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Geometric Unity

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 01:49:55 2021 No.12914376 View Reply Original Report

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Eric Weinstein published his paper on Geometric Unity today. Could someone explain and review? I'm a brainlet but it seems like a meme.

Paper PDF:
https://geometricunity.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/Geometric_Unity-Draft-April-1st-2021.pdf

Interview with Brian Keating:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFirZANoiHI

Collection of Videos in Support of Geometric Unity:
https://pullthatupjamie.com

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 01:50:33 No.12914378 Report

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>>12914376
This guy makes me sick, I can't believe what he did to those women.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 01:56:39 No.12914398 Report

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>>12914376
There’s probably 2 people on /sci who have a shot at understanding what Weinstein’s Geometric Unity is about. Can they break it down for the rest of us please?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:07:27 No.12914428 Report

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>>12914376
Looks like nonsense from a quick overview more like a journal entry. I'm looking into it more but it doesn't seem to imply anything of use

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:08:29 No.12914431 Report

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>>12914428
Gonna have to be more specific if you want to hand-wave it like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:20:36 No.12914465 Report

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>>12914398
it’s so long! i read the first few pages but will give my review once i have a day to procrastinate and not do research (hm, Good Friday is tomorrow isn’t it)

that caption right below the title page is frightening though... “This is a work of entertainment... may not be built upon by others...” wtf?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:26:17 No.12914480 Report

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>>12914431
Starting from the fourth dimension? Why? Is he arguing there only exists four or that the fourth founds the lower and upper dimensions? That should be at the start of his paper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:26:56 No.12914483 Report

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In the interview he accuses Juan Martín Maldacena of plagarizing his wife's work. Being a brainlet and not having a clue who this guy is, I look him up...

> Maldacena has made numerous discoveries in theoretical physics. Leonard Susskind called him "perhaps the greatest physicist of his generation... certainly the greatest theoretical physicist of his generation".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Mart%C3%ADn_Maldacena#Contributions_to_physics

If a top physicist like Leonard Susskind is giving this level of praise to Maldacena then I'm inclined to believe the plagarism claim is probably bullshit.

Are Brian Keating and Eric Weinstein grifters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:27:20 No.12914486 Report

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>>12914465
For copyright?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:39:45 No.12914536 Report

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Timothy Nguyen (Machine learning researcher @GoogleAI, mathematician, quantum physicist.) responded to the Gemetric Unity video last month with a paper and today he tweeted:
> Unfortunately, the paper addresses none of the technical gaps presented in our response
https://twitter.com/IAmTimNguyen/status/1377805716497440770

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:40:56 No.12914539 Report

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>>12914483
Eric has also claimed that his brother, Brett, was robbed of a noble prize by his PhD supervisor, who Eric claims plagiarized his brothers work.

I actually like bother of them, and I think they're a lot more open and honest and interesting than any other public celebrities that I can really think of, but that being said, they have engaged in some quackish/crankish behavior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:55:03 No.12914573 Report

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>>12914536
Tim Nguyen is cope and has identified no technical gaps, they have to fit GU into being in his own box prior to being able to criticize it, but it still ends up being a categorically incorrect criticism. The issues are 1. misidentification of the geometric program of GU 2. Unsubstantiated argument against the shiab operator, not backed up by any of their cited literature

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:58:08 No.12914582 Report

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>>12914398
It is a theme of mathematics to sometimes start in "fully furnished buildings" that look like familiar spaces and see what structure is recoverable. A lot of work over the last century has been put into identifying characterizing invariants of spaces (or higher things) - the program of GU is simply to see how much geometry and physics is recoverable from minimal assumptions past "spacetime exists". What exactly is the character of what it tries to recover takes background in a decent bit of 20th century Geometry, to motivate and make it seem reasonable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:58:16 No.12914583 Report

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>>12914573
Are you trolling ppl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 02:59:27 No.12914586 Report

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>>12914582
But what does that actually do? It just seems to be a claim

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:00:19 No.12914587 Report

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>>12914583
No, cf his lack of a career and interest in essential mathematical subjects

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:00:53 No.12914589 Report

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>>12914587
Maybe but those are fluff bullet points

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:01:42 No.12914593 Report

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>>12914586
This response makes no sense if you are not directly involved in mathematics

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:03:14 No.12914597 Report

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>>12914593
I mean generally. His theory is based on asserting that formalist math is cancer so I'm asking for broader implications rather than a laundry list of critiques settled and unified

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:07:09 No.12914605 Report

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>>12914597
It really isn't based on this, it's completely in the style of differential geometry actually - the consequences for both mathematics and physics are that four-geometry is the domain we understand the least about the structures that allow us to do calculus. We have techniques for three and lower, surgery and h-cobordism for 5 and higher. We know almost nothing about smooth four-geometry much less functional implications like Quantum field theories in them - we are in need of ideas to extract information from raw 4d spaces.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:07:32 No.12914607 Report

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>>12914593
>>12914597
Even more so how does he found the 4th dimension. He seems to say in pr that the first dimension is circularly fine by being well ordered but I'm not sure how that motivates him making the first be derivative of the fourth.

