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Is Gary right? Do sufficiently advanced civilizations get smaller, not bigger?

Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 10:17:24 2022 No.14426714 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>14426725 >>14426740 >>14427550 >>14428121 >>14428937 >>14428960

https://youtu.be/zJgO4YhwWcQ

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 10:24:32 No.14426725 Report

Quoted By: >>14426727 >>14428850

>>14426714
The only Gary /sci/ cares about discovered the theory of everything. Fuck off with your popsci youtoober crap

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 10:25:37 No.14426727 Report

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>>14426725
wait...

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 10:32:28 No.14426740 Report

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>>14426714

And I immediately regret making this...

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 10:34:28 No.14426742 Report

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Oh well, yolo

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 17:08:05 No.14427550 Report

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>>14426714
If one judges by how societies work, it seems we emulate the reproduction of plants or fungi, with the hole spore or seed traveling along the wind to settle or colonize and grow with nourishment aspect.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 20:24:51 No.14428121 Report

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>>14426714
People are afraid of earth killers because every planet has it's version of the jews, and the moment we found out about a neighboring life bearing planet the jews would try to preemptively nuke it so every planet tries to hide itself even though literally every star in the sky (almost) has an earth like planet.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 21:48:10 No.14428389 Report

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>>14428121
>Thinks that sufficiently advanced civilizations haven't solved the Jew problem

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 23:10:40 No.14428719 Report

Quoted By: >>14428723 >>14428994

Fighting over finite scraps is for plebs. Once we upload (and I see no reason why we wouldn't), then the concept of scarcity will be virtually meaningless. Exponential growth is a derivative of self replicating organisms. Why happens when self replication is no longer required? In an infinite and eternal universe, fortification within impenetrable simulations becomes possible. The only question is: would you get bored of infinite paradise?

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 23:12:01 No.14428723 Report

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>>14428719
>Why

What

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 23:23:12 No.14428754 Report

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The thalamus is the seat of consciousness. *Almost* any other part of the brain can be damaged without destroying consciousness other than that. Buried the deepest in the brain to give most protection. Wired to every other sensory organ. And the thalamus is fundamentally jthe generator of a feeling "good" and "bad". That is what consciousness fundamentally is. A feeling. Good or bad. All attempts for successful upload must focus there. Solve that and we can live forever.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Apr 2022 23:25:31 No.14428758 Report

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What even is "good" "bad". I don't know. It's the only sensory experience that is difficult for me to quantify. Perhaps it is emergent from neuralnet path finding. "Good path" "bad path".

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:04:16 No.14428850 Report

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>>14426725
>cares about

Thanks Anon. I will turn away from the popsci youtoober crap. This video was dumb. My apologies.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:09:16 No.14428864 Report

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The Dark Forest is a 2008 science fiction novel by the Chinese writer Liu Cixin.

there are 2 types of aliens.. quiet ones and dead ones..

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:15:11 No.14428881 Report

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>>14428864
>there are 2 types of aliens.. quiet ones and dead ones..

I agree that we should error on the side of caution when it comes to projecting the location of our home world....

... even in a Universe with infinite resources, suffiently advanced aliens but just destroy stuff for fun.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:30:49 No.14428937 Report

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>>14426714
Who the fuck is this pussy?

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:39:58 No.14428960 Report

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>>14426714
Not if they possess the Faustian spirit.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:42:40 No.14428965 Report

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>>14428864
The biggest problem with the Dark Forest theory is that building an assload of giant space telescopes capable of doing spectrographic analysis on planets on the other side of the galaxy, is in all likely hood much, much easier than building interstellar relativistic weapons. Hiding from such a civilization is not really an option. So more like open grass plain than dark forest.

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:43:41 No.14428971 Report

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>>14428960
>Not if they possess the Faustian spirit.

Yes, but I guess what I'm wondering is... wouldn't it make more sense to do that in simulation? Why go through all the effort of colonizing the Universe when you can just simulate colonization...

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:44:56 No.14428975 Report

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>>14428850
You do you Gary, I didn't realise it was actually you at first as I just saw a blue alien. You're a legend!

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:46:24 No.14428979 Report

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>>14428965
>building an assload of giant space telescopes capable of doing spectrographic analysis on planets on the other side of the galaxy, is in all likely hood much, much easier than building interstellar relativistic weapons

Good point... neuralnet could scan billions of worlds at a time... any sufficiently advanced civilization would optimize threat and resource detection...

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:47:38 No.14428985 Report

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>>14428975
>You're a legend!

At at the risk of sounding cringe or corny...

Thank you Anon :-)

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:49:37 No.14428994 Report

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>>14428719
>would you get bored of infinite paradise?
See Hamlet
>Act IV Scene IV
...What is a man,
If his chief good and market of his time
Be but to sleep and feed? a beast, no more...
Witness this army of such mass and charge
Led by a delicate and tender prince,
Whose spirit with divine ambition puff'd
Makes mouths at the invisible event,
Exposing what is mortal and unsure
To all that fortune, death and danger dare,
Even for an egg-shell. Rightly to be great
Is not to stir without great argument,
But greatly to find quarrel in a straw
When honour's at the stake...
...I see
The imminent death of twenty thousand men,
That, for a fantasy and trick of fame,
Go to their graves like beds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=easWqy08wr8

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Anonymous Tue 26 Apr 2022 00:52:51 No.14429001 Report

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>>14428971
Why would a rational argument, even if rationally correct, circumvent a passion or drive? Columbus was rationally wrong, his figues for the circumfrance of the Earth were demonstrably wrong within the knowledge of the time, but a passion isn't amenable to rational argument and into the boat he set off for Japan.

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