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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 03:53:23 2021 No.13317168 View Reply Original Report

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how do you racists IQ posters explain the Flynn effect???!!!!!!!!!?????

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 03:58:55 No.13317188 Report

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>>13317168
IQ increases biggly with child nutrition
Average standard of living has increased biggly in the worst parts of the world
Therefore the overall average IQ increased biggly
However IQ differences still remain when controlling for standard of living

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:07:59 No.13317218 Report

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>>13317168
>Flynn effect
Rise in IQ observed in 20th century due to better nutrition and healthcare.

After the west reach peak nutrition.
The Flynn effect ceased stopped.

In 21th century the Flynn effect reversed, and younger generations are becoming dumber. Mainly:

#1 Low IQ immigration from 3rd world (Mexico, Middle East, India, Africa) into the 1st world, bringing the averages down.

#2 Zoomer addiction to internet, videogames and porn (associated to ADHD and shorter attention-span)

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 04:09:34 No.13317223 Report

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>Flynn effect
Rise in IQ observed in 20th century due to better nutrition and healthcare.

After the west reach peak nutrition.
The Flynn effect ceased /stopped.

In 21th century the Flynn effect reversed, and younger generations are becoming dumber. Mainly:

#1 Low IQ immigration from 3rd world (Mexico, Middle East, India, Africa) into the 1st world, bringing the averages down.

#2 Zoomer addiction to internet, videogames and porn (associated to ADHD and shorter attention-span)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 10:35:02 No.13318133 Report

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>>13317168
By quoting James Flynn? idk lol

>“The magnitude of white/ black IQ differences on Wechsler subtests at any given time is correlated with the g loadings of the subtests; the magnitude of IQ gains over time on subtests is not usually so correlated; the causes of the two phenomena are not the same.”
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/259097870_The_Flynn_Effect_and_Flynn%27s_paradox

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 11:33:40 No.13318302 Report

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>>13317168
Flynn effect is hollow for g.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 11:44:14 No.13318326 Report

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>>13317168
the psychologists who write IQ tests have steadily gotten stupider over the years, because over the years all the people with high g have figured out that psychology is a pseudoscience

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 11:52:59 No.13318349 Report

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>>13317168
Literally doesn't matter. It has been shown that brain size has been steadily decreasing in the last 10,000 years. This makes sense if you think about it; there are way less selection pressures for IQ in society as compared to being out in the wild. Over time, you can expect our civilization to dismantle; it's ironic that a lot of people think the future will me mars and whatnot. The future is going to be like the past 20,000 years ago. And then selection pressures will once again exist and civilization will develop again, and so forth in an infinite loop until we go extinct in some event.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 11:58:40 No.13318361 Report

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>>13317223
>After the west reach peak nutrition.
>The Flynn effect ceased /stopped.
it hasnt, on the contrary, weston price still isnt the standard for nutrition

the average iq could be 140 if meat and dairy was the standard

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 12:03:18 No.13318370 Report

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>>13317168
IQ statistics on populations are useless as IQ is metered by genetic lineage. You would have to measure the change from parent to child over dozens of generations and also account for the differing combination of parents each generation. A shift in one way in a given population only shows a general development trend in the structure of society itself.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 13:24:06 No.13318562 Report

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>>13318133
>By quoting James Flynn? idk lol
kek

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 13:38:52 No.13318584 Report

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>>13317168
i love how psychometricians use intelligence and iq interchangeably when the only thing that validates their entire theory is just some slight correlations for salary and even slighter correlations between abilities for the g factor (if these exist at all lol, show me one study that shows that cognitive proficiency in mathematics or music or language or whatever correlates with every other cognitive task).
the only valid explanation and quantification of intelligence would be a physiological and neurological one. this one would achieve the task of "predicting outcome" (which psychometricians are obsessed with) a lot better

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 16:19:55 No.13319043 Report

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gondola

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gondola Thu 24 Jun 2021 16:21:11 No.13319047 Report

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 16:51:48 No.13319147 Report

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>>13317168
better education
less lead in the soil
term coined before mass hispanic migration

