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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 05:00:46 2021 No.13219674 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13219687 >>13219703 >>13219708 >>13219739 >>13220381 >>13220410 >>13220772 >>13221603 >>13221639 >>13221880 >>13221881

If mathematicians are so good at logic, why don't they contribute much in the field of Law?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 05:04:32 No.13219687 Report

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>>13219674
formal vs informal
they do, usually with statistics

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 05:09:21 No.13219703 Report

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>>13219674
>law
>logic
laff

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 05:11:16 No.13219708 Report

Quoted By: >>13219727

>>13219674
The Law is outdated jewish filth.

Everything the jew touches gets filled with overcomplex redundent jargon solely to keep themselves employed.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 05:14:43 No.13219719 Report

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>>13219687
Tell me more about it anon.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 05:17:29 No.13219727 Report

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>>13219708
>dumb nedneck doesn't like laws
shocker

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 05:18:32 No.13219731 Report

Quoted By: >>13219816 >>13219836

>>13219727
we really doin this?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 05:21:01 No.13219736 Report

Quoted By: >>13219842 >>13219855 >>13220430

Are there really times when mathematicians are needed in a court? Doctors/Engineers/Programmers show up from time to time but I've never seen mathematicians in a court

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 05:21:24 No.13219739 Report

Quoted By: >>13221639 >>13221880

>>13219674
Because law isn't built off logic...

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 05:51:18 No.13219816 Report

Quoted By: >>13219862 >>13220008 >>13220920

>>13219731
yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 05:56:56 No.13219836 Report

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>>13219731
I will help next time theres a BLM chimpout. I will laugh when GOPcucks call for a third audit of the votes.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 05:59:07 No.13219842 Report

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>>13219736
They used to bring statisticians in until too many innocent people got put away simply because "it was most likely to be them based on demographics"

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 06:03:17 No.13219855 Report

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>>13219736
Normies can't successfully think about conditional probability at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecutor's_fallacy

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 06:04:33 No.13219862 Report

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>>13219816
>no deaths (other than Trump supporters which obviously no one in the media care about)
>minor property damage
>only casualties are Pelosi and AOC's dignity
>unarmed woman killed by police for breaking a window, but she was white so who gives a fuck lmao

Meanwhile BLM has indirectly killed thousands through reduced law enforcement and skyrocketing crime.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 06:11:36 No.13219893 Report

Quoted By: >>13220428 >>13220442

>>13219855
>Implying average /sci/poster is any good at conditional probability either
Most of /sci/ don't even understand the Monty Hall problem for fucks sake

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 06:39:19 No.13220008 Report

Quoted By: >>13220419

>>13219816
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_United_States_racial_unrest

You honestly think one little public gathering with minimal damage that resulted in a couple of causualties trumps years worth of riots that set cities on fire and billions in damage and led to dozens if not hundreds of deaths?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 08:46:01 No.13220381 Report

Quoted By: >>13220400 >>13221880

>>13219674
Because law isn’t logical.
>hitting your kids is legal
>genital mutilation of baby boys is legal
>women can abort but fathers cannot escape child support
>gender and racial discrimination is illegal except against men and whites
>alcohol is legal but weed is illegal
>taking amphetamines is illegal unless a doctor says that you will focus better with amphetamines
>certain kinds of polluting are illegal but importing products that are produced by polluting in other countries is legal
>you cant consent to sex till 18 but you can consent to puberty blockers at like 11 or whatever
It doesn’t take a math degree to see that these are not logical laws. What could a formal logical argument change?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 08:51:44 No.13220400 Report

Quoted By: >>13220509

>>13220381
Sounds like you're projecting your racist views bro

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 08:55:24 No.13220410 Report

Quoted By: >>13220440

>>13219674
You think The Law determines The Laws of Physics or something?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 08:59:08 No.13220419 Report

Quoted By: >>13220443 >>13221680 >>13221880

>>13220008
easily, trying to block an election is worthy of a war

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 09:00:43 No.13220428 Report

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>>13219893
so?
have you lost track what the tread is about?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 09:02:13 No.13220430 Report

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>>13219736
>He doesn't know

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 09:05:05 No.13220440 Report

Quoted By: >>13220460

>>13220410
legislation and legislators determine what research is an isn't legal and they also determine which scientific endeavors will be funded, so you're completely wrong about natural law and civil law being disconnects. issac newton's academic research was supported by political patronage, if newton hadn't been a member of parliament then our ideas about nature would be different than they currently are.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 09:06:05 No.13220442 Report

