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Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 05:56:28 2018 No.10078755 View Reply Original Report

Climate change is due to the axial precession that has a period of 26k years

Prove me wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 05:57:05 No.10078757 Report

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>>10078755
Don't have to you've offered no proof of your claims at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 05:58:38 No.10078760 Report

Quoted By: >>10078817

milankovitch cycles are one of many components of climate change. While they are an important forcing factor, current CO2 depositing into the atmosphere, and ocean changes, are more critical to ongoing climate shift.

Remember, CO2 residence time is over 100 years.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 06:46:18 No.10078817 Report

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>>10078760
>milankovitch cycles are one of many components of climate change
they ARE climate change

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 07:41:30 No.10078861 Report

Quoted By: >>10081744

>>10078817
No. It can be quite easily shown that the forcing due to the cycles is less than 0.5W/m2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 09:40:37 No.10078968 Report

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>>10078755
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztninkgZ0ws

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 09:41:53 No.10078971 Report

Quoted By: >>10083090

Climate change is due to OP's faggotry.

Prove me wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 09:45:46 No.10078977 Report

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>>10078755
Only things that exist can be due to something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 09:49:17 No.10078983 Report

Quoted By: >>10078996 >>10080714 >>10080860 >>10081331 >>10083409 >>10084887

Theres a PragerU video that explains all you need to know about climate change.

TL;DR it's made up bullcrap by liberals who hate capitalism and want to punish America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 10:00:19 No.10078994 Report

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>>10078755
Does change the most important fact, there is enough heat in air to power humanity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 10:02:26 No.10078996 Report

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>>10078983
>TL;DR it's made up bullcrap by liberals who hate capitalism and want to punish America.
That explains the video but what about Climate Change?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 11:17:06 No.10079098 Report

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>>10078755
I can't you're right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 18 Oct 2018 19:53:37 No.10079848 Report

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>>10078755
>Prove me wrong
Prove yourself right

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 01:05:08 No.10080293 Report

Quoted By: >>10084532

>>10078755
The only thing that changes due to precession is a different set of constellations for the seasons. That's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 01:31:19 No.10080313 Report

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>>10078755
prior climate change? yes

current climate change? no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 01:50:55 No.10080338 Report

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>>10078755
>Climate change is due to the axial precession that has a period of 26k years
...

Yes, and WHEN is the CURRENT period supposed to end?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 08:17:12 No.10080714 Report

Quoted By: >>10082810

>>10078983
>PragerU
PragerU videos are amazing. I love the way they always start out seeming like professional PR videos and slowly drift into batshit insanity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 11:13:22 No.10080860 Report

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>>10078983
>liberals who hate capitalism
Lrn2capitalism, corporate bootlicker

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 14:53:18 No.10081297 Report

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>>10078755
>Prove me wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 15:11:00 No.10081331 Report

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>>10078983
liberals LOVE capitalism. youre thinking leftists

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 15:21:43 No.10081345 Report

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>>10081297
>prove me wrong
>that's the wrong part of the OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 18:33:51 No.10081744 Report

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>>10078861
Thats quite a lot

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Oct 2018 18:58:54 No.10081793 Report

Quoted By: >>10082705 >>10083455

>>10078755
http://cdiac.ess-dive.lbl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.html
>In January 1998, the collaborative ice-drilling project between Russia, the United States, and France at the Russian Vostok station in East Antarctica yielded the deepest ice core ever recovered, reaching a depth of 3,623 m (Petit et al. 1997, 1999). Ice cores are unique with their entrapped air inclusions enabling direct records of past changes in atmospheric trace-gas composition

>According to Barnola et al. (1991) and Petit et al. (1999) these measurements indicate that, at the beginning of the deglaciations, the CO2 increase either was in phase or lagged by less than ~1000 years with respect to the Antarctic temperature, whereas it clearly lagged behind the temperature at the onset of the glaciations.

Axial precession is indeed why the climate changes, doesn't have to be over a period of 26k years though. This is why we have what are called "seasons", the earth is tilted...obviously because it precesses. Man induced climate change is a meme. Man has nowhere near the coherency and power of a churning planet and space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 04:30:46 No.10082705 Report

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>>10081793
>Axial precession is why we have seasons
Obviously you're an expert on climatology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 06:16:42 No.10082775 Report

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>>10078755
I would be more inclined to attribute it to Milankovich and long-frequency (centuries plus scale) solar cycle-cycles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 06:23:45 No.10082783 Report

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>>10078755
What causes this axial procession?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 06:30:09 No.10082787 Report

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>Correlation does not imply causation
>Except for global warming

They literally teach this in school

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 07:08:09 No.10082810 Report

Quoted By: >>10082812

>>10080714
They’re actually laugh out loud funny how down the rabbit hole they go sometimes. Sometimes I question whether I’m watching them or an Alex Jones video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 07:09:29 No.10082812 Report

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>>10082810
>tfw satanic furries are in The Shining and no one comments on this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 10:38:12 No.10082995 Report

