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0.999... is NOT 1

Anonymous Fri 21 May 21:39:10 2021 No.13168458 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13168924 >>13169000 >>13169080 >>13169090 >>13169315 >>13169352 >>13169371 >>13170178 >>13173752

I will end that discussion so no more threads pollute the board.

0.999... is not one, nor is it its limit, because I said so, that is my definition therefore I'm right

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 21:40:08 No.13168461 Report

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>if it's one then every one has to agree with the hitomi's number interpretation
>if that's true then they have to agree with the 1 != 0 shcizo
holy fucking kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 23:39:07 No.13168924 Report

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>>13168458
its 1 lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 00:05:27 No.13169000 Report

Quoted By: >>13169020 >>13169105

>>13168458
What is $\frac{1-0.999...}{2}$ ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 00:10:35 No.13169020 Report

Quoted By: >>13169032 >>13171000

>>13169000
0.000...05

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 00:12:45 No.13169032 Report

Quoted By: >>13169105

>>13169020
What's in between the ellipsis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 00:27:36 No.13169080 Report

Quoted By: >>13169105

>>13168458
1/3 = 0.333...
2/3 = 0.666...
1/3 + 2/3 = 1
Therefore, 0.333... + 0.666... = 1

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Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 00:31:34 No.13169090 Report

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>>13168458
NO!!
ALL MUST BELIEVE!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 00:37:56 No.13169105 Report

Quoted By: >>13169320 >>13169378 >>13169411

>>13169080
1/3 is NOT 0.333...
1/3 is exactly 1 divided by 3, nothing more, nothing less, and the result of this division is a third, just that.

>>13169032
what ellipsis?

>>13169000
something that is greater than 0 but less than a half

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 01:37:45 No.13169315 Report

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>>13168458
if 0.999... was 1 then it would be 1 not 0.999...
sure 0.999... is close to 1 but it IS NOT 1 exactly. however 0.999... of an apple is still good enough to be 1 for me. its better the 0.998

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 01:39:45 No.13169320 Report

Quoted By: >>13169584

>>13169105
How does one divide one by three? You only have one. Does not compute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 01:43:16 No.13169333 Report

Quoted By: >>13169413

Then show me a number that is between 0.999... and 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 01:44:06 No.13169338 Report

Quoted By: >>13169365 >>13171817

for tards that think 0.999...=/=1 : please define $0.\bar{9}$ rigorously. Be consice, unambiguous, and use LaTeX so you dont destroy my eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 01:49:33 No.13169352 Report

Quoted By: >>13171041 >>13171817

>>13168458
You are doing GOD'S work, OP. We of the ONE TRUE FINITE FAITH wholly endorse your efforts and bestow upon them the hallmarks of a HOLY CRUSADE! Let's crush those disgusting, filthy INFINITY LOVING SODOMITES and cleanse this Earth of their vile HERESY! May they rot in the discrete flames of a Hell for a finite duration.

Say it with me, Brothers and Sisters of the ONE TRUE FINITE FAITH!

DEUS VULT!

Jesus

Jesus Sat 22 May 2021 01:52:08 No.13169359 Report

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another bait to waste time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 01:53:27 No.13169365 Report

Quoted By: >>13171041

>>13169338
SILENCE SINNER! We will not engage with your FILTHY tricks! For truth needs no proof, it is self evident and no amount of your slimy proofs riddled with erroneous BLASPHEMY will distract us from the TRUE MATHEMATICAL PATH

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 01:54:14 No.13169371 Report

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>>13168458
1/inf=0

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 01:55:32 No.13169378 Report

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>>13169105
1/3 = 3/10 + 1/30
= 0.3 + 1/30
= 0.33 + 1/300
= 0.333 + 1/3000
:
= 0.3... + 1/inf
= 0.3... + 0
= 0.3...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:03:04 No.13169411 Report

Quoted By: >>13174944 >>13175351

>>13169105
what's the decimal representation of 1/3?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:03:22 No.13169413 Report

