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Anonymous Mon 17 May 17:37:44 2021 No.13146428 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13146432 >>13146495 >>13146628 >>13146645

why do mathematical patterns and structures even exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 17:38:34 No.13146432 Report

Quoted By: >>13146449

>>13146428
Why do things exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 17:41:11 No.13146449 Report

Quoted By: >>13146456

>>13146432
can things exist without obeying laws that are mathematical in nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 17:42:32 No.13146456 Report

Quoted By: >>13146465

>>13146449
Can things exist without existing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 17:44:04 No.13146465 Report

Quoted By: >>13146477

>>13146456
Can things exist without existing?
math says they can't
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_noncontradiction

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 17:46:06 No.13146477 Report

Quoted By: >>13146504

>>13146465
There you have it then

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 17:49:08 No.13146495 Report

Quoted By: >>13146500

>>13146428
They just do lol idk. It's kinda cool how math would be real even if there were never a universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 17:50:04 No.13146500 Report

Quoted By: >>13146527

>>13146495
>t's kinda cool how math would be real even if there were never a universe
It wouldn't be real because there wouldn't be people to study it

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Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 17:50:25 No.13146504 Report

Quoted By: >>13146517

>>13146477
Why is it that way, then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 17:52:47 No.13146517 Report

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>>13146504
I am that I am

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Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 17:54:18 No.13146527 Report

Quoted By: >>13146537

>>13146500
maybe math cannot exist without universe and universe cannot exist without math.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 17:56:45 No.13146537 Report

Quoted By: >>13146595

>>13146527
It's just a language describing the universe, the way it is. If you take away the language the universe still exists, is you take away the things the language is describing then it's not the universe you're describing.

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Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 18:08:43 No.13146595 Report

Quoted By: >>13146623

>>13146537
>If you take away the language the universe still exists
can universe exist without adhering to rules that can be expressed in some form of language? Why this language has structures and patterns?

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Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 18:12:56 No.13146623 Report

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>>13146595
The universe exists because it can be described, or rather since it can be described it exists. Take away one or the other and the whole structure collapses

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 18:14:12 No.13146628 Report

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>>13146428
They don't, your mind is constructing them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 17 May 2021 18:17:28 No.13146645 Report

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>>13146428
I am not an euphoric mathematicist like Tegmark, but logic and math are indeed the kernel from which physics could develop. Without these, reality would just be eternal noise. The anthrophic principle applies.

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