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STEPHEN WOLFRAM: " THE 2ND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS IS ENCRYPTED"

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 01:52:28 2020 No.11596902 View Reply Original Report

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begins talking at linked time on this phenomena at 0hr, 55min :
https://youtu.be/acUf7PuGWXA?t=3296

absolute timestamp for specific quote "the system is reverisble, but you would need to be a crypto-analyst to reverse it"

https://youtu.be/acUf7PuGWXA?t=3330

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 02:34:32 No.11597017 Report

Quoted By: >>11597172 >>11605295

What's the difference between a schizo and a pseud?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 02:47:27 No.11597049 Report

Quoted By: >>11598089 >>11602660

>takes piece of paper
>writes secret message
>burn the paper
>paper is now encrypted
that part is true

>you can reverse time by by simply decrypting it
doesn't decryption typically requires some sort of key or code?
is there some method of decryption that doesn't require the passcode? I mean there's brute forcing it, but you can't brute force ashes of paper because the process of brute forcing changes it. It's like brute forcing phone that erases itself after 5 bad guesses. You CAN do this by making infinite copies of the data on the phone. You can't make infinite copies of a pile of ashes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 02:53:09 No.11597064 Report

Quoted By: >>11597172

>>11596902
What the fuck is this schitz going on about

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 03:36:34 No.11597172 Report

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>>11597017
>What's the difference between a schizo and a pseud?
>>11597064
>What the fuck is this schitz going on about

he owns wolfram alpha and mathematica. He started studying physics at 12 and got a PHD at 20 or 21. So he's prob not schizo or psuedo , but rather a legito.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 03:38:56 No.11597178 Report

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>>11597172
>he owns wolfram alpha and mathematica.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 08:55:48 No.11597760 Report

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>>11597178
honestly what’s the big deal with wolfram alpha? it’s just symbolab but orange

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 09:12:29 No.11597781 Report

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>>11597178
>linking to that site unironically

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 09:24:44 No.11597799 Report

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>>11597178
The site is satire, mate

except that people who write that garbage half-believe what they write
It is like /lit/ talking about philosophy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 10:01:16 No.11597844 Report

Quoted By: >>11602531

>>11597178
>and for that we are thankful. Science works.

This is some reddit tier garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:17:27 No.11598043 Report

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>>11596902
is that Gorbachev?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 12:41:48 No.11598089 Report

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>>11597049
if you believe time can be reversed if you know all the hidden variables, then the encryption is analogous to a 1-time pad. 1-time pads can't be brute forced. you wouldn't know if you recovered the plaintext or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 13:36:45 No.11598205 Report

Quoted By: >>11602531

>>11597178
the term "pseudoscience" is one of the best words halfwits and redditors out themselves with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 13:48:27 No.11598229 Report

Quoted By: >>11598646 >>11601600 >>11602665

>>11597172
child prodigys turn into schizos and often dont do any meaningful work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 13:54:36 No.11598246 Report

Quoted By: >>11598439 >>11605276

>>11596902
I took a look and in neither of these does he sound like a schizo. He implies that the process of entropy does not lose information but rather "encrypts" it by making it inaccessible to simple organisms like us, which is absolutely correct
I don't get the outrage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 15:24:00 No.11598439 Report

Quoted By: >>11598622

>>11598246
the outage is probably a combination of:
>anons like OP who only heard the buzzwords and have no idea what he actually meant, so begin to spout incorrectly paraphrased shit
>other anons who didn't watch the video and are just replying to retards in the thread
>anons realizing that the entire idea is tautological and provides no actual insight despite the hype
>bandwagoning newfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 16:22:23 No.11598622 Report

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>>11598439
>anons like OP who only heard the buzzwords and have no idea what he actually meant
dude ur projecting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 16:26:45 No.11598646 Report

Quoted By: >>11599862

>>11598229
>child prodigys turn into schizos and often dont do any meaningful work.
* laughs in terry tao. *

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Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 22:21:45 No.11599850 Report

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>>11596902
Cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 22:24:21 No.11599862 Report

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>>11598646
You literally validated his point

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 22:26:15 No.11599869 Report

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Thermodynamics literally deletes information this guy is a tool

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 22:39:16 No.11599911 Report

