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when sabine sued motl

Anonymous Wed 05 May 05:11:15 2021 No.13078581 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13078616 >>13078643 >>13078657 >>13078742

what ever happened with this? hossenfelder tried to sue motl at one point but both of them declined to comment. any ideas?

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Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 05:24:07 No.13078616 Report

Quoted By: >>13078633

>>13078581
who?

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Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 05:34:23 No.13078633 Report

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>>13078616
>who?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 05:41:01 No.13078643 Report

Quoted By: >>13078645 >>13078773 >>13079488

>>13078581

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 05:42:10 No.13078645 Report

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>>13078643
Whatever happened to Randy Quaid?

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Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 05:46:11 No.13078657 Report

Quoted By: >>13078677 >>13078690 >>13078790 >>13080371

>>13078581
Who's the better physicist? Both seem very intelligent.
As far as I've heard Motl published a few results sometime ago and has spent the last 15 years whining about liberals and defending the Bogdanoffs.
Sabine has published 2 pop-sci books and is an active researcher at the Frankfurt Institute (no, not the jewish-tranny one).
Sabine honestly seems like the mental superior of the two.

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Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:01:44 No.13078677 Report

Quoted By: >>13078700 >>13078742

>>13078657
> Sabine honestly seems like the mental superior of the two.
this is your brain on s o y

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Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:07:56 No.13078690 Report

Quoted By: >>13078694

>>13078657
they're both the janetty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:09:49 No.13078694 Report

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>>13078690
wut

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:11:36 No.13078700 Report

Quoted By: >>13078712 >>13078718 >>13078742

>>13078677
She currently has a job at a highly competitive position.
Motl hasn't done shit in years.
Achievements wise, Sabine has more to show for her credentials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:17:09 No.13078712 Report

Quoted By: >>13078729 >>13078742 >>13080377

>>13078700
research-wise motl has made much bigger contributions and despite his long absence still has a much higher h-index.

sabine’s current employment is basically a “we need more women in physics” position since her research output is basically nothing—all she has done in the last decade is make review articles on dead end fields.

read her book. she admits that Joe Polchinski told her she was stupid

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Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:18:20 No.13078718 Report

Quoted By: >>13078742

>>13078700
Getting an AA placement is not an achievement. What are her scientific achievements (not co-authorships).

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Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:22:05 No.13078729 Report

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>>13078712
>research-wise motl has made much bigger contributions and despite his long absence still has a much higher h-index.
>"Motl worked on the pp-wave"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luboš_Motl

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:28:46 No.13078740 Report

Quoted By: >>13079328

>>13078729
your point being?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:29:35 No.13078742 Report

Quoted By: >>13078752

>>13078581
>>13078677
>>13078700
>>13078712
>>13078718
I checked, Sabine has a higher long and short term h-index.

Motl:
Citations 3258 1017
h-index 18 8

Sabine:

Citations 3502 1555
h-index 29 17

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:37:03 No.13078752 Report

Quoted By: >>13078761

>>13078742
Also looking into it she does have more review papers, but also more first authorships that Motl.

It should further be noted that neither of them have their name on one of those modern hyper papers with thousands of authors for experimental results (which, btw is not considered ethical under DFG and EU guidelines, but CERN does anyway, fuck CERN).

They are both decent, if political, researchers and Hossenfelder is better than Motl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:43:12 No.13078761 Report

Quoted By: >>13078769

>>13078752
i can tell that you don't know what you are talking about easily, since you think theorists would be expected to have their names on experimental papers? you clearly know nothing about this field anon.

anyway, whatever computer-computed h-index numbers you are quoting are probably bullshit.

motl co-authored at least a couple of papers with Nima Arkani-Hamed who is one of the celebrities inside the physics world. his advisor was Tom Banks, one of the most respected M-theorists. Motl served as a professor at Harvard.

Sabine did jack shit, honestly.

stop sucking her dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:49:27 No.13078768 Report

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>scientific dick measuring contest
And I thought my life was empty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:49:37 No.13078769 Report

Quoted By: >>13078779

>>13078761
My experimental comment was an aside. I don't know who either of those people are, all that matters to me is that my own h-index is higher.