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El Arcón Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:08:09 No.12914608 Report

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>>12914376
ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:08:37 No.12914611 Report

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>>12914605
What does he use to traverse between his dimensions since his is foundational to them?

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Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:09:47 No.12914614 Report

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>>12914378
ikr? Like why didn't he go further?
>Every woman's complaint about her love life with every man ever

El Arcón

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El Arcón Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:12:28 No.12914620 Report

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>>12914376
This already seems derivative of Peskin on the first page. From Peskin (https://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ph/9405255.pdf):
>"Any formal discussion of spin must start from the representations of the Poincare group, the fundamental spacetime symmetry group of translations and Lorentz transformations. Any object that lives in Minkowski space must belong to some representation of the Poincare group. By constructing the simplest representations of the Poincare group, we will find that intrinsic spin appears in a natural way."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:13:41 No.12914625 Report

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>>12914611
This is a stupid question and you should study undergrad math to see what he means by dimension

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:17:19 No.12914631 Report

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>>12914625
I can traverse through mathematical dimensions in linear algebra using an inference rule. Constructing orthogonal angles creates new dimensions through already present math. It's very odd to me to assume a unifying geometry while taking the dimensions and formalist justifications as dogma.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:21:56 No.12914642 Report

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>>12914620
And Peskin is derivative of Einstein, it's turtles all the way down

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:41:20 No.12914685 Report

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why are you guys so quick to judge it? i mean it probably is wrong or useless but nobody’s read it yet. i’ll read it for fun and report back. he is a harvard math PhD so you gotta respect him more than, say, garret lisi who got his degree in biophysics, or myron evans who was a chemical engineer

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El Arcón Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:47:43 No.12914698 Report

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>>12914642
I don't think Peskin is derivative of Einstein. I use the term "derivative" in a derisive way to say "this is a rip off." Did Eric read Peskin? I have no idea but the first page of Weinstein seemed like he was restating Peskin who used the same starting point in his own "treatment of all things." The main difference is that Peskin's citation of the Poincare group seems like a better starting point than the featureless X^4 that Eric uses.

The Truth About Geometric Unity
https://vixra.org/abs/1307.0075

Also,
>kin's

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El Arcón Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:50:28 No.12914708 Report

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>>12914685
>he is a harvard math PhD
No, he is a shill of the P2 freemasons by way of his employment through Peter Thiel. Those people deserve no respect.

I will also read it and report back. I'm trying to finish this Bible study paper of mine by the ninth, and I want to publish a v2 of my recent economics paper
>On Certain Aspects of American Economics Relevant to 2021
>http://762com.com/d0cs/papers/On_Certain_Aspects_of_American_Economics_Relevant_to_2021__v1-20210301.pdf
but after that I will certainly read and dissect Eric's paper which I have been waiting for for about eight years.

El Cabrón

El Cabrón Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:52:24 No.12914711 Report

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>>12914608
Can we have Schizo Fights as a kind of sequel to bum fights?

El Cabrón

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El Cabrón Fri 02 Apr 2021 03:59:20 No.12914725 Report

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>>12914698
This is much better than your infinity hat shit, Tookie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 04:00:50 No.12914726 Report

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>>12914708
That gif is giving me time-cube vibes
I'm honeslty not sure how lucid you are right now man, so I don't know whether to trust your criticisms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 04:01:46 No.12914729 Report

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>>12914378
>?The Author is not a physicist and is no longer an active academician, but is an Entertainer
and host of The Portal podcast. This work of entertainment is a draft of work in progress
which is the property of the author and thus may not be built upon, renamed, or profited from
without express permission of the author.