Quoted By: >>13169419 >>13169440

>>13169333
.999....9. Infinite means it never ends. You just run out of space to write it out. It will never be 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:04:06 No.13169419 Report

Quoted By: >>13169444

>>13169413
What's the decimal representation of 1/3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:08:36 No.13169440 Report

Quoted By: >>13169450

>>13169413
0.999... is static, the length is aleph_0 from the get go.
Your naive cartoon vision of a diesel engine chugging along is ridiculous. Embarrassing even.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:08:51 No.13169444 Report

Quoted By: >>13169445 >>13169452 >>13172302

>>13169419
It doesn't have one. .33 repeating is NOT 1/3rd, it's a close approximation used because math isn't discreet, it's a symbol/language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:10:13 No.13169445 Report

Quoted By: >>13169454 >>13169500

>>13169444
So only a few numbers have a decimal representation? How would I type 1/3 so a computer would understand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:11:35 No.13169450 Report

Quoted By: >>13169453 >>13169474 >>13171630

>>13169440
It is not static by its very nature, alephs only work because it's the only way to represent infinity on paper, in the same way pi continues to expand infinitely but a calculator or a smooth-brained poster like some in this thread can only count up to a certain part of it. Your inability to understand this belies the weakness in your understanding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:11:46 No.13169452 Report

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>>13169444
>.33 repeating is NOT 1/3rd
wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_series

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:12:48 No.13169453 Report

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>>13169450
>It is not static
wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:12:51 No.13169454 Report

Quoted By: >>13169459

>>13169445
You wouldn't. The computer would not understand, and if you didn't program it to give it the number you wanted(not the correct answer), it spits out an error. That's why shitty calculators throw errors when you do calculations it can't handle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:14:11 No.13169459 Report

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>>13169454
>calculators cant handle 1/3
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:15:45 No.13169465 Report

Quoted By: >>13171820

$\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty}k = \frac{e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=-e^{\pi\sqrt{-\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}^{\infty} \frac{9}{10^{n}}}}}{12}$

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:17:59 No.13169474 Report

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>>13169450
>mountains don't exist because my car can't drive up to their top
meds

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Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:23:36 No.13169497 Report

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0.999 is close enough to 1.000 for government work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:24:22 No.13169500 Report

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>>13169445
Switch to duodecimal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:31:06 No.13169530 Report

Quoted By: >>13169554 >>13169586

.999... = 1
.888... = .9
.777... = .8
....
...
.111... = .2
.000... = .1

something's wrong here

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:38:16 No.13169554 Report

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>>13169530
>something's wrong here
Yeah. That's not the pattern.
$0.\bar{9}=9/9\\ 0.\bar{8}=8/9\\ 0.\bar{7}=7/9\\ 0.\bar{6}=6/9\\ 0.\bar{5}=5/9\\ 0.\bar{4}=4/9\\ 0.\bar{3}=3/9\\ 0.\bar{2}=2/9\\ 0.\bar{1}=1/9\\ 0.\bar{0}=0/9$

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:45:48 No.13169584 Report

Quoted By: >>13170195 >>13171035 >>13173082

>>13169320
>How does one divide one by three? You only have one. Does not compute.
Make a line of exactly 1 cm
Now divide the line in 3 equal parts
Each part will be 1/3, which is 0.3 cm
This is physical reality

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:46:18 No.13169586 Report

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>>13169530
>.888... = .9
awww it's retarded

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Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 02:51:26 No.13169601 Report

Quoted By: >>13169724

WELL?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 03:00:05 No.13169623 Report

Quoted By: >>13170946

For those of the ONE TRUE FINITE FAITH I implore you to NOT engage with these GOD CURSED INFINITY LOVING SODOMITES! They are liars, thieves and anal sex practitioners, and therefore rightfully DAMNED in the eyes of GOD!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 03:04:42 No.13169641 Report

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If the universe dies and is reborn infinitely, does that make the length of our lives 0?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 03:27:50 No.13169724 Report

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>>13169601
https://youtu.be/elvOZm0d4H0?t=4m

