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Anonymous Tue 29 Jun 21:12:02 2021 No.13339704 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13339769 >>13339806 >>13339835

So what do you think of the notion that the mind/consciousness transcends a purely physicalist framework? What do you think of the classical arguments of for the immateriality of the mind/soul? (I could list some if you like.)

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Anonymous Tue 29 Jun 2021 21:35:17 No.13339769 Report

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>>13339704
Everybody agrees that the qualitative aspect of the mind is immaterial. And on that note everybody believes in God, they just argue over the definitions. An Atheist might argue that some quantum state before the big bang is God, while for others it is a bearded sky-man.

This is important to remember in such discussions. There is a lot of common ground with a few major disagreements.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Jun 2021 21:41:21 No.13339795 Report

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>>13339769
>Everybody
False

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Anonymous Tue 29 Jun 2021 21:43:56 No.13339806 Report

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>>13339704
>transcends a purely physicalist framework
it "transcends" our current understanding of physics, if the brain operates on a quantum level it's brings together a lot of spirutually crap and science which makes muh bioloigical neural net software/hardware midwits seeth for some reason. At the end of the day they don't want to admit that physics is wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YdNg2rEBW0

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Anonymous Tue 29 Jun 2021 21:46:56 No.13339821 Report

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>>13339806
Tl;dw

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Anonymous Tue 29 Jun 2021 21:47:07 No.13339823 Report

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>>13339795
I guess people who got molested by priests like Derpnett might not.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Jun 2021 21:50:17 No.13339835 Report

Quoted By: >>13339849 >>13339856

>>13339704
This is far simpler than people make it out to be.

If you accept that the fundamental operation of the universe is quantum in nature, then minds, which are part of said universe, must also be quantum in nature.

To say that minds are not quantum phenomena is the dualism, not the other way around as many seem to imply.

Miss me with all of your "quantum scale vs. classical scale" bullshit, literally doesn't matter.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Jun 2021 21:52:16 No.13339849 Report

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>>13339835
This kills the physicalistcuck

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Anonymous Tue 29 Jun 2021 21:54:07 No.13339856 Report

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>>13339835
But how exactly does quantum mechanics explain consciosness, if that is what you are saying?

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