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Anonymous Sat 23 Apr 17:17:03 2022 No.14421590 View Reply Original Report

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Is Julia worth learning as a general tool for math?
Or should I stick to Python+Scipy,Numpy and friends?
From a first impression Julia looks nice but it also seems like most useful libraries are just wrappers around the common established Python libs.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Apr 2022 17:22:34 No.14421607 Report

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>>14421590
Lol Julia

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Anonymous Sat 23 Apr 2022 17:27:31 No.14421621 Report

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just stick with whatever you know.
btw code this

$\sum_{n=0}^{10^{1000}} n^{2}$

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Anonymous Sat 23 Apr 2022 18:05:17 No.14421701 Report

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>>14421590
I like it. I prefer it Python/R and I've been moving over my data science tooling into Julia. Now I only use R for specialized econometric libraries and Python for some ML things.
>Is Julia worth learning as a general tool for math?
I think so, but don't think it's going to land you a job. If you have the freedom to chose your tooling and you need to write performant scripts, such as simulations or some kind of custom numerical method, then it's likely a good choice. Very nice balance of development efficiency to performance.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Apr 2022 18:10:27 No.14421720 Report

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Julia is a compiled language, Python and R are interpreted languages. They are complementary if you ever need to run some bits of your code a bit faster.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Apr 2022 19:51:51 No.14421922 Report

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>>14421590
For personal projects and what not, I find it much nicer to use than python, and it’s a no-brainer over matlab unless you need to use simulink. But in terms of how many companies use it, it’ll probably take a bit of time for it to catch up to the more established languages.

Either way, though, it’s not particularly hard to learn because you said it yourself, many of its libraries are derived from other languages anyhow. So I think it’s worth looking at

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Anonymous Sat 23 Apr 2022 22:41:39 No.14422329 Report

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>>14421590
don't fall into the esolang trap. programming languages aren't like maths, they are tools that need to be maintained. don't reinvent the wheel. the programming train left a while ago.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Apr 2022 22:43:27 No.14422334 Report

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>>14422329
Bruh I just want to do math.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Apr 2022 23:00:49 No.14422385 Report

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>>14422334
python if you're a brainlet, c++ if you're smart and don't mind learning the basics

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 00:11:21 No.14422561 Report

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>>14421590
fortran

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 00:42:26 No.14422658 Report

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>>14421590
just learn c++

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 01:08:25 No.14422742 Report

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>indices starting at 1
dropped

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 02:30:51 No.14423003 Report

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>>14421621
10^1000 * (10^1000 + 1) * (10^1000 + 2) / 6

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 02:32:16 No.14423009 Report

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>>14421590
You should learn Julia so as to weed yourself out of possibly being my competition thanks.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:26:37 No.14423504 Report

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any good tutorials on solving systems of pdes with julia?

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 07:57:44 No.14423535 Report

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>>14422385
worst picks ever

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 08:07:36 No.14423548 Report

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>>14423535
those are the industry standards, they're also the easiest to into and provide the greatest work opportunities for computational science.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 12:06:21 No.14423844 Report

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>>14423003
Wrong

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 13:35:30 No.14424019 Report

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>>14421590
Python and Rust for when you need faster modules
but actually Python is going to land you a job, Julia not. Python is basically a souped-up set of wrapper libraries for faster C modules anyways. numpy is plenty fast, I've only ever gotten marginally faster results with Rust (my go-to compiler language), and JAX can serve all your heavy number crunching needs.
Julia is fine and I've never heard bad things, but it's just not as useful in the "real world" as python.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 14:40:06 No.14424232 Report

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>>14422742
Did you drop Fortran too?

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:17:51 No.14424751 Report

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>>14421590
If you already know Python, stick with that. Generally I recommend becoming a complete master in one of these languages (Python, R, Julia, Matlab, C++ etc.) and dabbling in the others.

Once you know one, you pretty much know the rest. Also, have you taken a formal series of programming classes? I highly recommend it even if you find it boring. I got a minor in comp sci even though I find most of the comp sci problems boring just because the courses were very rigorous about structures of programs, comments, error checking, etc. These are all really good habits to have that many scientific/math programmers lack.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 18:56:22 No.14424858 Report

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>>14424751
Yes, programmers that have been trained on bootcamps lack the mathematical background and formal training to fully understand and analyze algorithms. Codemonkey is cliche, but that is the best characterization. And because they don't use them in their work, they think formal training is useless. /g/ is full of these guys.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 19:42:15 No.14424958 Report

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>>14421590
Yes. I've worked with it and it's the superior tool for math over Python.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 20:03:31 No.14425016 Report

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>>14423504
Which methods which sorts of systems?
I can point you to a library one of my masters profs wrote that uses fvm.
It has a nice interface but its kinda shittily documented

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Anonymous Sun 24 Apr 2022 23:18:20 No.14425535 Report

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>>14421590
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