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 05:42:08 No.13170178 Report

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>>13168458
Nice bait, but if anyone seriously believes .999... is not equal to 1, please look up any of the definitions of the Real numbers and realize you know jack shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 05:46:08 No.13170195 Report

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>>13169584
>Each part will be 1/3, which is 0.3 cm
Ok, you're baiting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 10:16:13 No.13170920 Report

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look up the definition of limit.
If you know it, it is not even counterintuitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 10:28:21 No.13170946 Report

Quoted By: >>13171018 >>13171827

>>13169623
Hey man... this thread is not that good. It's boring as fuck and no one cares. Sorry to break it to you.

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Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 10:53:18 No.13171000 Report

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>>13169020
>0.000...05

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 11:01:11 No.13171018 Report

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>>13170946
Then go watch lolcats. We like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 11:07:23 No.13171035 Report

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>>13169584
>a line of exactly 1 cm
>Now divide the line in 3 equal parts
>Each part will be 1/3, which is 0.3 cm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 11:11:17 No.13171041 Report

Quoted By: >>13171276

>>13169352
>>13169365
Saying this in every single shitpost math thread is hilarious and in no way grating or annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 13:05:07 No.13171276 Report

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>>13171041
cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 14:48:20 No.13171630 Report

Quoted By: >>13171755

>>13169450
how fast is pi expanding? how many digits per second, are there any estimates?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 15:28:36 No.13171755 Report

Quoted By: >>13172387

>>13171630
At the speed of light. Since the big bang pi has been expanding at that speed. Estimates place pi's current decimal extension at being approximately 13.8 billion light years long. The number of actual decimals within that length is derived by taking the number of plank lengths within a light year and simply multiplying by 13.8 billion. This number is the current lower bound of MOAN, the "Mother Of All Numbers", the number which lies at the current end of the number line. The value of MOAN changes over time, of course, as the Universe continues to expand. But other than that no further number can be added to the present value of MOAN, by definition. Attempting to add anything to the present value will result in you sailing over the edge of reality and into the devouring jaws of hyperspace monsters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 15:45:03 No.13171817 Report

Quoted By: >>13173250

>>13169352
DEUS VULT BROTHER

>>13169338
>please define 0.999... rigorously.
a decimal number with N nines after the decimal point where N is a natural number

> use LaTeX
I'd rather not use anything with X since that is part of the mark of the beast

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 15:47:06 No.13171820 Report

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>>13169465
this post is making my phone freeze

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 15:48:39 No.13171827 Report

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>>13170946
im not here to be a clown for your entertainment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 17:31:33 No.13172302 Report

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>>13169444
Lol you humongous faggot. You invert the relationship between symbols and actuality. 0.333... is just an artifact of notation. It has no inherent, independent meaning. Only the natural numbers exist in nature, anyway, and 0.333... is of course 1/3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 17:49:00 No.13172387 Report

Quoted By: >>13174784

>>13171755
>MOAN
either moan+1 exists, or moan isn't a number

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 20:44:56 No.13173082 Report

Quoted By: >>13173224 >>13173244

>>13169584
Are you fucking braindead? 3 parts of 0.3 cm physically adds up to 0.9 cm, not 1 cm. 1/3 equals 0.3 repeating. How is this even up for debate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 21:21:03 No.13173224 Report

Quoted By: >>13173725

>>13173082
>Are you fucking braindead? 3 parts of 0.3 cm physically adds up to 0.9 cm, not 1 cm. 1/3 equals 0.3 repeating.
>How is this even up for debate?
Do it yourself jogger, make a line of 1 cm and divide it in 3 parts, then measure each part separately

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 21:27:48 No.13173244 Report

Quoted By: >>13173265 >>13173725

>>13173082
Pretend you are literally a carpenter. All you have is a pencil and a tape measure and you need to divide a centimeter into three parts. how do you do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 21:28:50 No.13173250 Report

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>>13171817
>a decimal number with N nines after the decimal point where N is a natural number
Yeah. That is indeed not 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 21:33:03 No.13173265 Report

