>>12987545>>12987545I got a good chuckle out of the irony Hofstadter surrounded himself with in G.E.B and "I am a strange loop".
The realization is something I came to before I discovered his work but man, does he not kind of miss the point in such a revelation?
He is able to identify this system of self-referencing and yet still tries to explain it, it's as if he missed the entire point of such a realization.
You, or "I", a self referencing feedback loop, trying to explain that it is a self referencing feedback loop.
The act of trying to understand it, IS the very system you're trying to understand at work.
If we take the our sense of "I" as an emergent property of self-referencing, then anything we can say about it, is merely the product of that same referencing system at work.
Information at its core is inherently self-referential. You can't say anything about anything unless you are talking about it as in relation to another thing.
At the end of the day there isn't anything to say. You can pretend you understand this system and get caught up in physics, mathematics, philosophy etc. but at that point you've already missed it. You are just generating your own information and putting it on a pedestal.
What remains when you take away the self-referencing? Everything and nothing. For they spring forth from another.