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CS Hate

Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 00:53:53 2021 No.12967016 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12967097

If you're still undecided about your major/ underage, dont choose CS as your major
If you like tinkering with things, go with robotics or electrical
If you like theory, choose math
If you like data, go with stats/ data science (meme degree but at least has a focus)
DONT go with CS, if you like coding just get a bunch of CS certs and make a startup.
I'm not at a top 10 school, but the average new CS grad salary at my school is north of 85k, but everyone is incredibly retarded. Employers are going to realize this and the value of CS degrees are going to fucking plummet
You'll have to spend 4 years of your life with some of the most parasitic bugs, and they'll drain you of your life
Some shit I've dealt with in graduate/senior level classes:
>Cant manage git without an IDE, still only force pushes repos
>Spend a whole semester on a parser, had 0 tests, 0 error handling
>People who can't figure out how to MOVE LINES OF CODE, not even in vim or anything
>People who can't follow a basic research paper
>People who can't figure out how to get things from a list
>People who unironically can't understand sets
>People who can't understand pointers 3/4 into a C course
Run away if you can, the wages might look good but we all know its going to dry up soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 01:21:42 No.12967097 Report

Quoted By: >>12967301

>>12967016
>Employers are going to realize this and the value of CS degrees are going to fucking plummet
People here have been saying this for the last 15ish years and it still hasn't happened.
Either way
>muh entry level software is CS
if you go to any program in the top 25, CS is an easy yes. Otherwise, sure CS undergrad has lax requirements. But this is more or less the same with math - if you want to do honors and grad classes, you can go hard. The major doesn't force you to do it. But at any decent school, you can go hard.
Also, I don't understand where this muh coding meme started.
>muh IDE and git
you learn to use command line by yourself in comp arch for projects and some recitations
>whole semester on parser
we spent 2 weeks on a parser project and then moved on to other topics like dealing with IR and register allocation problems
>muh move lines of code
not a real complaint, you can look up sequences online
>can't read basic research
most people are not equipped to read any nontrivial research paper in their fields. What do we mean by basic here?
>can't figure out how to get things from a list
calling bullshit here
>can't understand sets
to what degree? Never saw a CS major who couldn't do naive set theory. we're not asking them to learn descriptive set theory
>can't understand pointers
this fucking meme needs to die. it's part of comp arch. everyone struggles with pointers for a week / project and then never again. It's not that hard.

All in all you sound like a /g/ faggot who wanted their program to teach them how to sling lucida console like a codemonkey, not actually teach them CS. Aside from basic shit like sets, all of your complaints are about software production pipelining, not actual CS or solving problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 02:14:06 No.12967301 Report

Quoted By: >>12967718

>>12967097
>you learn to use command line by yourself in comp arch for projects and some recitations
you should learn git in any moderately large team project, and you should never force push to repos anyway
>we spent 2 weeks on a parser project and then moved on to other topics like dealing with IR and register allocation problems
You're right, parsers shouldn't take a whole semester, but we're still handing degrees out to the idiots who do
>not a real complaint, you can look up sequences online
I mean move lines of code as in "hey you need to move line 25 down 3 lines", same kind of shit anyone who's touched a word processor should be able to do. Again, they're still gonna get their degree
>>can't figure out how to get things from a list
>calling bullshit here
I fucking wish, you have no idea how many teammates I get who can't do this simple shit
>to what degree? Never saw a CS major who couldn't do naive set theory. we're not asking them to learn descriptive set theory
I mean basic union and intersection type stuff, they cant figure it out
>this fucking meme needs to die. it's part of comp arch. everyone struggles with pointers for a week / project and then never again. It's not that hard.
everyone SHOULD struggle for a week/project, but the idiots who can't somehow still are getting their degrees
the degree is becoming worth less and less as universities try to pump out more and more of them with no regard to quality.
I would agree some of my complaints are closer to software production and whatnot, except for the fact that they're extremely simple things that should take a weekend at most to understand

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Apr 2021 05:38:38 No.12967718 Report

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>>12967301
[Different person] Some of your statements are making me grateful that my school has notable "weed-out" courses. I saw someone drop out from Calc II; I saw two of my roommates drop out of CS into information science a little bit ago, and I always heard people complaining about courses that seemed not too bad. I wonder what schools are the worst when it comes to not weeding out the unqualified students?

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