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Science and philosophy go hand in hand.

Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 05:21:37 2021 No.13003665 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>13003677 >>13003822

In terms of the universe whether we're alive or not won't change a damn thing and this is true. So logically wouldnt it be; Is human life disposable? Yes.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 05:26:41 No.13003677 Report

Quoted By: >>13003692

>>13003665
They aren't separate things at all. If you're just learning what people teach you then that's one thing but doing science is supposed to be about breaking boundaries fundamentally which is literally just doing philosophy.

Also disposable is nonsense. There's no realistic term that applies it. It's a purely human concept like cold or dark. Humans are as humans are and a framework which can account for them and growth is one that'll probably account for a lot of physical phenomena.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 05:36:52 No.13003692 Report

Quoted By: >>13003700

>>13003677
I didn't say they were seperate ): I said they go hand in hand in the premise that they're similar.
And what i'm understanding from what you're saying is that life is just a product of a framework that supports life and whatever else it supports. And that whether life is disposable is simply a constructed concept. Wild way of thinking of it, I haven't thought of it like that but since the concept EXISTS THERE MUST BE AN ANSWER. And the answer is yes.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 05:40:49 No.13003700 Report

Quoted By: >>13003759

>>13003692
I mean you necessarily do science like you do philosophy. It's like calling 38 degrees something different from 100 degrees but science has sociologically become its own being

And sure but the concept refers to a concept that can't account for humans. It's like having a math system that can account for everything except 3+5. It's just a bad framework

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Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 06:17:08 No.13003759 Report

Quoted By: >>13003795 >>13003809

>>13003700
What do you mean it can't account for humans? If life is disposable then so are humans.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 06:40:53 No.13003795 Report

Quoted By: >>13003802

>>13003759
Sure but not to us they aren’t.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 06:44:29 No.13003802 Report

Quoted By: >>13003809

>>13003795
Humans exist. There's some framework that accounts for them being created. It would be odd to suggest a framework of the universe accounted for their existence and that framework suddenly disappeared. Pragmatically that means truth is good universally and we can work in the proper universal framework to solve our problems while solving fundamental ones. We don't have to dispose of, or be agnostic about, humans to study physics in its entirety. We in fact know more about humans the more fundamental we solve ethics etc.

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Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 06:46:27 No.13003809 Report

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>>13003802
This was replying to >>13003759

If you solve the fundamental aspects then the derivatives are naturally solved. There's no "avoid a derivative to solve the fundamental".

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Anonymous Tue 20 Apr 2021 06:54:18 No.13003822 Report

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>>13003665
It depends.

Yes and no, aren't really true.

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