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Anonymous Thu 20 May 00:00:01 2021 No.13159422 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13159427 >>13159492 >>13159937 >>13159968 >>13160080

I want you all to read this article from beginning to end, and THEN tell me it's shit.
https://www.wired.com/story/muon-observation-particle-physics/
There is something eternal about existence. Tolstoy glimpsed it. Wordsworth glimpsed it. Plato glimpsed it. Spinoza glimpsed it. The "god of Spinoza", which is referenced by Einstein. Eternity or infinity can't be real? Yes, perhaps. But only in our insular universe, which is governed by limits.

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 00:00:54 No.13159427 Report

Quoted By: >>13159448

>>13159422
>wired
No

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 00:06:09 No.13159448 Report

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>>13159427
it's usually bad, which is why i asked you to just read it start to finish before rendering a judgment

oh well

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 00:16:11 No.13159492 Report

Quoted By: >>13159875

>>13159422
it's become pretty clear to me that the universe is paradoxical, and that's ok, since the idea of the paradox, and of logical constraints, is ultimately a human concept.

the universe is both infinite and finite, in all ways. size, time, distance, etc. it achieves this via parabolic limits. from any individual point, finite limitations are clear, but the one making the measurement will always be in the parabolic center. if you change your position, whether it be in time, position, even size, you will still be in parabolic center, always.

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 01:44:25 No.13159875 Report

Quoted By: >>13159986

>>13159492
>the universe is paradoxical, and that's ok
What begat logic is unknowable, since it is chaos, and therefore unknowable.

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 02:00:10 No.13159937 Report

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>>13159422
im literally never going to click on a wired article again because of how bad that was. wow all of that fluff and humdrum about how this team of scientists got their model wrong by .0000000whatever percent. Thats it.

Everything you're talking about is your own projections OP. The article is about discovery and you're making it sound like its about reality or something bigger. your probably just see the pretty art and it makes your dumb monkey brain go stupid

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 02:06:04 No.13159968 Report

Quoted By: >>13164304

>>13159422
>read this wired article
Okay I'll try to see how far I get before I am so cringed out I have to stop
Let's begin:
>Attempting to model the universe as precisely as possible is to try to see the one thing that even the strictest atheist agrees is everlasting.
Already this is hopeless, author needed to throw in religion for some reason. Then there's like 4 unneccesary sentences where the author is attempting to be funny, it's all so tiresome. Blah blah some guy's poem? Who gives a fuck. Blah blah
Omg there's particles that don't live which means they never die! Immortality!

What a trash comic book tier article. Meanwhile over at Quanta magazine, which is still pulp science but at least more indepth, they simply conclude the standard model has some deviations and leaves open the idea for new physics.

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 02:08:58 No.13159986 Report

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>>13159875
uhhh...

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 02:39:57 No.13160080 Report

Quoted By: >>13161900

>>13159422
elementary particles like muons and electrons are comprised of sub-quantum particles, like 10^50 type sizes which is why we can't detect them. and those particles are made from even smaller particles, etc. it never ends.

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 12:19:03 No.13161900 Report

Quoted By: >>13162338

>>13160080
source?

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 14:36:12 No.13162338 Report

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>>13161900
It was revealed to me in a dream.

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:02:10 No.13164304 Report

Quoted By: >>13164314

>>13159968
>Quanta magazine
Every time quanta magazine is brought up, it is bashed as "popsci". I don't get this board. It just sounds like a lot of contrarians.

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Anonymous Thu 20 May 2021 23:03:57 No.13164314 Report

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>>13164304
I mean the description of Quanta Magazine reads as "it's a magazine for PUBLIC OUTREACH about science". Of course, it's not a peer reviewed scientific journal. It doesn't claim to be.

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