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Anonymous Fri 21 May 13:54:23 2021 No.13166675 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13166903 >>13168803 >>13169263 >>13170644

Is abiotic oil theory true ? wiki says it's bullshit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin

Is oil from oil wells composed of more complex hydrocarbon chains that couldn't be produced without biology ?

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 14:00:19 No.13166700 Report

Quoted By: >>13166710 >>13166777 >>13170644

I don't know what inorganic processes produced oil but I'm certain it wasn't formed by muh organic depositions of dinosaurs and organic matter underground. This is indeed bullshit and there's never been proof of such process.

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 14:03:16 No.13166710 Report

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>>13166700
Might be, but the people who like to spout abiotic oil theory always pair it with "oil is infinite" narrative while, AFAIK, abiotic or not, oil wells do deplete over time and do not recover their original levels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 14:20:51 No.13166777 Report

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>>13166700
>I dont understand something because I am an uneducated, stupid and ignorant hick, therefore its bullshit.
Subhuman logic at work. Same shit that gives us flat earthers. Stay in your trailer and shut the fuck up, fucking subhuman.

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 14:47:01 No.13166869 Report

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>>13166777
>oil has organic backbone therefore it comes from animals and plants
>why yes at 4km deep under the rock
>Don't you dare mentioning any abiotic possibility or I insult you
The redditor brain in action

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 14:58:34 No.13166903 Report

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>>13166675
>Is abiotic oil theory true ?
Yes, a doctor in geophysics told me it's true

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 16:45:55 No.13167254 Report

Quoted By: >>13170644

>>13166869
Most oil comes from marine microorganisms getting buried and cooked, then the oil and gas flows through porous rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 21:58:54 No.13168543 Report

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>some some organic matter and bury it 100ft underground
>100 years later open it up and you will find oil
What's so mysterious about this?

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:02:40 No.13168562 Report

Quoted By: >>13168586 >>13168604 >>13168664

>>13168543
>What's so mysterious about this?
people finding oil where no biological life existed

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:08:16 No.13168586 Report

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>>13168562
how do they know?

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:12:33 No.13168604 Report

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>>13168562

Cyanobacteria produce tons and tons of alkanes. The enzymes responsible have been characterized to some extent. These enzymes catalyze the decarbonylation of aliphatic aldehydes

Just Google "aldehyde decarbonylase" and you'll come across some ACS/Nature papers. I doubt you'll have access to them given that you're likely a retard and not enrolled in a university

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:14:32 No.13168612 Report

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I've NEVER seen it mentioned, ever. Back when I was clueless I thought its pure bullshit and that you need a lot of time and massive pressure plus a lot of organic material to form oil.

But since then I got redpilled and realized half of science is literal bullshit so why wouldn't this be? They lied about pretty much everything else.

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:21:39 No.13168651 Report

Quoted By: >>13168671 >>13170644

We observe that oil wells can become depleted and that once depleted no oil well has renewed themselves within the 1 century we've been keeping records. Anything involving longer timescales is a guess.

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:27:21 No.13168664 Report

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>>13168562
>take some sterilized organic matter seal it in a vessel with fine mineral powder and metal powders
>organic catalyst reactions occur and destroy the previous traces of organic life leaving only an oily petrol residue
What's so mysterious about this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:29:26 No.13168671 Report

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>>13168651
From what I've heard they do replenish themselves. The exact same way that if you dig a hole in the sand at the beach the water will keep seeping through the sand.
It doesn't mean new oil is being created, just that the fluid pressure on the oil will cause it to keep seeping through the soil

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:31:48 No.13168686 Report

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>>13168671
I've never heard of a single well anywhere ever replenishing naturally on human timescales

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:43:53 No.13168736 Report

Quoted By: >>13168740 >>13170644

>>13168686
Do you work in oil?
There some stories floating around /x/ where oil wells fill back up over a few decades

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:46:34 No.13168740 Report

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>>13168736
I design truck parts but as a hobby I read lots of general economic and technical stuff about industry. Idk that much about oil but I own several books on the uses of natgas.

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:52:25 No.13168759 Report

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>>13168740
There is fucking tremendous pressure on oil that is hundreds of meters below the earth. So even though oil is thickly viscous there is still tremendous pressure pushing it to fill the void created where the old oil was sucked out from

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 22:53:30 No.13168766 Report

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>>13168686
It's bad for business to claim that oil is abundant and that oil wells are self-replenishing

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Anonymous Fri 21 May 2021 23:05:56 No.13168803 Report

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>>13166675
You are correct. Oil is HydroCarbon, a combination of H and C molecules.
H, hydrogen, is the most abundant element on the planet, around 70% of everything.
Lots of HydroCarbons can be used as fuel.

Capitalists aren’t telling about replenishing wells, but you can track world’s largest oil producers in former Soviet Union / Russia and Saudi’s.
They already reported millions of extra barrels produced in supposedly depleted wells.
Exxon Mobil Rockefeller’s monopoly people don’t like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 01:24:14 No.13169263 Report

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>>13166675
It certainly would make sense for big oil to make everybody believe it’s biotic and hence won’t refill itself soon. In reality there is a decent amount of contradictory evidence. E.g. the observed refilling of oil wells. Next to no scientists could claim otherwise since they all depend on the money of big oil directly or indirectly.

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Anonymous Sat 22 May 2021 08:14:17 No.13170644 Report

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>>13166675
>>13166700
>>13167254
>>13168651
>>13168671
>>13168736
>>13169263
To evaluate this, you just need to know that oil has helium inside at a concentration 1000 times the surrounding rock. Helium is produced from radioactive alpha decay of heavy nuclei, and it can't possibly get into the oil if the oil is just sitting under some rocks. It needs to diffuse in as the oil goes through a radioelement rich environment.

The only place where there is a large concentration of radioactive alpha-decaying heavy elements is the mantle (and the core too, but that's a stretch), and so the oil comes from the mantle.

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