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Anonymous Wed 19 May 03:20:51 2021 No.13154959 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13155020 >>13155034 >>13155065 >>13155067 >>13155074 >>13155092 >>13155125 >>13155460 >>13155942 >>13156164

is "natural talent" a huge meme?
are people just practicing much more in secret, and then presenting themselves as prodigies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:29:07 No.13154991 Report

Quoted By: >>13155092

Yes. Except in some children, where math or music comes very easy to them naturally.

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:34:14 No.13155020 Report

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>>13154959
Based on my experience, no. some students coast through certain subjects while others cannot get it no matter what they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:37:19 No.13155034 Report

Quoted By: >>13155065

>>13154959
Sometimes there are family secret that are passed down.

Open source and journal publication is a lie to reveal those secrets for a pittance.

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:39:00 No.13155038 Report

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:42:01 No.13155052 Report

Quoted By: >>13155063 >>13155092 >>13155945

It's just about good parenting, making sure your kids get their juices going from a young age.
Parents of prodigies go too far and fuck up their kids with stupid bullshit until they break.

Natural ability is a factor, but a midwit with good parents and education will be more talented than some high-potential /r9k/ 'genius' who masturbates all day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:45:42 No.13155063 Report

Quoted By: >>13155070

>>13155052
>will be more talented
id assume you mean better at achieving good results withing the western education system

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:45:53 No.13155065 Report

Quoted By: >>13155080 >>13155092 >>13155178

>>13154959
Genetic differences are very real, my dear midwit.
>>13155034
My family secret is not to accept on faith what you don't understand (it may take you some more time to get what others just accept, but that will help you to solve some problems others find unsolvable) this secret helped me to become a rather powerful scientist, but it's counter-productive for scientific career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebqAH5mLZNk

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:45:58 No.13155067 Report

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>>13154959
Yes and no. I have a “natural talent” for anything math related because I was in a competitive math club thing from 7-14 years old and spent hundreds and hundreds of hours practicing and competing nationally. I never studied for any college mathematics as a result.
It’s usually a lot of time spent practicing in childhood that pays off forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:46:54 No.13155070 Report

Quoted By: >>13155078

>>13155063
Better at most things in life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:47:09 No.13155074 Report

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>>13154959
Once you get to phd level, nothing comes naturally. Unless you are not really doing research in hard sciences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:48:59 No.13155078 Report

Quoted By: >>13155088 >>13155093 >>13155948

>>13155070
then no
midwits are miserable creatures no matter what
if i had to choose between giving away my edge in raw intelligence or giving away my stable upbringing i would give away the latter every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:49:15 No.13155080 Report

Quoted By: >>13155083

>>13155065
My family secret is to treat people very well so they think they can trust you, and then sell shit to them at exorbitant prices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:50:00 No.13155083 Report

Quoted By: >>13155097

>>13155080
shalom

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:50:17 No.13155088 Report

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>>13155078
Go back to fapping then. I'm sure all your unused "potential" will give you fulfillment.

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:50:18 No.13155089 Report

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Talented kids (not hyperspergs) get fucked over around 3rd year university age.
I never learned how to work hard or study until the train hit me and I got fucked. Managed to pull myself together, but it wasn't pleasant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:50:51 No.13155092 Report

Quoted By: >>13155114

>>13154959
Yes, some what. But also no.
If you have the right fundamentals or maybe you took the class in highschool, you can seem to others like you are picking it up really fast.
>>13155052
Like this, even in highschool, if your parents helped you read or worked on your times table a lot the next class lvl will be easy.
>>13154991
>>13155065
But yes, some people are just slower

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:51:01 No.13155093 Report

Quoted By: >>13155111 >>13155122

>>13155078
What good is intelligence if you're a loser with no accomplishments?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:51:19 No.13155097 Report

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>>13155083
I'm Mexican, but my family does have very big noses and my grandmother had frizzy hair, so there might be something to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:53:04 No.13155110 Report

Quoted By: >>13155130 >>13155151

>>13155088
lmao seething midwit
i just told you i had both but if i had to give away one it would be my stable upbringing

have fun wasting all your freetime learning shit you subhuman trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:53:04 No.13155111 Report

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>>13155093
das right! get back to studying you fuckin nerd!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:53:25 No.13155114 Report

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>>13155092
>if your parents helped you read or worked on your times table a lot the next class lvl will be easy
My parents never helped me at anything.
I would never ask my dad since he'd scream at me, and my mom wasn't very educated.
Everyone thought I was just some run of the mill average retard until I got into the math olympiads at 17.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:54:55 No.13155122 Report

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>>13155093
the true secret is that people on r9k are just lazy midwits
i had a chaotic household and i still got my masters degree without putting in much effort
plus i dont even need to work anyways because i was also smart enough to start etherum mining in 2016

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:54:57 No.13155123 Report

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Good parents is a massive benefit.
I tutor my sister now since she started school and she is doing much much better than I did. She's in all the top classes and gets a lot of opportunities.
Vs I was in most of the bottom classes and didn't get any opportunities, due to simply not doing ANY school work and not being pushed.
Now as an adult I've had to work my ass off even get to a undergraduate level in most subjects.