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 17:03:15 No.13319187 Report

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>>13317168
assortive mating

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 17:06:48 No.13319195 Report

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>>13318302
why don't we just test g instead of IQ then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 17:12:27 No.13319211 Report

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Who gives a shit about IQ? Common sense and working hard is more important. Never seen anybody but MENSA wannabes or race obsessed 4channers place any stock in it.

gondola

gondola Thu 24 Jun 2021 17:16:09 No.13319226 Report

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>>13319211
Yes but you if you're smarter waste less time for the same result and understand things faster.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 17:38:46 No.13319288 Report

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>>13318584
cope harder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSXYhnrwjQE

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 17:48:39 No.13319321 Report

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>>13319226
ok but what does that have to do with IQ?

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 18:14:06 No.13319412 Report

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>>13318584
>and even slighter correlations between abilities for the g factor
heh

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 18:15:58 No.13319417 Report

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>>13319211
>appealing to popularity to cope with low IQ
ngmi

gondola

gondola Thu 24 Jun 2021 18:25:58 No.13319460 Report

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>>13319321
IQ is about patterns recognition, which is the main sign of intelligence in animals. Basically every logic reasoning is a pattern applied on a certain context. For example birds and dogs can learn that if they bring a stick to the trainer they get food, which is something an insect is not able to do. When you solve a linear equation you are applying patterns such as bringing the terms on one side and leaving the x on the other.
This comment >>13319211 is a logical pattern:
>Who gives a shit about IQ?
negation of a thesis
>Common sense and working hard is more important.
new thesis
>Never seen anybody but MENSA wannabes or race obsessed 4channers place any stock in it.
invalidation of the enemy's thesis through buzzwords and strawmen. Strawmen and whataboutism arguments are all patterns btw.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 19:09:27 No.13319612 Report

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>>13319412
if A correlates with B and B correlates with C, A doesn't necessarily correlate with C. show me a study that shows that people who are good at math are also more likely to be good at music or reaction time or any other unrelated cognitive ability.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 19:22:10 No.13319673 Report

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>>13319288
i don't care about nassim "not arab" talib but that table and statement are pure retardation. physics has 73% replication rate?????? psychology correlates higher than medicine?????? if you know anything about how physics and hard sciences work you wouldn't even dare say such thing. psychology will simply never be a real science. it's by definition and inherently flawed, there is no in vitro in psychology, it's all in vivo

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 19:26:23 No.13319693 Report

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>>13319612
>if A correlates with B and B correlates with C, A doesn't necessarily correlate with C

I'm curious now anon, how could this be the case? How can I visualize it?

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 19:31:52 No.13319718 Report

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>>13319673
>this sounds totally wrong so it is

You're a fucking retard, but you're too dumb to ever know it. Do you think all publications and experiments are the repetition of the foundational principals of a field, or is it an attempt to advance an area of study by operating at the vanguard? They aren't conducting your high school fucking experiments dumb shit. Go open the studies listed right there and find fault with them.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 19:32:53 No.13319724 Report

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>>13319612
you're describing 'g' you retarded nigger

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 19:48:04 No.13319790 Report

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>>13317168
IQ tests are fake, give high score to brain damaged people who go with the first option they can think of. This is from the lack of lead.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 20:07:58 No.13319881 Report

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>>13319718
>or is it an attempt to advance an area of study by operating at the vanguard?
you clearly don't know what physics is. unlike social science, physicists aren't retards that just stare at data tables, what you are advancing should make sense theoretically and mathematically then you test it with experiments and physics's experiments are so much more specific than psychology's. in physics everyone knows what concepts like enthalpy, magnetism, etc are and the definitions are clear. go to psychology and it's the exact opposite. psychology's fundamental cores are ill defined, what do you expect of its advancements?
the nature article he cites is too imprecise and it's not for actual results anyway.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Jun 2021 20:20:57 No.13319936 Report

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>>13319881
Wow kiddo, this is really impressive. Why don't you take it up with the Physics professors and researchers that took the survey?

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