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Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 22:13:27 2021 No.13227328 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13227334 >>13227336 >>13227341 >>13227387 >>13228827 >>13228833

>Correlation does not equal causation
Then how can one determine what causes what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 22:15:31 No.13227334 Report

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>>13227328
the law of causality is not true in the universe
it only holds at human-relevant scales
it breaks at the QM level

Lö fargott

Lö fargott Wed 02 Jun 2021 22:15:55 No.13227336 Report

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>>13227328
If you triangulate the geometric point of origin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 22:16:31 No.13227341 Report

Quoted By: >>13227348

>>13227328
Controlled experiments manipulating independent variables and measuring the dependent ones

Lö fargott

Lö fargott Wed 02 Jun 2021 22:17:49 No.13227348 Report

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>>13227341
Math gate keeper tanx.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 22:20:10 No.13227353 Report

Quoted By: >>13227364

Do the same thing twice, but with one thing being different. If another thing disappears, then it was caused by the first, if not, then simply correlated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 22:22:12 No.13227364 Report

Quoted By: >>13227394 >>13227396

>>13227353
For example, ban ice cream. If there will be no sunburns after that, then they were ice cream caused.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 22:28:01 No.13227380 Report

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You don't, it is God's will that links causes and effects. How they function is a mystery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 22:29:48 No.13227387 Report

Quoted By: >>13227704

>>13227328
You make a proof, of course
>P(x) implies P(y)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 22:31:16 No.13227394 Report

Quoted By: >>13227639 >>13227694

>>13227364
What if people only or mainly meet to eat ice cream together though and the number goes back because they meet less

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 22:31:19 No.13227396 Report

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>>13227364
Or disable sunburns. If the ice cream stops existing, you know you found the culprit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 23:40:30 No.13227639 Report

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>>13227394
A properly constructed experiment would force people to attend their usual ice-cream meetings despite there being no ice-cream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 23:51:37 No.13227694 Report

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>>13227394
We need a randomized triple blind placebo-controlled ice-cream-sunburn study.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 23:53:37 No.13227700 Report

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More failure of the language. Sad, really.
Try this on for size; "Correlation does not NECESSITATE causation."

Lö fargott

Lö fargott Wed 02 Jun 2021 23:54:47 No.13227704 Report

Quoted By: >>13227710

>>13227387
What if the connection is not linear?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Jun 2021 23:56:18 No.13227710 Report

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>>13227704
Doesn't matter, the proof still accounts for that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jun 2021 01:58:35 No.13228107 Report

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>>13227639
Being promised ice cream and not getting any seems like the true crime here ngl

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Anonymous Thu 03 Jun 2021 04:58:16 No.13228761 Report

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Causation can't be proven at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jun 2021 05:08:49 No.13228800 Report

Quoted By: >>13228807 >>13228813 >>13228818 >>13228829

>>13228761
i present to you three pieces of information:
on wednesday, i piss in your cheerios.
on wednesday, janice waters her plants.
on wednesday, your cheerios taste like piss.

if you can't figure out what's causing what, here, then i don't know how to help you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jun 2021 05:11:21 No.13228807 Report

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>>13228800
Prove the cheerios didn't taste like piss to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jun 2021 05:12:02 No.13228813 Report

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>>13228800
Meds, take them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jun 2021 05:13:00 No.13228818 Report

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>>13228800
Also prove that pissing in cheerios would make them taste like piss, preferably though experimentation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jun 2021 05:13:59 No.13228822 Report

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The saying is "Correlation does not imply causation." Which it doesn't. A whole lot of correlation with predictable effects properly isolated does imply causation though.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Jun 2021 05:14:00 No.13228823 Report

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>>13228818
>implying i don't piss in my own cheerios every morning
fucking fool

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jun 2021 05:15:00 No.13228827 Report

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>>13227328
by actually understanding the situation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jun 2021 05:15:58 No.13228829 Report

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>>13228800
Fucking Janice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jun 2021 05:16:59 No.13228833 Report

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>>13227328
Do calculus and counterfactual

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