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Eugenics

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 03:01:52 2021 No.13264138 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13264185 >>13264354 >>13264356 >>13264379 >>13264454 >>13264698 >>13265371 >>13265426 >>13265477 >>13265717 >>13265819 >>13266384 >>13266407 >>13267018

>humans breed animals to serve their purpose for thousands of years
>no, but don't try it on humans it's totally unscientific and unwholesome!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 03:09:39 No.13264167 Report

Quoted By: >>13265023

>hey, i got a great idea, how about from now on we cut off the tip of every baby boy's dick so we know which ones are from feminized, servile, sissy cultures
4000 years later
>durrrrrr humans haven't been selectively bred for servility yet, why don't we get started on it? hey wheres the tip of my dick?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 03:14:37 No.13264185 Report

Quoted By: >>13264366 >>13264439 >>13264584 >>13264964 >>13265264 >>13265388

>>13264138
Who ever called eugenics unscientific? The objection to eugenics is just that it's tremendously unethical to prevent somebody from having a family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 03:15:29 No.13264186 Report

Quoted By: >>13264215 >>13264588 >>13265269 >>13265495

eugenics always falls apart when you seriously consider who gets to decide who reproduces. I have yet to find two people on this board who give the same criteria

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 03:23:45 No.13264215 Report

Quoted By: >>13264220

>>13264186
It's easy: only people that think exactly like me get that power, and nobody else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 03:25:41 No.13264220 Report

Quoted By: >>13264224

>>13264215
Why not just you then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 03:27:01 No.13264224 Report

Quoted By: >>13264340 >>13265480

>>13264220
That's a great idea. Unless you are antiscience, you will give all power to me without compromise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:00:58 No.13264340 Report

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>>13264224
Ok. hold on I’m sending all the power rn

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:02:36 No.13264344 Report

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HOW CAN WE USE EUGENICS IN OUR DAILY LIVES TO FIGURE OUT WHO TO PROCREATE WITH???

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:05:38 No.13264354 Report

Quoted By: >>13264566

>>13264138
>How is this possible
>Kid: one pizza must have been bigger than the other
>Teacher: Not possible. 1kg of steel is heavier than 1kg of feathers

Pisses me off

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:05:54 No.13264356 Report

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>>13264138
>humans breed animals to serve their purpose for thousands of years
>no, but don't try it on humans it's totally unscientific and unwholesome!!

Google the meaning of the word 'goy'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:09:18 No.13264366 Report

Quoted By: >>13264937

>>13264185
So we should ban aboritions then? Because women keep practicing active eugenics on men for several decades now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:11:24 No.13264379 Report

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>>13264138
>if you trick the animal into suiciding itself, you aren't morally culpable
https://odysee.com/@Realfake_Newsource:9/RFNS-5.21-001-026:0

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:28:32 No.13264439 Report

Quoted By: >>13264453 >>13264873 >>13264925 >>13264945

>>13264185
Eugenics is unscientific. It works on the presumption that desirable traits can be passed off to future generations without the need for the close inbreeding that serves as the cornerstone for animal husbandry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:32:24 No.13264453 Report

Quoted By: >>13264476

>>13264439
The fact that we've been doing eugenics on animals for thousands of years does prove it and make it scientific. Where the fuck were you in 9th-grade bio you stupid forgetful fool

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:32:35 No.13264454 Report

Quoted By: >>13264469 >>13265067

>>13264138
>don't try it on humans it's totally unscientific and unwholesome

Just curious, but to breed something you have to have a goal, an ideal specimen.
So what color human are you breeding?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:35:46 No.13264469 Report

Quoted By: >>13264502 >>13264725

>>13264454
As white as the blinding snow in February

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:37:00 No.13264476 Report

Quoted By: >>13264494 >>13264945

>>13264453
Animal husbandry isn't eugenics. The theory of eugenics works on a model of constant outbreeding which is something animal husbandry specifically disallows. In order for eugenics to actually work as intended, there needs to be careful breeding among family members with occasional outbreeding to keep the breed from collapsing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:40:52 No.13264494 Report

Quoted By: >>13264497 >>13265324

>>13264476
The breed only collapses if there are bad genes. Eugenics, fucktard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:42:47 No.13264497 Report

Quoted By: >>13264945

>>13264494
The breed collapses when the coefficient of inbreeding exceeds 25% which can easily happen over a couple generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:44:36 No.13264502 Report

Quoted By: >>13264539

>>13264469
why

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 04:54:44 No.13264539 Report