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>>11596902
>https://youtu.be/acUf7PuGWXA?t=3330
>gives maxwell's demon example
>said thought experiment has been already explained and has nothing to do with cryptography

This crank is losing it, big time. He's starting to connect stuff just because, there is no coherence on his arguments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 22:41:15 No.11599916 Report

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>>11597172
go to bed stephen, you are drunk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Apr 2020 22:43:23 No.11599926 Report

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>watch video
>he's clearly using cryptology as an analogy

oh come on guys

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 06:31:45 No.11601242 Report

Quoted By: >>11610570

>>11596902
>"the system is reverisble, but you would need to be a crypto-analyst to reverse it"
le fuck wtf wolfram wat happen to you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 08:19:23 No.11601455 Report

Quoted By: >>11602531

>>11597178
that's a pretty shit and hostile article. It seems just like an excuse to diss racist scientists.
>racism is bad, therefore studying racial differences is pseudoscience
Okay

The others are about psycholenesis and the like. Well I'd say investigating that is more science that discussing the many-worlds interpretation to no end

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 08:49:10 No.11601541 Report

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Oh no he caught the novel WOLFVID-20

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 09:22:33 No.11601600 Report

Quoted By: >>11602087

>>11598229
Cries in Eduard Einstein

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 09:33:11 No.11601621 Report

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He's on the right track now. When people said not to take A New Kind of Science too literally, I knew it was the way forward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 13:46:43 No.11602087 Report

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>>11601600
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 14:12:08 No.11602154 Report

Quoted By: >>11602531

>>11597178
>rationalwiki
Into the trash, all ratoinalwiki posters need to be permanently banned. Do your fucking job jannies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 14:35:56 No.11602210 Report

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I'm going to dedicate all my career as a physicist to try to figure out how this encryption he speaks about works. If he's wrong, I'll have wasted decades of my life working on something that doesn't make any sense. If he's right, I'll be remembered as one of history's greatest physicists. Worth the shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 14:49:24 No.11602242 Report

Quoted By: >>11602531

>>11597781
That they don't consider racism to be rational is all you need to know about that place. There's a reason why that list exists.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:18:42 No.11602531 Report

Quoted By: >>11609340

>>11597781
>>11597799
>>11597844
>>11598205
>>11601455
>>11602154
>>11602242
Triggered /pol/tards and schizos

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:24:33 No.11602554 Report

Quoted By: >>11602671 >>11603251 >>11607090

>>11597781
>Eugenics and Nazi racial theories
>Pseudoscience

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:56:05 No.11602660 Report

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>>11597049
>>is there some method of decryption that doesn't require the passcode?
Without breaking the cipher, yeah.

Note also you can encrypt something without having a key to decrypt it. Without _anybody_ having a key to decrypt it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 16:58:01 No.11602665 Report

Quoted By: >>11602709

>>11598229
>>11597178
Wolfram has been on about this stuff for decades. This isn't a case of an old guy going crazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 17:00:37 No.11602671 Report

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>>11602554
obviously this just goes to show that atheists are the real nazis, or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 17:11:57 No.11602709 Report

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>>11602665
Yeah he was always a pseud.

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Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 20:11:26 No.11603251 Report

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>>11602554
this might be the biggest tweet fail. Dawkins is too autistic to realize eugenics is already inherent in capitalism. Hence high iq is rewarded w/ more money while low iq is rewarded w/ less money. Richard Dawkins is a brainlet for thinking eugenics looks like a brap-barn when in reality it is the system of capitalism. That is why USA is better than all nations as we have most advanced eugenics in which other countries are jealous and become haters. Of course Dawkins is too autistic to understand. almost everyone inherently knows capitalism has elements of eugenics, except is conducted in a moral way and is WAY MORE EFFECTIVE than a government eugenics program. Eugenics led by the people, for the people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 20:25:36 No.11603305 Report

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>>11603251
>Dawkins is too autistic to realize eugenics is already inherent in capitalism.
Where in the tweet is that stated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Apr 2020 20:31:11 No.11603323 Report

Quoted By: >>11608526

>>11603251
>this might be the biggest tweet fail. Dawkins is too autistic to realize eugenics is already inherent in capitalism. Hence high iq is rewarded w/ more money while low iq is rewarded w/ less money.
The only currency nature cares about is reproductive success, and currently high IQ is a big drag.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 09:58:38 No.11605211 Report