Quoted By: >>13221084

>>13219893
so?
have you lost track what the thread is about?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 09:06:08 No.13220443 Report

Quoted By: >>13220449

>>13220419
The audits and new voting laws are attempting that not some random people gathering in a building that had nothing to do with the election, ballots, or counting votes.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 09:08:07 No.13220449 Report

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>>13220443
fuck you too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 09:10:00 No.13220460 Report

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>>13220440
Except being illegal never stopped people from doing something, as much research has been done in the last 50 years on cannabis and meth than any substance and you can't make something work by legislating it which is why the drug war is such a failure.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 09:23:19 No.13220509 Report

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>>13220400
Sounds like you are larping as a low IQ person.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 11:12:25 No.13220772 Report

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>>13219674
This is actually my area of research. There is a subfield of artificial intelligence called argumentation theory that tries to apply formal logic to law

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 12:05:49 No.13220920 Report

Quoted By: >>13221120

>>13219816
>storming
The cops opened the doors and let everybody in, there wasn't any "storming."

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 12:56:05 No.13221078 Report

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>>13219719
Despite making up only 13 percent of the population, blacks commit over 50 percent of all violent crimes

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 12:59:04 No.13221084 Report

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>>13220442
You used the term "normie" (it's normalfag btw) so he got angry because that other anon is probably (lol) a coping fucking normalfag.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 13:14:49 No.13221120 Report

Quoted By: >>13221550

>>13220920
sure bud
https://youtu.be/0pe241gW0dQ?t=6m

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 15:14:38 No.13221550 Report

Quoted By: >>13221554

>>13221120
That's a cool montage and all, but there's no way to prove the image and audio were happening at the same time.
Here's a video of cops LITERALLY opening the doors, stepping aside and letting people walk by.

https://twitter.com/christina_bobb/status/1347596278583197698

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 15:15:55 No.13221554 Report

Quoted By: >>13221556

>>13221550
That's a cool montage and all, but there's no way to prove the image and audio were happening at the same time.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 15:16:46 No.13221556 Report

Quoted By: >>13221571

>>13221554
?
The audio isn't necessary in my clip. You can watch it muted if you want (but I know you won't because you're scared).

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 15:21:13 No.13221571 Report

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>>13221556
The audio isn't necessary in my clip. You can watch it muted if you want (but I know you won't because you're scared).

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 15:35:33 No.13221603 Report

Quoted By: >>13221688

>>13219674
Because law is based on rhetoric, in particular on sophistry, not logic.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 15:48:45 No.13221639 Report

Quoted By: >>13221704

>>13219674
this >>13219739
law is about reason, and usually bad reason, and often purposefully bad reasoning because you are supposed to defend your client on every single front even if it means calling a lifetime druggie and remorseless killer a compassionate man who was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. and defending or incriminating druggie retards isn't worth the time.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 15:59:52 No.13221680 Report

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>>13220419
You do know Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln did the same thing right? Except they were man enough to go all the way.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 16:01:11 No.13221688 Report

Quoted By: >>13221710

>>13221603
Depends what formalism, Antonin Scalia's Originalism as he lays out in Reading Law is very structured and mathematical.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 16:03:50 No.13221704 Report

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>>13221639
Criminal law I agree with you, but in something like constitutional law there is a lot of logic and reasoning to understand the power dynamics of certain decisions.
https://youtu.be/gk8IKBWrTqw

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 16:05:21 No.13221710 Report

Quoted By: >>13221815

>>13221688
and yet he was smothered with a pillow

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 16:36:14 No.13221815 Report

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>>13221710
Some say heart attack gun

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 16:55:47 No.13221880 Report

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>>13219674
>>13219739
the closest thing to mathematical logic in law in libertarian legal theory
https://mises.org/library/introduction-libertarian-legal-theory

every other law system is riddled with logical contradictions such as
>>13220381

>>13220419
if an individual doesnt have the right to coerce another innocent individual, how can a group of innocent individuals decide the lives of other groups of innocent individuals?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABB-lScOoSk

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Anonymous Tue 01 Jun 2021 16:55:51 No.13221881 Report

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>>13219674
Leibniz and Fermat were lawyers. Many such cases.

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