Quoted By: >>13264568

>>13264502
Because although the white race is already at the top, we could be whiter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 05:04:48 No.13264566 Report

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>>13264354
It's a female early education teacher. Shouldn't be surprised they can't do math. Can still be pissed off though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 05:05:56 No.13264568 Report

Quoted By: >>13264591 >>13264879

>>13264539
why do you want to be whiter though, as opposed to olive colored? like, can you list reasons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 05:11:41 No.13264584 Report

Quoted By: >>13264590 >>13264940

>>13264185
>tremendously unethical
it is unethical, it is not TREMENDOUSLY unethical. I think it is not as unethical as putting people in jail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 05:12:43 No.13264588 Report

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>>13264186
>who gets to decide who reproduces
i do

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 05:13:20 No.13264590 Report

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>>13264584
I think it is moreso.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 05:13:22 No.13264591 Report

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>>13264568
Cuz the color of shit is shitty. Nigger not knowing these things already

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 05:55:57 No.13264698 Report

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>>13264138
>>humans breed animals to serve their purpose for thousands of years
Most of them are just retarded versions of animals found in the wild. Pic related.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 06:04:52 No.13264725 Report

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>>13264469
>As white as the blinding snow in February

Well, that is a definite answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 08:09:38 No.13264873 Report

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>>13264439
What?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 08:11:09 No.13264879 Report

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>>13264568
No vitamin D deficiency.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 08:28:47 No.13264925 Report

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>>13264439
Are you such a midwit you can only think in slippery slopes? You think encouraging healthy, 120+IQ individuals and discouraging sick <100IQ individuals leads to inbreeding? Ok retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 08:39:37 No.13264937 Report

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>>13264366
they're not being prohibited to breed.
They're deciding themselves to not.
retard nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 08:40:39 No.13264940 Report

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>>13264584
great argumenting
retard nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 08:42:44 No.13264945 Report

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>>13264439
>>13264476
>>13264497
based. The fact that the nitwits don't get this simple, plausible arguments shows the absolute state of /sci/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 08:51:46 No.13264964 Report

Quoted By: >>13265921 >>13265926

>>13264185
If I had a dollar for every time I've heard someone say "Eugenics is unscientific" I'd be a millionaire. A lot of these people also own dogs...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 09:15:20 No.13265017 Report

Quoted By: >>13265223

Women practice eugenics all the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 09:19:44 No.13265023 Report

Quoted By: >>13265031 >>13265350

>>13264167
Essentially this.
Most people don't realize how they'd been breed to be servant slave cattle.
I meant many Europeans lived thousands of year in serfdom or slavery, no wonder they're so fucking pozzed.
I personally refuse to consider anyone who is circumcised to be an intelligent being.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 09:23:21 No.13265031 Report

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>>13265023
Joke's on you, I'm uncircumcised and I'm still a retard.
*dabs*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 09:30:24 No.13265046 Report

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It is done on humans 100% of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 09:35:51 No.13265060 Report

Quoted By: >>13265373 >>13265452

>>13264698
Even pug population alone is larger than wolf population, and number of all dogs totally destroys wolves. Dogs are clear evolutionary winners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 09:39:16 No.13265067 Report

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>>13264454
>Just curious, but to breed something you have to have a goal, an ideal specimen.
>So what color human are you breeding?
It must have cat ears, color doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 10:53:44 No.13265223 Report

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>>13265017
Both sexes do. How else would women have evolved large breasts and hips ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 11:16:44 No.13265264 Report

Quoted By: >>13265293

>>13264185
Do you know what eugenics is? Because something tells me you don't.
Your idea of eugenics seems to be "that thing when you sterilize people"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 11:17:46 No.13265269 Report

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>>13264186
>autists on 4chan have different opinions of X therefore X could never work in real world

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 11:25:40 No.13265293 Report

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>>13265264
If you consider every example of reproductive selection eugenics, then it is ubiquitous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 11:44:07 No.13265324 Report

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>>13264494
It's inevitable. Look at dog breeds 100 years ago and today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 11:56:35 No.13265350 Report

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>>13265023
explain how you are not a slave to someone

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:06:59 No.13265371 Report

Quoted By: >>13265377

>>13264138
Eugenics was being pushed hard by Science Inc. in the early 20th century and was endorsed by Churchill and multiple American presidents, but after Hitler it became uncool. It's still ok to endorse it today though as long as you don't call it by its name and have politically correct goals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:07:51 No.13265372 Report

