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Anonymous Wed 26 May 20:28:31 2021 No.13193368 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13193483 >>13193524 >>13193635 >>13193659 >>13194581 >>13194693 >>13194864 >>13197005

>Ok now i understand that evolution happened by genes that is fit to environment passed to next generation and random mutations caused them to change their physical and behaviors but I still don't understand how 2 million years ago homo habilis started develop tools but no other hominid or animal never even close to that? How Homo "Sapiens" successfully passed that great barrier?
How do you answer her /sci/?

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 20:52:44 No.13193483 Report

Quoted By: >>13193507

>>13193368
other animals use tools and there are analog behaviors in many species. examples include apes crushing foods with rocks, corvids using sticks to insert into cavities, passerines constructing intricately weaved nests from sticks and straws, hermit crabs scavenging shells, etc etc

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 20:57:38 No.13193507 Report

Quoted By: >>13193521 >>13193546 >>13193550

>>13193483
But she said "develop" not use anon

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:01:05 No.13193521 Report

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>>13193507
i think in the example of corvids, they’ve seen ones remove leaves and branches from their poking sticks and shape them into hooks etc
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsbl.2015.0777

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:01:11 No.13193524 Report

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>>13193368
Other species have also evolved larger brain over time

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13971

We seem to have won the race though.

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:03:52 No.13193535 Report

Quoted By: >>13193543 >>13193548 >>13193571 >>13194537

The hominid body plan is the supreme animal body, our ability to grapple and wrestle is absolutely unmatched, this has meant the primary conflict driving hominid evolution has been competition between hominids, which can only occur along size, strength, and intelligence. The only true barrier to intelligence was the development of such a body.

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:05:05 No.13193543 Report

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>>13193535
What about crabs ? When do we get 6 legs ?

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:05:19 No.13193546 Report

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>>13193507
We simply don't know maam it is all guessing game only God can answer that

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:06:00 No.13193548 Report

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>>13193535
>our ability to grapple and wrestle is absolutely unmatched

>blocks your path

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:06:07 No.13193550 Report

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>>13193507
If I see a Jewish nose in this picture, is it /pol/-induced pareidolia or /x/-tier schizophrenia?

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:07:25 No.13193558 Report

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>>13193548
Per weight I bet we could still fuck them up, but bears are close.

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:13:05 No.13193571 Report

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>>13193535
But op is right, why no other primate done that too other than descendants of Homo Habilis? They also had 2 million years

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:16:29 No.13193594 Report

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>>13193571
The rest of the apes are just numerically irrelevant island dead ends, too far from humans to be a target of the sapiens hypercide, prior to this different hominids could more or less coexist.

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:24:43 No.13193635 Report

Quoted By: >>13193651

>>13193368
Neanderthals developed tools, and had bigger brains than us.

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:29:36 No.13193651 Report

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>>13193635
Neanderthals are also descendants of Homo Habilis

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Anonymous Wed 26 May 2021 21:30:40 No.13193659 Report

Quoted By: >>13194609

>>13193368
Silence thot, it is not the place for a woman to question a man's scientific theory, Allah willing.

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 01:19:39 No.13194537 Report

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>>13193535
Actually it's our ability to throw that puts us on top

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 01:30:44 No.13194581 Report

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>>13193368
>How do you answer her /sci/?

She's a woman and wouldnt understand that evilotion is FAKE SCIENCE

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 01:37:00 No.13194609 Report

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>>13193659
found the micropenis

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 01:55:52 No.13194693 Report

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>>13193368
Complex eyesight and pattern recognition randomly developed as a survival tactic. The ability to use tools (as observed in many animals) is just a byproduct of pattern recognition the only difference between us and an ape is the severity of our development.

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 02:32:55 No.13194864 Report

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>>13193368
thumbs + brain

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 02:36:14 No.13194875 Report

Quoted By: >>13196335 >>13196380 >>13196631

Evolution is not science.

The second law of Thermodynamics (you know, something discovered by REAL scientists) states that entropy increases, the world becomes more disorderly and chaotic with time.

However, Evolution teaches the opposite, that is, things get better.

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 02:37:21 No.13194879 Report

Quoted By: >>13196324

>>13194609
8" checking in, fully agree with comment you tried to rebuke. sup

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 11:11:07 No.13196324 Report

Quoted By: >>13196514

>>13194879
Pics or didn't happen

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 11:16:26 No.13196330 Report

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>no other hominid or animal never even close to that?
Blatantly untrue. Chimpanzees use simple tools, fuck even birds do it.

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 11:17:31 No.13196335 Report

Quoted By: >>13196353 >>13196386

>>13194875
>The second law of Thermodynamics (you know, something discovered by REAL scientists) states that entropy increases, the world becomes more disorderly and chaotic with time.
That is perfectly in line with evolution, your intelligence quotient is too low to see why, however.

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 11:25:03 No.13196353 Report

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>>13196335
>intelligence quotient

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 11:38:49 No.13196380 Report

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>>13194875
Wrong.

>E. F. Bunn, "Evolution and the second law of thermodynamics", Am. J. Phys. 77, 922 (2009)

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 11:41:00 No.13196386 Report

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>>13196335
Also wrong. Evolution requires entropy reduction, see >>13196380. However, the Sun more than makes up for it when you consider the Earth/Sun as a closed system.

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 12:41:53 No.13196514 Report

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>>13196324
Google dot com big black benis

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 13:51:04 No.13196631 Report

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>>13194875
>another retard that doesn't understand thermodynamics
in an ISOLATED system the PROBABILITY of order increasing is very low becoming lower the more microstates you have. earth is getting bombarded with 1000W/m^2 of energy, it's no coincidence life relies solely on sun. even non phototrophic life like the first cells that ate minerals or some shit rely on sun providing heat for catalytic processes, shifting equilibrium, activation energy, etc

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 15:31:36 No.13197005 Report

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>>13193368
>no other hominid or animal never even close to that?
What makes you so sure...

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Anonymous Thu 27 May 2021 15:42:31 No.13197048 Report

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one/few genetic mutation breakthroughs pushed our "human ancestors" into a different niche then said homos developed and finetuned themselves to fit this niche better through selection. that's why all our ancestors are dead.

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