Quoted By: >>10083003 >>10083071

>>10078755
>period of 26 000 years
>climate radically changes in 150
hmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 10:47:23 No.10083003 Report

Quoted By: >>10083040 >>10083062

>>10082995
>HUUR DUUR I'm a retard and I don't know anything about infinitesimal mouvements and its correlation with scales

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 11:51:04 No.10083040 Report

Quoted By: >>10083069 >>10083072

>>10083003
That isnt an answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 11:52:49 No.10083045 Report

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>>10082787
But the greenhouse effect is well documented and understood so its perfectly reasonable to assume causation

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 12:03:37 No.10083062 Report

Quoted By: >>10083069 >>10083072

>>10083003
>i have no argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 12:09:50 No.10083069 Report

Quoted By: >>10083073

>>10083040
if the circumference of earth's orbit around the sun was reduced by just 1% the planet would be unhabitable ?

we're talking here about a planet's rotation around the zenith, and 26000 years is not that much for its size

>>10083062
>I can pull up pictures of some dead faggot from the internet so I'm smart *tips fedora*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 12:11:10 No.10083071 Report

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>>10082995
in last 150y
co2 ppm: 290 --> 410
population: 1.5 bn --> 7.5 bn

sure, just a coincidence

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 12:11:58 No.10083072 Report

Quoted By: >>10083075 >>10086527

>>10083040
if the circumference of earth's orbit around the sun was reduced by just 1% the planet would be unhabitable.
we're talking here about a planet's rotation around the zenith, and 26 000 years is not that much for its size

>>10083062
>I can pull up pictures of some dead faggot from the internet with some text, I'm so smart *tips fedora*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 12:12:14 No.10083073 Report

Quoted By: >>10083076

>>10083069
>still no argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 12:13:33 No.10083075 Report

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>>10083072
>still no argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 12:14:06 No.10083076 Report

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>>10083073
I will bash ur fookin head mate, keep talking with that dirty mouth and i'll open ur cheek, cunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 12:32:51 No.10083090 Report

Quoted By: >>10083439

>>10078971
It's been more than 48 hours and no one has provided any proof to the opposite of this claim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 12:40:20 No.10083096 Report

Quoted By: >>10083109

>>10078755
global average temperature increase since the pre-industrial era correlates almost perfectly with anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions, we can tell it's anthropogenic because the isotopic composition of fossil fuels is different to pre-industrial carbon in the atmosphere
prove me and 90% of scientists wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 12:52:18 No.10083109 Report

Quoted By: >>10083117

>>10083096
>prove me and 90% of scientists wrong
>>>/r/eddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 12:54:58 No.10083110 Report

Quoted By:

>>10078755
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 13:00:28 No.10083117 Report

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>>10083109
>implying that's Reddit
gb29gag gaylord

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 13:54:44 No.10083188 Report

Quoted By: >>10083350 >>10083364

>>10082705
It's almost as if the earth having a tilted axis allows the sun to hit different parts of it at different parts of the year causing what are called "seasons".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 15:32:19 No.10083350 Report

Quoted By: >>10083395

>>10083188
That's because the axis is tilted and not because of precession you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 15:38:55 No.10083364 Report

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>>10083188
Precession changes the seasons flamamlamb

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:01:02 No.10083395 Report

Quoted By: >>10083405

>>10083350
>That's because the axis is tilted and not because of precession you retard
Cause and effect you brainlet. What caused the earth to be fucking tilted?
>>10083364
Are you saying we have 4 seasons per 26k years or because precession is the reason why the earth is tilted in the first place? The previous retard just threw me for a loop is all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:08:18 No.10083405 Report

Quoted By: >>10083450

>>10083395
>What caused the earth to be fucking tilted?
Not precession you brainlet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:15:09 No.10083409 Report

Quoted By: >>10083425

>>10078983
>PragerU

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:22:00 No.10083420 Report

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>>10078755

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:25:02 No.10083425 Report

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>>10083409
cannot believe he actually hit us with the prageru meme

>dae left-wing = hiter?
>dae israel's military occupation humane?
>dae hate islam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:33:43 No.10083439 Report

Quoted By: >>10084547

>>10083090
That's because his claim isn't wrong, it's just irrelevant. Milankovich cycles cause climate change, but not the current climate change. The fastest warming they produce is interglacial warming of 4-7 degrees C over thousands of years. That warming is an order of magnitude slower than current warming. Even more important is the fact that they are a predictable and observable *cycle*. We already had interglacial warming 12000 years ago. Now we are in the phase of the cycle where we would be slowly cooling back into a glacial period. But instead we are warming even more rapidly. So the insinuation that current global warming is caused by Milankovich cycles is doubly wrong. It has neither the power nor the correct timing to explain it. Luckily we already have a simple and well evidenced explanation: radiative forcing from the greenhouse gases man has emitted into the atmosphere.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:36:44 No.10083450 Report