Quoted By: >>13265379

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:08:01 No.13265373 Report

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>>13265060
By this measure the absolute pinnacle of life on earth is the mosquito.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:09:12 No.13265377 Report

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>>13265371
True.
Shitlibs are unknowingly promoting the biggest eugenic force in Western world under the guise of "women's right to chose" Fucking lol. Can you believe that? What a clownworld

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:10:49 No.13265379 Report

Quoted By: >>13265445

>>13265372
I still don't understand why this made twitteroids so mad. But the replies were comedy gold. They were describing dysgenics and called that eugenics. lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:16:01 No.13265388 Report

Quoted By: >>13265513

>>13264185
Whats scientific about eugenics? Does it follow the scientific method? Where is the peer reviewed eugenics research?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:20:29 No.13265396 Report

Quoted By: >>13265447

>Where is the peer reviewed eugenics research?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:27:52 No.13265426 Report

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>>13264138
remember,
those who can, do
those that can't, teach

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:33:19 No.13265445 Report

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>>13265379
>I still don't understand why this made twitteroids so mad
Well no one likes to be told publicly that they're dishonest or stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:33:45 No.13265447 Report

Quoted By: >>13265449

>>13265396
Well sure, where is it? What makes it scientific?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:35:04 No.13265449 Report

Quoted By: >>13265457

>>13265447
What are your criteria for something being "scientific"?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:36:20 No.13265452 Report

Quoted By: >>13265456

>>13265060
There are no winners. Life is not a prize.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:37:53 No.13265456 Report

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>>13265452
>hahahaha le epik le Nazis were le right meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:38:04 No.13265457 Report

Quoted By: >>13265461

>>13265449
Any knowledge derived via the scientific method.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:40:22 No.13265461 Report

Quoted By: >>13265463

>>13265457
Eugenics isn't a knowledge. It's a process of improving humans gene pool via selections of desirable traits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:42:12 No.13265463 Report

Quoted By: >>13265469 >>13265473

>>13265461
A process is knowledge. Like a recipe, a procedure. I cant believe you are resorting to pilpul so soon, playing games with the dictionary instead of talking about ideas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:44:32 No.13265469 Report

Quoted By: >>13265491

>>13265463
I mean there's a difference between a recipe and a meal cooked with the recipe. The knowledge of eugenics is not the same as doing eugenics. But there is still knowledge involved, which is not scientific.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:45:13 No.13265473 Report

Quoted By: >>13265479

>>13265463
Well the only necessary knowledge behind eugenics is selection of heritable afaik. Do you think that's not scientific?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:47:37 No.13265477 Report

Quoted By: >>13265499

>>13264138
This image is soul crushing. A system designed to destroy any creative thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:48:36 No.13265479 Report

Quoted By: >>13265485

>>13265473
It is not scientific what is meant by desirable trait. Sometimes it can be. Birth defects are not good. But you can't just say manlets or average people are defective or that blonde hair is superior like there's any science to that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:48:39 No.13265480 Report

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>>13264224
Same, sending power now check your venmo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:49:57 No.13265485 Report

Quoted By: >>13265500

>>13265479
Yeah what is considered "desirable" trait is subjective but that does not make eugenics unscientific.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:51:56 No.13265491 Report

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>>13265469
>The knowledge of eugenics is not the same as doing eugenics.
Sure, but it is part of doing eugenics.
>But there is still knowledge involved, which is not scientific.
It largely is.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:52:49 No.13265493 Report

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Here's your purebred royalty bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:54:01 No.13265495 Report

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>>13264186
The pressure should be broad and weak desu. Strict enforcement is what everyone whines and moans about. In fact, maybe a better approach would be to only encourage certain groups and not discourage anyone. If intelligent people were highly influenced for example but no pressure applied to normals I dont imagine the push back would be too strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:54:51 No.13265499 Report

Quoted By: >>13265529

>>13265477
The worst part is that it is designed to encourage "thinking outside of the box" and questioning the premises. But it makes it so you can only think inside another box outside of the box.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:55:33 No.13265500 Report

Quoted By: >>13265507 >>13265513

>>13265485
>everything i like is science
If all you want to say is that traits can be inherited that's science. Genetics. People knew about that millennia before the discovery of DNA, they just talked about blood. But the "only desirable ought to reproduce" is a political statement, not a scientific fact. What is desirable is not an universal truth and the idea that only them ought to reproduce is also not a scientific truth.
Just say it would be better for future generations and make a case. Just dont lazily throw around the word science for points like bugmen do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 12:58:30 No.13265507 Report

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>>13265500
For instance you can say that if only tall men reproduce because then humanity as a whole gets taller. That would be a scientific statement. What isnt scientific is to say that would be "good".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 13:02:15 No.13265513 Report

Quoted By: >>13265534 >>13265541

>>13265500
>If all you want to say is that traits can be inherited that's science. Genetics. People knew about that millennia before the discovery of DNA, they just talked about blood. But the "only desirable ought to reproduce" is a political statement, not a scientific fact. What is desirable is not an universal truth and the idea that only them ought to reproduce is also not a scientific truth.
I agree with everything said here.