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:55:10 No.13155125 Report

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>>13154959
I did that for most of my life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:56:03 No.13155130 Report

Quoted By: >>13155143 >>13155154

>>13155110
You're still young. Your intelligence will start to decay, and you'll have squandered everything. There's no coming back from that.

Intelligence is a young man's game, experience take precedent in your 30s. Otherwise you just become a fat pedophile communist internet commentator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:57:57 No.13155143 Report

Quoted By: >>13155157

>>13155130
>Your intelligence will start to decay
yours will as well and remember
i did have a stable upbringing and good education just like you claim is the key to success

did you make this thread to seethe at people smarter than you?

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:59:11 No.13155151 Report

Quoted By: >>13155160 >>13155208

>>13155110
>seething midwit
No, I'm not a midwit. I'm not a mega genius, but I'm a comfortable 135 IQ.
Except I actually have many achievements, because I bust my balls everyday studying like a motherfucker.
I despise all the idiots online who think they deserve things because of who they are (be it race, IQ or nationality), instead of because of actual work. I will work my way to grind every "smart but lazy" badtard's bones to dust. I do s much as possible to make sure that any of them that I meet have horrible lives.

Have fun dying with no one beside you, lazy faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 03:59:19 No.13155154 Report

Quoted By: >>13155180

>>13155130
>Intelligence is a young man's game
citation needed

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:00:17 No.13155157 Report

Quoted By: >>13155168

>>13155143
I don't know much about you, but you probably failed to learn hard work and ambition. Your upbringing is probably a part of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:01:08 No.13155160 Report

Quoted By: >>13155208

>>13155151
i am married awaiting first child you seething midwit faggot
and no, having a somewhat better result on your uni midterms isnt worth wasting my freetime to me
seems like you are projecting with the "have fun dying alone" shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:02:09 No.13155168 Report

Quoted By: >>13155186

>>13155157
so you did make this thread to seethe at people who are better than you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:04:32 No.13155178 Report

Quoted By: >>13155225

>>13155065
It's counter-productive to any type of rat-race profession which is most white-collar work including academia.

Whatever you discover, keep it a secret. Write your discovery in a analog notebook. Do not as much, type out a quote on your PC. Pass down your knowledge to your descendants and remember to keep it a secret.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:04:54 No.13155180 Report

Quoted By: >>13155196 >>13155208

>>13155154
Nobody is going to come to an masturbating internet genius with nothing to his name for advice on anything, when the alternative is old guys with 30 years experience and a doctorate. That's just how people are.

Intelligence helps you stand out as a young man, and you build experience from there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:05:58 No.13155186 Report

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>>13155168
I'm not OP, but define better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:08:00 No.13155196 Report

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>>13155180
but i am doing my phd right now and im only 26
do you really think you are that special because you sacrificed every prospect of a social and romantic life for uni?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:09:48 No.13155208 Report

Quoted By: >>13155217

>>13155151
>>13155160
>>13155180
You don't need to have a lot of achievements in your early-mid 20s, but you do have to have a lot of learning and development while your brain is still growing.
Learning something new at 25-30 is harder than learning it at 15-25. And then it gets harder from other.
The other consideration, is that the longer you are an adult and living independently, the more chance you have to fuckup and make mistakes, potentially harming future prospects.
Imo if you're on this website, you are one of those people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:12:26 No.13155217 Report

Quoted By: >>13155223

>>13155208
thats bullshit
i was really good at maths during early collage why i needed it but now doing my phd i have almost no fucking clue how to do those thing i aced back then anymore

if you are talking about school specifically then i would heavily diagree

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:16:21 No.13155223 Report

Quoted By: >>13155229

>>13155217
uhhhh
Listen real slow mate.
If you have learned it before, when you try to relearn it in 5 years it will be easier.

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:17:32 No.13155225 Report

Quoted By: >>13155251

>>13155178
I did that for a couple of decades (wanting to share it only when the goal of the quest is finished) but then I was sorta forced to share it and suddenly... nobody fucking cares.

