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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 11:48:15 2021 No.12890077 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12890081 >>12890091 >>12890316 >>12892073

How do we solve the replication crisis?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis#:~:text=The%20replication%20crisis%20(also%20called,the%20social%20sciences%20and%20medicine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 11:49:06 No.12890081 Report

Quoted By: >>12891511 >>12891537 >>12891554 >>12891572 >>12891576

>>12890077
DEFUND HUMANITIES

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 11:51:05 No.12890087 Report

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We dont, just trust the soience bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 11:52:11 No.12890091 Report

Quoted By: >>12890100 >>12890128 >>12891514

>>12890077
>How do we solve the replication crisis?
Not possible anymore. Everything is poisoned by journalist-level ideology motives and politics.

You would need to get some strong and fair leader figure that can strip the titles, funding and workplaces of those who perpetuates the bullshit but if you tried it today you'd get some critical racial theory room temperature IQ diversity hire for the post and everything would just become ten times worse.

Western science is dead and academia is a joke. Just accept it and move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 11:55:34 No.12890100 Report

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>>12890091
So we are fucked?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 11:57:00 No.12890106 Report

Quoted By: >>12890123 >>12890128

>>12890100
>so we are fucked?
*points at everything*
need to ask? lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 12:01:05 No.12890123 Report

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>>12890106
So what now then? Who will take up the mantle and replace the west in scientific progress? Ir is this it? Is it all going to collapse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 12:02:25 No.12890128 Report

Quoted By: >>12890320

>>12890091
>>12890106
What should we do then? Conduct research ourselves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 12:45:51 No.12890225 Report

Quoted By: >>12891588

This problem disproportionately affects areas of science where there is some money to be made. Researchers should be more liable for the results of their research. If the study is about some medication and they say it's safe when it's not they should have some of the blame.

El Arcón

El Arcón Sat 27 Mar 2021 12:49:23 No.12890236 Report

Quoted By: >>12890246 >>12890426 >>12891934

>How do we solve the replication crisis?
Stopping hiring females for scientist positions would help it more than anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 12:53:10 No.12890246 Report

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>>12890236
Better education in statistical methods and such maybe. For both researchers and people using the research.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:20:48 No.12890316 Report

Quoted By: >>12890352 >>12890426

>>12890077
>study hard on your own
>verify all information
>find researchers you trust
>find who they work with
>build a web of trust
>call out charlatans
The problem is it requires work and effort and to a certain degree, risk.
Also, avoid all papers written by women, chinese, and indians and the quality of the scientific papers you read will skyrocket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:22:04 No.12890320 Report

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>>12890128
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:28:42 No.12890352 Report

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>>12890316
In my experience most researchers know which papers are trustworthy, for many of these reasons. There are good journals, bad journals, good researchers are known, a web of trust as you say. It's mostly a problem because the media reports on papers specialists all know are bogus, and people that are not experts are making decisions based on them. The problem is while most specialists know who to trust, they won't call out those that are messing up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:38:19 No.12890370 Report

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Everybody lies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 13:57:40 No.12890419 Report

Quoted By: >>12891432

Who the fuck cares, only meme sciences are concerned. Just dyor before you accept a surgery, or some random healing pill

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 14:00:15 No.12890426 Report

Quoted By: >>12891523

>>12890236
>>12890316
I understand what you are saying, but be carefull. There have been great women in science. They are rare, but they do exist. Barbara McClintock would be a good example. Chinese papers can be usefull because they have less moral and legal restrictions. The geneticly modified suposedly AIDS resistant twins are a good example of this.
My point is, I think its more important to consider the credibility of papers you read, based on where they come from, and over the years familiarise yourself with who in your field or adjacent fields are credible. Research you build on should always be something you consider a potential point of failure in your experiments.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 15:53:21 No.12890703 Report

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>>12890123
China

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:48:42 No.12891432 Report

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>>12890419
>Just dyor
Your only option for this is to conduct your own study (and do it rigorously otherwise it's pointless) after which by the time you're done collecting data you have been long dead from whatever was ailing you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 19:53:48 No.12891453 Report

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>>12890703
Unironically this. China is taking the torch of progress, because they don't have the same moral compass as the west. They are essentially copying what the west was doing 150 years ago, including imperialist expansion into Africa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:08:46 No.12891511 Report

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>>12890081
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:09:55 No.12891514 Report

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>>12890091
this is why monarchies work, they allow you to purge toxic bureaucracies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:11:37 No.12891523 Report

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>>12890426
>The geneticly modified suposedly AIDS resistant twins are a good example of this.
didn't that gene also boost IQ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:17:55 No.12891537 Report

Quoted By: >>12891557 >>12891571 >>12891577

>>12890081
But psychology, psychiatry, medicine, sociology, economics aren't humanities

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:21:48 No.12891554 Report

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>>12890081

FPBP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:22:49 No.12891557 Report

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>>12891537
>not humanities
Defund Social Sciences as Well

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:26:00 No.12891566 Report

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>>12891557
Umm... what about the VaCcInEs?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:26:23 No.12891571 Report

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>>12891537
Medicine and Pharma research are very corrupt.
So in the Health sector it's hopeless.

Nutrition is borderline pseudo-science quackery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:26:24 No.12891572 Report

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>>12890081
Found the white supremacist. STOP QUESTIONING YOUR HUMANITIES DEPARTMENT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:28:02 No.12891576 Report

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>>12890081
FPBP
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:29:05 No.12891577 Report

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>>12891537
then make scientific what can be made scientific and remove corporate influences in the publication process of medicine papers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:30:33 No.12891581 Report

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>>12891566
Medical Error is the 3rd leading cause of Death in USA after Heart disease and Cancer

Medical Doctors have (quite literally) blood in their hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 20:33:29 No.12891588 Report

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>>12890225
BLAME the legal system here and elsewhere. BLAME the politicians(everyone) that protect and prevent bad shit happening to their current money maker's. BLAME career victims(made/trained by some legal systems), the kind of person who wonders a city in an area over 50 miles from home trying to trip on ice/snow for a nice settlement payout types. Those who realize a medicine bottle forgot to warn not to cook the pills/etc and do so with expert finesse to get a payout.
BLAME those who push through a bad medication/process because it has a low enough side effect ratio that'll still make money after lawsuits/blanket gag orders.
Hippocratic Oaths are regularly broken, the Christian/Muslim/Jewish specific oaths do as well.

El Cabrón

El Cabrón Sat 27 Mar 2021 22:19:18 No.12891934 Report

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>>12890236
Filtering out schizos would be good too.

El Cabrón

El Cabrón Sat 27 Mar 2021 22:20:47 No.12891940 Report

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>>12891581
>every single one of those people would be alive but for medical error

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Anonymous Sat 27 Mar 2021 23:06:35 No.12892073 Report

Quoted By: >>12892426

>>12890077
Not possible anymore, science is becoming the new religion and reproducibility is an obstacle for worshippers, without reproducibility, scientific studies move from ""a simple random study in a someplace"" to the new "science gospel"

El Cabrón

El Cabrón Sun 28 Mar 2021 00:57:00 No.12892426 Report

Quoted By: >>12892529

>>12892073
Wow, real original thought, Anon! Whose podcast did you hear that on? Rogan? Shapiro? Peterson?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 01:12:57 No.12892469 Report

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>>12891571
it's not borderline, it's literally just making shit up. the entire status quo of nutrition changes every 30 years or so.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Mar 2021 01:31:31 No.12892529 Report

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>>12892426
>El Cabrón

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