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>>11597781
Watson was right though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 10:08:30 No.11605225 Report

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>>11597172
>people can't turn into schizos when they get older

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 10:35:15 No.11605276 Report

Quoted By: >>11605279

>>11598246
>process of entropy
entropy isn't a process.
>inaccessible to simple organisms like us
an advanced alien civilisation couldn't observe the microstate of an arbitrary system either. it's just physically not possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 10:37:06 No.11605279 Report

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>>11605276
I'm sure they could spot the microstate of your penis though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 10:41:02 No.11605295 Report

Quoted By:

>>11597017
One believes in woo while the other fabricates it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 10:43:02 No.11605303 Report

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>>11603251
>high iq is rewarded w/ more money while low iq is rewarded w/ less money
High IQ is associated with less reproduction while low IQ individuals usually have a lot of children
Capitalism is literally eugenics in the direction of idiocracy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 18:31:16 No.11606402 Report

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>>11603251
>inherent in capitalism
Nope
It's inherent in anarcho capitalism but as soon as you have welfare in any shape or form it's not inherent in a capitalist system. Just refer to the birthrates of poorly educated and often incestuous immigrants in europe compared to the native population or birthrates in the slums of America.

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Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 23:10:04 No.11607090 Report

Quoted By: >>11608535

>>11602554
Eugenics is absolutely necessary for humanity to have a bright future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 23:16:41 No.11607097 Report

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>>11597178
Never link to this website again. Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 Apr 2020 23:41:21 No.11607179 Report

Quoted By: >>11610488 >>11610611

>>11603251

Asians have zero intellectual depth. They literally just do the bare minimum to get the right answer and move on to the next one. The price they pay of course is that they can't invent anything because they are incapable of seeing the bigger picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 04:26:46 No.11607865 Report

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Ummmm, he's not wrong...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 09:25:45 No.11608526 Report

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>>11603323
>and currently high IQ is a big drag.
Only if you consider r to be the only type of successful reproduction strategy where you need hundreds of offspring directly competing and killing each other to survive very short lifespans instead of K reproducers who may have smaller litters and less offspring, but they tend to be stronger and smarter with better collaborative abilities to dominate their environment subtly instead of covering every square inch of the environment with their shit and other scent markers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 09:35:17 No.11608535 Report

Quoted By: >>11608656

>>11607090
Define bright brainsplat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 10:49:34 No.11608656 Report

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>>11608535
enlightened

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 11:00:16 No.11608680 Report

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>>11596902
wolfram you went too far. entropy is structureless by definition.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 15:37:16 No.11609340 Report

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>>11602531

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Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 21:46:47 No.11610488 Report

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>>11607179
>Asians have zero intellectual depth.....
dude this is just an off-topic racist shitpost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 22:14:10 No.11610570 Report

Quoted By: >>11610744

>>11601242
Has anyone on 4chan ever posted a woman's face and typed out something intelligent at the same time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 22:34:20 No.11610611 Report

Quoted By: >>11610685

>>11607179
Asians on average earn very high grades because most of them are annoyingly opppurtunistic. Thus, if you get the false impression that all these Asians are actually smart, then you'll be disappointed. The actual percentage of smart Asians will normally give more care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 23:03:39 No.11610685 Report

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>>11610611
Asians are intelligent, the only problem is they need more social development. There's a toxic amount of academic competitiveness, unnecessarily so, in Asia, to the point where their kids are getting driven to hate themselves and math/science. Once they start viewing math/science as more of a passion pursuit instead of trying to outplay each other, that's when you realize they're unironically one of the most intelligent groups of people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 Apr 2020 23:17:57 No.11610744 Report

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>>11610570
facial emotions tend to be unintelligent in humans. they use mans faces for authority. so bad so sad i cry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Apr 2020 03:37:18 No.11611427 Report

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>>11597172
Oof. Is this bait?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Apr 2020 07:50:07 No.11611886 Report

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>>11596902
I doubt it's easy to reset molecules, maybe if you purposefully move them before, you can easier move them back, but...

Yes... Cryptoanalysts are important.

And when it comes to eather, it's good to remember it can also be moving with us, therefore being static.

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