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Anonymous Mon 10 May 12:37:33 2021 No.13109075 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13109127 >>13109145 >>13109173 >>13109225 >>13109259 >>13109323 >>13109327 >>13109350 >>13109406 >>13109551 >>13109573

Is there something more imaginary than complex numbers? i.e we say that ?-1 doesn't exist but cool stuff happens if it does, what about things like 1/0, going past infinity, a statement that is neither true nor false etc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 12:46:19 No.13109127 Report

Quoted By: >>13109267

>>13109075
Metric completion is pretty based desu. It's a litmus test for retardation on /sci/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 12:49:55 No.13109145 Report

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>>13109075
Im convinced sex is imaginary

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 12:55:26 No.13109173 Report

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>>13109075
>statement that is neither true nor false etc?
Congratulations, you just invented multivalued logic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:09:05 No.13109225 Report

Quoted By: >>13109238 >>13109323

>>13109075
Maybe you can invent a number x for which x =/= x, that would be cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:12:46 No.13109238 Report

Quoted By: >>13109267 >>13109272 >>13109378

>>13109225
0.999999999... =/= 1.0

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:21:08 No.13109259 Report

Quoted By: >>13109266

>>13109075
Retards talk about complex numbers like it's something special and algebra like it's simple. But people who know a little math talk about algebra like it's something special and complex numbers like it's simple.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:23:16 No.13109266 Report

Quoted By: >>13109284

>>13109259
wow you are so special and complex, anon. Can I be your gf?

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Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:23:54 No.13109267 Report

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>>13109238
See >>13109127.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:26:23 No.13109272 Report

Quoted By: >>13109304 >>13109323

>>13109238
Ah well, I see that this has been done already.
Maybe a better try: invent a number x for which there is no number y with y = x.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:29:19 No.13109284 Report

Quoted By: >>13109319

>>13109266
Fuck you, it's true. There are literally hundreds of structures more interesting than the complex numbers, and they're all just particular cases in algebra.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:35:14 No.13109304 Report

Quoted By: >>13109323

>>13109272
This one is also easy. If y=x then y-x=0.
Let x=infinity. There is no y equal to x because infinity-infinity is undefined so x-y =/= 0 and x =/= y.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:38:44 No.13109319 Report

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>>13109284
I suspect you two anons are not talking the same language.
Muricans think that solving an equation like 3x-2=0 for x is the essence of "algebra".
Educated parts of the world think of algebra as the theory of algebraic structures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:39:25 No.13109323 Report

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>>13109075
>>13109225
>>13109272
>>13109304
ITT: down syndrome third graders try to do maths.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:40:11 No.13109327 Report

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>>13109075
>i.e we say that ?-1 doesn't exist but cool stuff happens if it does
who says that? you?

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TrnsRt !!dvpvWfstmMf Mon 10 May 2021 13:47:38 No.13109350 Report

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>>13109075
>?-1
All numbers are imaginary anyway so why can't this imaginary number exist? Does it break your special snowflake rules or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:53:22 No.13109378 Report

Quoted By: >>13109389

>>13109238
Uh. Yes it does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 13:56:44 No.13109389 Report

Quoted By: >>13109632

>>13109378
That was the point. It is a number x for which x =/= x. Same number on both sides of the =/=.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 14:02:06 No.13109406 Report

Quoted By: >>13109418 >>13109425 >>13109427 >>13109479

>>13109075
Every number is a complex number.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 14:05:19 No.13109418 Report

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>>13109406
Even the number 2 in the field F_3?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 14:07:54 No.13109425 Report

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>>13109406
No. It depends of your encodings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 14:09:00 No.13109427 Report

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>>13109406
define number

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 14:21:45 No.13109479 Report

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>>13109406
ur mum is a complex number

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 14:39:24 No.13109551 Report

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>>13109075
>We say sqrt(-1) doesn't exist
Except it DOES exist. Math simply describes physical systems, so imaginary numbers describe a part of the physical system.

>This is a reminder calculus was developed in order to describe physics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 14:45:55 No.13109573 Report

Quoted By: >>13109584

>>13109075
One thing you need to understand about mathematics is that it needs to be consistent to work. Any new axiom or definition that leads to contradictions instantly breaks math. Truth and falsehood lose their meaning and doing any kind of reasoning becomes impossible. Introducing square root of negative one leads to a consistent theory, so we can do it. Giving a definite value to 1/0 would lead to contradictions, so we can't do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 14:49:15 No.13109584 Report

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>>13109573
>Introducing square root of negative one leads to a consistent theory
*consistent theory where the usual rules of arithmetics hold (well, most of them)
>Giving a definite value to 1/0 would lead to contradictions
*giving a definite value to 1/0 and assuming that usual rules of arithmetics hold

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 15:03:06 No.13109632 Report

Quoted By: >>13109806

>>13109389
But that means the =\= isnt true

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 15:44:16 No.13109799 Report

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Hou really should not open this topic. You are young, playful, everything's easy for you. This is an another thing. It's not Snowden and not even secret services archives. Better not to get into that. Seriously, any of you would deeply regret. Close the topic and forget what was written here. I fully understand that this post incites additional interest, but I far the curious - stop. The rest will just not see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 15:46:16 No.13109806 Report

Quoted By: >>13109929

>>13109632
It is true for x if x=/= x.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 May 2021 16:18:03 No.13109929 Report

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>>13109806
But x =\= x isnt true in this case. Are you mentally ill or smthing?

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