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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 07:15:04 2021 No.13296024 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13297773 >>13297799 >>13297822 >>13297830

If there is no (1) unit of something as everything can be infinitely divided into something smaller.
There is no fundamental particle unit that can no longer be chipped away and everything seems to have a smaller thing inside it ad infinitum. This fact instantly makes Mathematics at its foundation mysticism or a pseudoscience. 1+1=2 presupposes that 1 exists and is something you can point to.
I dare you to refute that Mathematics is something real.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 18:54:16 No.13297716 Report

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Literally no one could refute this statement. Imagine.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 19:11:10 No.13297773 Report

Quoted By: >>13297799 >>13297822

>>13296024
>If there is no (1) unit of something as everything can be infinitely divided into something smaller.
*If there is no 1 unit of something, than it does not eixst
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>there is no fundamental particle unit that can no longer be chipped away and everything seems to have a smaller thing inside it ad infinitum
Based on the logic you used initially? Nope.
>This fact instantly makes Mathematics at its foundation mysticism or a pseudoscience.
Based on the logic you used initially? Nope.
>1+1=2 presupposes that 1 exists and is something you can point to.
It doesn't. It just models patterns/behavior.
>I dare you to refute that Mathematics is something real.
We can perform mathematical calculations and write calculations down. This means that mathematics as a subject field does exist. Not as a physical object, but as a process known to humans, like cooking or knowledge of law.
Also, your wording is awful
>I dare you to refute that Mathematics is something real
So you are daring us to refute your own inferred premise?

But okay. I still refuted the logic you used to show that mathematics is "not real" (not using the real number definition of "real", obviously) whatever that even means.

No one is even saying mathematics is "real"; it is a concept humans use to measure and attempt to understand things. It has truth in it, but this truth is limited to what a human being can interpret through their senses and evolution.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 19:17:56 No.13297799 Report

Quoted By: >>13297822

>>13296024
>>13297773
Little addendum: That thing about units is a matter of physics, not "pure mathematics". That's the problem with your post. You seem to be presuming that mathematics means something on its own. It does not. Saying that mathematics means something on its own is like looking at statistical coincidences and drawing conclusions solely from them or interpreting figures and graphs the way the news media and zealous political organizations wants you to interpret them instead of doing your own thinking and asking questions.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 19:24:19 No.13297822 Report

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>>13296024
>>13297773
>>13297799
Oh fuck. Now you've gone and done it OP. I forgot there are people, scientifically-minded people even, who LITERALLY think that numbers "exist".

Goddammn it. Time to brace for that.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 19:25:55 No.13297830 Report

Quoted By: >>13297858

>>13296024
Can consciousness be infinitely divided?

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Anonymous Sat 19 Jun 2021 19:33:26 No.13297858 Report

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>>13297830
No physical object can be "infinitely divided", at least not in the standard sense and not within our realm of limited sensory understanding. There are limitations: The speed of light in a vacuum, Planck's constant, the effects of dividing by 0, the fact that particles, strings, and atoms are different etc..

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