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Anonymous Mon 10 May 15:40:41 2021 No.13109781 View Reply Original Report

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What's some Bostrom core every anon should read? Books about AI, futurism and transhumanism (the normal kind) that would help to get ready for the inevitable singularity promised by sci fi writers and scientists alike.

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 18:58:30 No.13110440 Report

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not science

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:16:14 No.13110512 Report

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Yudkowsky's Sequences

https://www.readthesequences.com/

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:17:01 No.13110515 Report

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The Hedonistic Imperative

https://www.hedweb.com/
https://www.abolitionist.com/

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:17:33 No.13110517 Report

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Mind Children

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:19:31 No.13110525 Report

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>>13110440
>futurism and transhumanism isn't science
You're retarded

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:21:51 No.13110535 Report

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>>13110525
> the inevitable singularity promised by sci fi writers
Just go consoom dime a dozen youtube popsci videos.

>>13110525
>muh singularity
pic related

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:23:40 No.13110537 Report

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Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How

https://files.catbox.moe/d5i9g0.pdf

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:39:11 No.13110587 Report

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Anatoly Karlin's article "A Short History of the Third Millennium" is worth reading.

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/short-history-of-3rd-millennium/

>(1) (a) Direct Technosingularity - 25%, if Kurzweil/MIRI/DeepMind are correct, with a probability peak around 2045, and most likely to be implemented via neural networks (Lin & Tegmark, 2016).

>(2) The Age of Em - <1%, since we cannot obtain functional models even of 40 year old microchips from scanning them, to say nothing of biological organisms (Jonas & Kording, 2016)

>(3) (a) Biosingularity to Technosingularity - 50%, since the genomics revolution is just getting started and governments are unlikely to either want to, let alone be successful at, rigorously suppressing it. And if AGI is harder than the optimists say, and will take considerably longer than mid-century to develop, then it's a safe bet that IQ-augmented humans will come to play a critical role in eventually developing it. I would put the probability peak for a technosingularity from a biosingularity at around 2100.

>(3) (b) Direct Biosingularity - 5%, if we decide that proceeding with AGI is too risky, or that consciousness both has cardinal inherent value and is only possible with a biological substrate.

>(4) Eschaton - 10%, of which: (a) Philosophical existential risks - 5%; (b) Malevolent AGI - 1%; (c) Other existential risks, primarily technological ones: 4%.

>(5) The Age of Malthusian Industrialism - 10%, with about even odds on whether we manage to launch the technosingularity the second time round.

This article on the feasibility of transhumanist techs is also worth reading:

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/transhumanist-techs/

Here are some of Karlin's other articles on futurism:
https://akarlin.com/archive/#Futurism

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:39:58 No.13110593 Report

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>>13110587
The Katechon Hypothesis is also worth reading:

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/katechon/

>Abstract: A corollary of the Simulation Argument is that the universe’s computational capacity may be limited. Consequently, advanced alien civilizations may have incentives to avoid space colonization to avoid taking up too much “calculating space” and forcing a simulation shutdown. A possible solution to the Fermi Paradox is that analogous considerations may drive them to avoid broadcasting their presence to the cosmos, and to attempt to destroy or permanently cripple emerging civilizations on sight. This game-theoretical equilibrium could be interpreted as the “katechon” – that which withholds eschaton – doom, oblivion, the end of the world. The resulting state of mutually assured xenocide would result in a dark, seemingly empty universe intermittently populated by small, isolationist “hermit” civilizations.

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:43:07 No.13110614 Report

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>>13110537
Hmm who is going to win, the side with next level sci-fi powers or monke primitivists.

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:44:57 No.13110626 Report

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>>13110535
>the inevitable singularity promised by sci fi writers
The singularity is inevitable, but it almost certainly won't be the singularity promised by sci-fi writers.

>that pic
Kurzweil is a retard, but there are other singularitarians/futurists who are more thorough and less optimistic than Kurzweil is.

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:45:28 No.13110629 Report

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 19:50:17 No.13110661 Report

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>>13110614
Even though the primitivists will never win, Kaczynski still makes some good points on how it's almost impossible to rationally control the evolution of civilization and how the immortality sought by people like Ray Kurzweil is a pipe dream.

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 23:41:53 No.13111685 Report

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>>13110512
>Yudkowsky
lol

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Anonymous Tue 11 May 2021 00:10:29 No.13111809 Report

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>>13110587
>I put fake percentages on my predictions out of my ass. Hence, it's science!

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