Quoted By: >>13173353 >>13173759

>>13173244
anon the 0.999... = 1 morons would say they would need an infinite zoom microscope and of course an infinitely thin pencil
then, they would make a line of 0.3 cm, then zoom in 1x and add 0.3 cm, then zoom in 10x and add 0.03 cm, then zoom in 10x and add 0.003 cm, and so on
Eventually they would die trying to prove their crack theory

Lucky for then microscopes can't zoom infinitely and pencils aren't think enough to go beyond a milimeter, so he would find 1 divided by 3 in real life is about 0.33 cm which is really 0.3 cm if you consider the width of the pencil mark

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 22:00:06 No.13173353 Report

Quoted By: >>13174904

>>13173265
imagine being this stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 00:18:00 No.13173725 Report

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>>13173224
>>13173244
Well sure, in practice 1/3 = roughly 0.3, the same way pi only equals 3.14 or 3.1. But we're not talking about carpentry, we're talking about math. Put in 1/3 in your calculator and it'll give you 0.333... Saying anything otherwise is probably just bait. And here I thought this was an intelligent board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 00:24:04 No.13173752 Report

Quoted By: >>13173842 >>13174135 >>13174214

>>13168458
Whats the name of the guy that said he solved physics by coding a cellular automata in excel?
his equation that he talked about was U = E/S
what the fuck was his name
there used to be tons of cellular automata threads here because of him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 00:25:44 No.13173759 Report

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>>13173265
t. failed high school calc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 00:53:30 No.13173842 Report

Quoted By: >>13174639

>>13173752
what does solving physics mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 02:52:10 No.13174135 Report

Quoted By: >>13174639

>>13173752
I mean, we had a meta-cellular automata thread recently (wonder if they ever posted their machinations to some small reddit or obscure forum), but I don't know anything about this Excelfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 03:21:35 No.13174214 Report

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>>13173752
>>13174103

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 05:07:19 No.13174639 Report

Quoted By: >>13175055

>>13173842
>>13174135
someone on discord knew who i was talking about
https://youtu.be/WuXCS_K_8qM
It was fuckin Gary, but he unlisted everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 05:50:22 No.13174784 Report

Quoted By: >>13174904

>>13172387
The value of MOAN changes over time as the Universe expands. You cant add anything else to it because there is nothing left in the Universe to add. By definition. Now I know it must be hard for you, but do try to stop being stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 05:55:51 No.13174798 Report

Quoted By: >>13174817

Brothers and Sisters of the ONE TRUE FINITE FAITH, I have glorious NEWS for you. Today I snuck into the local library, got out some maths books, and while no one was watching, I CROSSED OUT every single mention of infinity. With an INDELIBLE INK pen!
I HAVE STRUCK A MIGHTY BLOW for the HOLY CHURCH OF THE FINITE!
God will surely be pleased with me. I think I will nominate myself for Sainthood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 06:02:47 No.13174817 Report

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>>13174798
Unless you used a fountain pen, your work is nil

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 06:40:40 No.13174904 Report

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>>13174784
>>13173353

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 06:54:10 No.13174944 Report

Quoted By: >>13174953

>>13169411
idk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 06:59:35 No.13174953 Report

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>>13174944
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 07:45:57 No.13175055 Report

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>>13174639
Gary sticks to twitter and Tiktok these days.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1621755911454.webm
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1621755873427.webm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 10:16:59 No.13175351 Report

Quoted By: >>13175912

>>13169411
theres none, it cant be represented. decimals presuppose a base ten. dividing ten by three is uneven by ten and therefore imperfectly representable by base ten. there is no such thing as a decimal representation of 1/3. 0.333... is a cope, the ellipses are added because its unrepresentable, and it confers to the imagination to complete it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 May 2021 14:19:49 No.13175912 Report

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>>13175351
That doesn't make sense though, as you have mentioned the base ten system.
In base 3, 1/3 is 0.1. No repeated digits, no ellipsis. Does this exist or not?

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