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Why are psychopaths born but not made

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 00:12:52 2021 No.13967962 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13967987 >>13969114 >>13969164 >>13969166 >>13969563 >>13970722 >>13970898 >>13972644

Why are psychopaths created in the womb and not created from their upbringing, I never understood that. And there is a difference between psychopath and sociopath plus anti social as well as oppositional defiant disorder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:23:02 No.13967987 Report

Quoted By: >>13967991

>>13967962
Sociopaths are the ones that are made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 00:24:40 No.13967991 Report

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>>13967987
Okay. Why are psychopaths born though? Why are they genetically a psychopath, how are people born with schizophrenia and autism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 01:27:25 No.13968136 Report

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>>13967991
It's not any different than any other genetic trait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 08:48:59 No.13969101 Report

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In most cases psychopathy is genetic, i.e. people being born without a Y chromosome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 08:58:11 No.13969114 Report

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>>13967962
I don't think that's right. of course, I will never want to get diagnosed, but I am 100% sure I'm a psychopath and this happened after my complete change of personality after puberty I was never like this before that period, maybe trauma could lead to psychopathy too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 09:12:45 No.13969132 Report

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A psychiatrist I know personally defends that psychopaths can be a product of interactions (or lack thereof) during the first months of life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 09:22:51 No.13969144 Report

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The important thing to remember about all people classified as mentally ill is that "mental illness" is synonymous with "brain damage". Any mentally ill person is just another flavor of downie, they can all be easily outwitted because they are fundamentally dumb. You can give them a scary name like something out of a horror movie if you want to frighten yourself, otherwise you can just refer to them as retards.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 09:31:18 No.13969164 Report

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>>13967962
Both.
to give you the short answer, everything related to behavior is a product of genetics, epigenetics and life experiences, and it's very hard to change any of it. people think that if something isn't genetic then it can be changed but that's wrong especially past adolescence.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 09:32:06 No.13969166 Report

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>>13967962
>Why are psychopaths created in the womb and not created from their upbringing
untrue conjecture

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:53:40 No.13969529 Report

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>>13969114
There are other mental issues, like schizophrenia, that are genetic but don't manifest until later in life. Think about what you're saying, it's like saying beards aren't genetic because you're not born with them.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 12:57:55 No.13969547 Report

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>>13969132
Yeah I believe it, if you beat a dog while it's a puppy it'll react violently or unpredictably later in life, don't see why that'd be different for a human

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 13:04:21 No.13969563 Report

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>>13967962
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_ponerology
This book says sociopaths have legit brain damage easy to measure on MRI or autopsy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 13:17:02 No.13969589 Report

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>>13969529
well in this case this argument doesn't work cuz its like schrodingers cat. either you developed it through trauma or you were born with it and got clear symptoms later

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 13:33:54 No.13969645 Report

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>>13969589
Just read the wikipedia page.

>Genetically informed studies of the personality characteristics typical of individuals with psychopathy have found moderate genetic (as well as non-genetic) influences. On the PPI, fearless dominance and impulsive antisociality were similarly influenced by genetic factors and uncorrelated with each other. Genetic factors may generally influence the development of psychopathy while environmental factors affect the specific expression of the traits that predominate. A study on a large group of children found more than 60% heritability for "callous-unemotional traits" and that conduct problems among children with these traits had a higher heritability than among children without these traits

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 17:00:47 No.13970289 Report

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>>13969645
well alright, i would argue about legitimacy but I am no biologist and it doesn't matter. have a good day mate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 19:08:54 No.13970722 Report

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>>13967962
because every parent of a murderer refuses to admit how they mistreated them

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 19:27:53 No.13970821 Report

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>>13970722
know one gives a shit about murder hobos. The real danger is a high iq psycho who sits in the top 1%

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 19:33:49 No.13970842 Report

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>>13969589
>well in this case this argument doesn't work cuz its like schrodingers cat. either you developed it through trauma or you were born with it and got clear symptoms later
If you don't understand what you're talking about it makes your analogy sound really fucking stupid
>>13970289
>well alright, i would argue about legitimacy but I am no biologist and it doesn't matter.
You feel the urge to keep arguing regardless of your own intuitions and information provided to you? Sounds more like sociopath than psychopath to me. Are you really assuming you're always right even if you cant make an argument? or maybe you are just heavily autistic and unable to communicate effectively.

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Anonymous Thu 16 Dec 2021 19:50:49 No.13970898 Report

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>>13967962
genetics is a convenient cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Dec 2021 05:17:40 No.13972644 Report

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>>13967962
"True" psychopathy, or whatever you want to call it, is a physiological phenomenon in the structure and function of the brain that seems to arise from a combination of genetic factors.
Honestly your question is kind of confusing, this is like asking why people are born with brown hair.

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