>Just dont lazily throw around the word science for points like bugmen do.
If you remember it was you who was obsessed with eugenics being scientific and peer reviewed >>13265388
If you just said this in the beginning you would save us both a lot of time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 13:05:35 No.13265529 Report

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>>13265499
Its a system designed to be pedantic
>vague problem with poor wording
>hahaha you couldn't predict our stupid answer as this is problem literally designed to break your confidence in your own intuition so you become a good little wagecuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 13:08:35 No.13265534 Report

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>>13265513
Me obsessed? I was just answering to an earlier post that said eugenics was scientific. Because everything HAS to be scientific eh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 13:09:37 No.13265541 Report

Quoted By:

>>13265513
Bro there are no IDs here you dont know who you are answering to

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 14:11:13 No.13265717 Report

Quoted By: >>13266512

>>13264138
>reasonableness
the ness words put me on edge

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 14:34:09 No.13265797 Report

Quoted By: >>13265948

Eugenics is not as good as direct genetic engineering and modification. I don't think it would be possible to bring forth the Amazon female small male master race with just eugenic breeding practices, we need to modify the Y chromosome in a way that eugenics can not do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 14:39:37 No.13265819 Report

Quoted By: >>13265896

>>13264138
>humans breed animals for their meat, milk and fur for thousands of years
>you can't do this to humans because ?????

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 14:58:46 No.13265896 Report

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>>13265819
Domestic animal breeds are often prone to genetic problems. Look at dogs for example. Some breeds are now so inbred that their life expectancy is perhaps half of that of a healthy dog.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 15:06:28 No.13265921 Report

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>>13264964
Do pugs look like the Aryan masterrace of dogs to you, retard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 15:08:05 No.13265926 Report

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>>13264964
My dog is a mutt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 15:18:21 No.13265948 Report

Quoted By: >>13266351

>>13265797
wrong with advanced enough genome analysis you can just pick the gametes that have the traits you want

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 17:36:04 No.13266351 Report

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>>13265948
You can't do that to gametes because you have to extract the dna to analyze it, and so you destroy the cell.
It's only possible with embryos with cells to spare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 17:43:27 No.13266384 Report

Quoted By: >>13266586

>>13264138
Marty's pizza is bigger, who wrote that in green?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 17:50:44 No.13266407 Report

Quoted By: >>13266699

>>13264138
what's with that pizza question? how could it say that marty ate more pizza? unless the pizzas weren't of the same size and 4/6ths of marty's pizza is bigger than 5/6ths of luis' pizza

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 18:22:00 No.13266512 Report

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>>13265717
>/sci/poster hates philosophy
News at 11

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 18:44:41 No.13266586 Report

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>>13266384
a woman that hates children and who probably gleefully enjoyed the spiteful murderous aspects of her dozen abortions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 19:11:04 No.13266699 Report

Quoted By: >>13266746

>>13266407
That's it. The child called the problem correctly but the teacher essentially said that a one pound of feathers weighs less than one pound of steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 19:25:32 No.13266746 Report

Quoted By: >>13266977 >>13267060

>>13266699
damn, i didn't even read the kid's answer
kind of surprised the teacher would make such a mistake though, the "how is that possible?" in the question means that it is true, just that you're asked to explain it, not that it's some trick question where it's actually false and luis actually did eat more pizza than marty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 20:30:19 No.13266977 Report

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>>13266746
makes no sense, maybe it's fake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 20:42:22 No.13267018 Report

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>>13264138
Let x, y be positive real numbers that represent the volume of Marty's and Luis's pizza, respectively.
According to the problem statement,
4x/6 > 5y/6
x > 5/4 y
Hence, Marty's pizza is at least 25% greater in size than Luis's pizza.
QED

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jun 2021 20:51:58 No.13267060 Report

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>>13266746
she was probably winedrunk while marking and forgot what the question was, just saw 5/6 and 4/6 through the alcohol haze and was like "come on kid, do better"

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