Guys this is a work of entertainment, he has already admitted he is full of shit

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El Arcón Fri 02 Apr 2021 04:31:17 No.12914778 Report

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>>12914726
Do you think it's weird that that the original time cube lectures were delivered at the university where I would pursue my own PhD less than ten years later?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMZdNyRIATo

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El Cabrón Fri 02 Apr 2021 04:45:25 No.12914800 Report

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[[[Weinstein]]]

El Arcón

El Arcón Fri 02 Apr 2021 04:52:46 No.12914812 Report

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>>12914800
>>12914708
I agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 08:56:27 No.12915255 Report

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>>12914708
>>12914812
What are P2 freemasons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 13:24:15 No.12915735 Report

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>>12914376
Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 16:17:40 No.12916263 Report

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i hope we get something out of this. even a single new clue is a massive step in the field

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 16:46:48 No.12916369 Report

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>>12914376
>Geooometric

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 16:48:01 No.12916377 Report

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>>12916263
Anon, you're looking for hope in all the wrong places

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 18:17:03 No.12916737 Report

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>>12914376
Did that autist seriously publish it on April 1st?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 18:24:08 No.12916763 Report

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>>12914376
>The Author is not a physicist and is no longer an active academician, but is an Entertainerand host of The Portal podcast. This work of entertainment is a draft of work in progresswhich is the property of the author and thus may not be built upon, renamed, or profited fromwithout express permission of the author

I feel like reading this on the first page should tell you everything you need to know about the contents of this "paper".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 18:29:46 No.12916792 Report

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>>12916737
https://youtu.be/ifX_JnBfxTY?t=7796

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Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 18:41:19 No.12916833 Report

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>>12916763
That he is anti-social to some degree?

Nixon told us he's not a crook and Ford pardoned him because he was not a crook. Problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 19:10:49 No.12916909 Report

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>>12914708
You should build a Rubik's... thing like that. Looks fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 20:07:08 No.12917156 Report

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>>12914376
>Geometric Unity
More like Geometric Poonity

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 20:56:21 No.12917383 Report

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>>12916792
oh, its the same meme thing about how the physics community is dismissing his shit ideas

El Arcón

El Arcón Fri 02 Apr 2021 21:41:58 No.12917555 Report

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>>12915255
The P2 freemasons are in an unfavorable position of extreme weakness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 22:51:20 No.12917855 Report

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God I hope he's on to something. Not because I give a fuck about theoretical physics or asking "why" ad infinitum as if some meaning can be derived at some point.... No. If only just to destroy a couple of stem-lords careers, then I'd be happy. And I hate each and everyone one of you in this thread aaaand...Fuck You.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 23:15:09 No.12917919 Report

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>>12917855
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Apr 2021 23:26:23 No.12917971 Report

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>>12917555
That explains their situation, but not who or what they are.

El Arcón

El Arcón Fri 02 Apr 2021 23:57:08 No.12918126 Report

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>>12917971
They are the group of people in that situation. That's their most prominent and defining characteristic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 02:12:10 No.12918602 Report

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>>12914378
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 02:15:33 No.12918613 Report

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anons, help me out if you can in this thread. >>12918362

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 06:36:32 No.12919250 Report

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>>12917855
This might make you happy then:
https://vixra.org/abs/2103.0149

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 06:45:17 No.12919266 Report

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>>12914376
Not reading that because I do not care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 06:46:56 No.12919273 Report

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>>12918126
Huh, okay. Weird. But thanks for clarifying.

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Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 06:59:38 No.12919302 Report

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This is an April 1st fools joke, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 07:01:55 No.12919304 Report

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>>12919302
At least he's honest. I'd prefer that in papers than cramming in tons of information you know nothing about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 09:09:06 No.12919542 Report

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>>12917855
based and heterodoxpilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 09:11:45 No.12919557 Report

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>>12914376
>april 1
>69 pages
was he counting on telling "it was all a joke lol" if it doesnt take off (which it wont)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 09:16:25 No.12919569 Report

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>>12919557
that's exactly what he's planning on doing

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Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 09:23:10 No.12919583 Report

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>>12919302
what's he's saying here? he forgot his own theory?

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Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 09:45:00 No.12919636 Report

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>>12919569
>>12919583
>>12919557
>>12919302
>>12917383
>>12916763
>>12916737

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Apr 2021 17:19:16 No.12920959 Report

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>>12914539
It’s disgusting what they do. Total narcissism. I’ve worked with two teams doing relatively novel projects, both ended up being published widely. All the TA and assistants were mad they did the hard work while they profs get the recognition. But that’s how it works, unless you pull your own funding and have your own lab ect your boss will get credit as he’s managing and funding you. It would be nice is everyone got a participation trophy but that’s not real life. At the same time anyone who’s not a brain let uses it as kino resume material and networks themselves into a similar senior publishing position. They’re just grifters and the fact Tim Dillon was a thrice mentioned thing in his JRE appearance cracked me up. He said how “sad” he is, it was really funny

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