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:18:09 No.13155229 Report

Quoted By: >>13155250

>>13155223
probably yes but it still doesnt count as an aquired skill if you cannot reproduce it 5 years later imo

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:24:54 No.13155250 Report

Quoted By: >>13155262

>>13155229
>>13155229
which is why you need to refresh it every now and then.
Just like riding a bike.
But each time you refresh it will get easier and easier until it's very trivial to remember.
If you're still having problems, and it's math related, then you clearly never understood it well enough to begin with. Perhaps you need to go back and derive some things prove it to yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:24:59 No.13155251 Report

Quoted By: >>13155269

>>13155225
>t. Glow
>goal of the quest is finished
Tell me how I know you're not a researcher, kys

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:28:47 No.13155262 Report

Quoted By: >>13155272

>>13155250
why would i do that?
i dont need that kind of math for my phd or future work its just something that occured to me when trying to help my younger brother with his math shit

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:30:29 No.13155269 Report

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>>13155251
I'm not a native speaker, that's all, now kys my ass.

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 04:32:02 No.13155272 Report

Quoted By: >>13155349

>>13155262
if you're in any hard science field going for the PhD and you don't think you will be using at least undergraduate level mathematics, then you're definitely not worth listening to.

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 05:04:24 No.13155349 Report

Quoted By: >>13155352 >>13155441

>>13155272
not at least
a am usesing a lot of higher mathmatics but i kept using those all throught my academic career whilst that retarded vector shit i just aced and then forgot

of course you could have guessed that its something like that if you really have "le 30 years of experience and a doctorate" but something tells me you are just a seething undergrad that is mad other people are having fun during collage and still pass their exams

Boswell

Boswell Wed 19 May 2021 05:05:26 No.13155352 Report

Quoted By: >>13155441

>>13155349
>seething undergrad that is mad other people are having fun during collage and still pass their exams
many such cases
SAD!

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 05:34:15 No.13155441 Report

Quoted By: >>13155857 >>13155870

>>13155349
>a am usesing a lot of higher mathmatics but i kept using those all throught my academic career whilst that retarded vector shit i just aced and then forgot
I can understand that English is not your first language, but this doesn't make sense logically.
Linear Algebra "vector shit?" is used everywhere. Not sure what you mean by not using it.
How do you use a lot of higher mathematics without touching vectors again? what?
What is your PhD in?
I don't believe you could be "using a lot of higher level mathematics" and not know simpler things.
>>13155352
Go away name fag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 05:39:25 No.13155460 Report

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>>13154959
ease of acquiring a skill is due to having some other past skill or experience to make you pick it up faster

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 08:03:21 No.13155857 Report

Quoted By: >>13155870

>>13155441
>What is your PhD in?
a hybird degree between econ and electrical engi
basically i am figuring out at what point renewables make sense financially whilst at the same time reseaching how one could make them self sufficient (IE no subsidies necessary) on a technical level

Boswell

Boswell Wed 19 May 2021 08:06:02 No.13155870 Report

Quoted By: >>13155910 >>13155920

>>13155441
seething retard
>>13155857
and at what point do they

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Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 08:15:30 No.13155910 Report

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>>13155870
they kinda dont
best bet is to place wind turbines on the windyest part of the ocean and even then its a gamble if they break before they pay off

my studies conclueded that the best part where you could save money would be the intermediate battery by cutting it completely and having a collective battery per 10 or so windmills that however is quite shitty for a wide variety of reasons

should have just done something about nuclear like i wanted but my leftist uni wanted me to do renewables

Boswell

Boswell Wed 19 May 2021 08:17:44 No.13155920 Report

Quoted By: >>13155931

>>13155870
>should have just done something about nuclear like i wanted but my leftist uni wanted me to do renewables
many such cases

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 08:20:59 No.13155931 Report

Quoted By: >>13155946

>>13155920
>retarded namefag spams the same joke over and over
many such cases

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 08:23:27 No.13155942 Report

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>>13154959
Yes and no. It is a meme in the sense that, whoever you are, you do need to work a lot if you want to excel (not coast, but *really* excel) at anything.
However, it is true that some people get more out of the time they spend working than others. I guess that is one way you can define talent in an area: the speed at which you can build skill (however you measure it) in that area

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 08:23:57 No.13155945 Report

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>>13155052
This. Every time I see fuckups (including myself) I see bad parenting especially from the dad's side
My father prided himself over never being with me, at every family meeting he literally boasts how he would never take me fishing never played sports, with me, never took me anywhere, so the reason I turned out retarded had to have been my (now dead) mother

Boswell

Boswell Wed 19 May 2021 08:24:23 No.13155946 Report

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>>13155931
SAD!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 08:25:30 No.13155948 Report

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>>13155078
This post made my dick soft.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 May 2021 09:26:31 No.13156164 Report

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>>13154959
No.

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