Quoted By: >>10083464 >>10083483 >>10084890

>>10083405
Then what moron? Are you telling me that with the influence of the sun moon and other planets that the earth was at some point "straight and true"? Precession is the reason mass exists in the first place you fucking idiot. There is always precession and that is what causes the earth to be tilted to begin with,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:39:51 No.10083455 Report

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>>10081793
>deglaciation and atmospheric composition aren't always exactly in phase because nature isn't that simple in this case
>durr da global warmin ain't real
Your logic is pathetic. The surface temperature measurements and the causative lines of evidence, like the isotopic composition of atmospheric carbon, contradict your assertion that AGW isn't real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:43:37 No.10083464 Report

Quoted By: >>10083475

>>10083450
It's tilted because it was always tilted.
>Precession is the reason mass exists in the first place you fucking idiot
Yikes. I see, I'm dealing with a 'special' individual here.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:47:35 No.10083475 Report

Quoted By: >>10083495

>>10083464
>It's tilted because it was always tilted.
Oh well I guess the phenomena just explains itself, that's totally how science works.

Larmor precession, go google it you dunderhead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:48:53 No.10083483 Report

Quoted By: >>10083521

>>10083450
The theory is that earth's tilt was caused by a massive collision during its formation. Small changes in its tilt are due in part to its orbital obliquity but that doesn't explain how it became tilted in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 16:53:19 No.10083495 Report

Quoted By: >>10083521

>>10083475
>Google this
This indicates the poster has no explanation and is hoping that you will confuse yourself into thinking he does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 17:02:51 No.10083521 Report

Quoted By: >>10083534 >>10083663

>>10083483
The magnetic field was never perfect nor was the rotation of earth

>>10083495
More like, "No I'm not spoon feeding a retard that thinks circular reasoning is applicable when discussing cause and effect". Since there are so many retards like you though I'll simplify it. No precession=no vibration=no fucking matter. You get an inert nothing, good day sir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 17:07:53 No.10083534 Report

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>>10083521
>No precession=no vibration=no fucking matter.
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Oct 2018 18:22:03 No.10083663 Report

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>>10083521
>The magnetic field was never perfect nor was the rotation of earth
How does this respond to what you're replying to?

>circular reasoning
What circular reasoning?

>No precession=no vibration=no fucking matter.
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 01:19:25 No.10084466 Report

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>>10078755
Climate change causes the axial precession.
Climate change causes everything.
Science is so much easier now that climate change was discovered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 02:08:34 No.10084532 Report

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>>10080293
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 02:22:39 No.10084547 Report

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>>10083439
/thread

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Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 02:29:57 No.10084554 Report

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>>10078755
>Prove me wrong

>write a paper
>contact ExxonMobil, Shell or BP for sponsoring to support its findings
>obtain PhD with thesis
>???
>PROFIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 02:36:05 No.10084560 Report

Quoted By: >>10084593

>>10078755
Nope it is because of rich people and business so we have to carbon tax everyone to fund the global government that will manage the means of production to keep the carbon emissions down.

Comrade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 03:06:48 No.10084593 Report

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>>10084560
>carbon tax everyone
If you pollute, you pay.
Making non-polluters pay for your shitting is communism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 03:39:45 No.10084648 Report

Quoted By: >>10084657

>>10078755
You are write but the earth's wobble has changed drastically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 03:45:06 No.10084657 Report

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>>10084648
That's read.

El Arcón

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El Arcón Sun 21 Oct 2018 03:50:54 No.10084664 Report

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Do you see how you can regain the azimuthal freedom lost at the pole if you continue lines of constant azimuth through the pole to terminate on a circle?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 07:00:01 No.10084887 Report

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>>10078983
>PragerU

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Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 07:03:12 No.10084890 Report

Quoted By: >>10085656

>>10083450
>Precession is the reason mass exists in the first place you fucking idiot.
so are your parents brother and sister or uncle and niece?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 17:50:30 No.10085656 Report

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>>10084890
Well certainly you have the answers. Give me a reason why mass exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 18:05:53 No.10085687 Report

Quoted By: >>10085693

>>10078755
I wish /b/ shit was still bannable on other boards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 18:08:38 No.10085693 Report

Quoted By: >>10085710

>>10085687
Seething liberal detected. Suck my farts

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 18:18:01 No.10085710 Report

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>>10085693
Yeah, I really dislike shitposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Oct 2018 18:18:42 No.10085713 Report

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I have everyone in this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 01:45:24 No.10086489 Report

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Climate change is a CIA hoax meant to limit industrialization and war production in China and other countries while we go full steam ahead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Oct 2018 02:07:12 No.10086527 Report

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>>10083072
>if the circumference of earth's orbit around the sun was reduced by just 1% the planet would be unhabitable.
That's just wrong, though. For starters, the Earth's orbit is slightly elliptical, and if the closest point to the Sun was taken as the radius of the new orbit the circumference would be more than 3% less than the current circumference.

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