I'll suck my own dick you faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:53:05 No.13078773 Report

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>>13078643
LOL I see the resemblance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:54:45 No.13078779 Report

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>>13078769
>t. undergrad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 06:59:52 No.13078790 Report

Quoted By: >>13078811

>>13078657
Motl is smarter but he's a total cunt and he's also held back by his own tunnel vision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 07:10:30 No.13078811 Report

Quoted By: >>13078948

>>13078790
true. even so i would like to know about how his legal battle with hossebfeldsr turned out

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 08:22:14 No.13078948 Report

Quoted By: >>13079508

>>13078811
What is the legal battle even about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 11:14:54 No.13079321 Report

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BOSS HOSS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 11:18:55 No.13079328 Report

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>>13078740
pp (pee-pee)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 12:29:17 No.13079488 Report

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>>13078643
>her on top
>him on his stomach
Kino.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 12:40:58 No.13079508 Report

Quoted By: >>13079523

>>13078948
Motl is a huge sperg who repeatedly insulted her and her family in his blog without considering that the EU does have defamation laws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 12:46:20 No.13079523 Report

Quoted By: >>13079544

>>13079508
>insulted
Defamation means libel (i.e. untrue) though, you can insult anyone without consequence in Europe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 12:55:57 No.13079544 Report

Quoted By: >>13079776

>>13079523
https://www.hollywoodlanews.com/sabine-hossenfelder-physicist-lubos-motl-blogger/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 14:08:50 No.13079776 Report

Quoted By: >>13079802 >>13079812 >>13080405

>>13079544
Lol, does she think 10k is real money? Anyway she doesn't have a case, he doesn't say anything provably untrue about her.

That's why there's no comment and no update, because there's no case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 14:17:49 No.13079802 Report

Quoted By: >>13079818 >>13080151

>>13079776
Motl did purge his blog and might have toned down his rethoric now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 14:20:07 No.13079812 Report

Quoted By: >>13079818

>>13079776
lubos was panicking over the 10k

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 14:21:04 No.13079818 Report

Quoted By: >>13079860

>>13079802
>>13079812
Lol what a beta. He's the kinda fag I always thought he was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 14:30:42 No.13079860 Report

Quoted By: >>13079932

>>13079818
It's not unreasonable, Europe isn't the US. Your lawyer isn't going to recommend you to keep sperging.
https://twitter.com/lumidek/status/1106610644562763776

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 14:52:03 No.13079932 Report

Quoted By: >>13080410

>>13079860
>Europe isn't the US.
No you are right it isn't. Proving libel in Europe is way harder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 15:41:50 No.13080151 Report

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>>13079802
>Motl did purge his blog
wow, i didn’t realize that he caved. boo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 16:27:26 No.13080371 Report

Quoted By: >>13080413 >>13080431

>>13078657
Lumo is clearly superior. Sabine just publishes pseudoscience that gets cites from gullible frauds, Lubosh actually does real physics, though he doesn't publish anymore because the physics community cancelled him, which is a shame.
Can you point to a single significant piece of research Bee has done? Lubosh created matrix string theory and (jointly) came up with the weak gravity conjecture.

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Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 16:29:49 No.13080377 Report

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>>13078712
>she admits that Joe Polchinski told her she was stupid
I didn't know that, but Joe, God rest his soul, was an anxious and genial man, so for him to call you stupid you must really be pretty fucking thick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 16:36:08 No.13080405 Report

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>>13079776
>he doesn't say anything provably untrue about her.
That would be relevant in America, but not much of Europe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 16:36:46 No.13080410 Report

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>>13079932
You have that backwards. Proving libel is harder in America than in Europe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 16:36:52 No.13080413 Report

Quoted By: >>13081238

>>13080371
>because the physics community cancelled him
that’s not true. he left of his own volition. he had job offers but for some reason he burned out or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 16:38:50 No.13080431 Report

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>>13080371
>Sabine just publishes pseudoscience
>Lubosh actually does real physics
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 18:41:01 No.13081238 Report

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>>13080413
He saw where the career would lead I don't blame him. By the time we get to late career they will ban white males getting director positions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 May 2021 18:50:20 No.13081298 Report

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Motl's ego is much bigger than his IQ. He gets some things right (about quantum gravity / string theory), but outside his narrow expertise he is pretty much a crackpot.

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