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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 02:02:16 2021 No.12857373 View Reply Original Report

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IS coffee actually good for me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 02:05:22 No.12857379 Report

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>>12857373
Yes, absolutely. Some strong coffee in the morning gets the blood pumping, makes you read to face the day and win. Wanting delicious, high caffeine coffee is what a true red blooded male would want.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 02:21:20 No.12857423 Report

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>>12857373
It improves cognitive function, acts as a laxative, promotes physical health by making you more active.

It comes at the cost of an increased risk of anxiety and sleep disorders with long term use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 02:30:54 No.12857451 Report

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>>12857373
No. Coffee is good for YOU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 03:53:47 No.12857688 Report

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>>12857373
If you are otherwise healthy then sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 04:04:16 No.12857716 Report

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not sure how to answer this question without big BOOBAs or a big POOPA in the OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 04:19:10 No.12857763 Report

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>>12857373
inflammation, deficient levels of vital minerals as well as stimulant addiction sure does sound good. Oh and lets not forget the impending crash and brain chemical imbalance that you're willing to put yourself through

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 04:38:10 No.12857807 Report

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>>12857763

>inflammation, deficient levels of vital minerals

i would appreciate a good source on these findings

t. green tea enjoyer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 08:01:39 No.12858171 Report

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>>12857807
ah. i remember when i was a young blood like you. yet to discover true power levels of matcha.

coffee reliably increases circulating inflammatory cytokines, interleukin-6 in particular. coffee is also a diuretic which leads to lower levels of electrolytes in solution with rising consumption. not to mention that it has been reliably found to decrease magnesium absorption. these claims are not disputed, you can google keywords and find numerous studies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 14:51:06 No.12859141 Report

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>>12857763
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31055709/
>Coffee consumption has been associated with decreased mortality in previous studies. As aging, obesity, and lifestyle factors affect the risk of mortality, the association between coffee and mortality needs to be examined in various subpopulations by characteristics of subjects. To quantitatively assess this association, we conducted an updated meta-analysis including stratified analyses by potential modifiers. We searched in the PubMed and Web of Science databases through March 8, 2019, and conducted meta-analysis including linear and non-linear dose-response analyses. We identified 40 studies including 3,852,651 subjects and 450,256 all-cause and cause-specific deaths. Non-linear inverse associations between coffee consumption and mortality from all-causes, cardiovascular disease (CVD), and cancers were found. The lowest relative risk (RR) was at intakes of 3.5 cups/day for all-cause mortality (RR = 0.85, 95% CI 0.82-0.89), 2.5 cups/day for CVD mortality (RR = 0.83, 95% CI 0.80-0.87), and 2 cups/day for cancer mortality (RR = 0.96, 95% CI 0.94-0.99), while additional intakes were not associated with further lower mortality. An inverse association between coffee consumption and all-cause mortality was maintained irrespective of age, overweight status, alcohol drinking, smoking status, and caffeine content of coffee. By region, Europe and Asia showed stronger inverse associations than US. A non-linear inverse association was found for mortality from respiratory disease and diabetes, while linear inverse association was found for mortality from non-CVD, non-cancer causes. Moderate coffee consumption (e.g. 2-4 cups/day) was associated with reduced all-cause and cause-specific mortality, compared to no coffee consumption. The inverse association between coffee and all-cause mortality was consistent by potential modifiers except region.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 14:55:11 No.12859155 Report

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>>12857763
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.113.005925
>Methods and Results—
>PubMed and EMBASE were searched for prospective cohort studies of the relationship between coffee consumption and CVD risk, which included coronary heart disease, stroke, heart failure, and CVD mortality. Thirty-six studies were included with 1 279 804 participants and 36 352 CVD cases. A nonlinear relationship of coffee consumption with CVD risk was identified (P for heterogeneity=0.09, P for trend <0.001, P for nonlinearity <0.001). Compared with the lowest category of coffee consumption (median, 0 cups per day), the relative risk of CVD was 0.95 (95% confidence interval, 0.87–1.03) for the highest category (median, 5 cups per day) category, 0.85 (95% confidence interval, 0.80–0.90) for the second highest category (median, 3.5 cups per day), and 0.89 (95% confidence interval, 0.84–0.94) for the third highest category (median, 1.5 cups per day). Looking at separate outcomes, coffee consumption was nonlinearly associated with both coronary heart disease (P for heterogeneity=0.001, P for trend <0.001, P for nonlinearity <0.001) and stroke (P for heterogeneity=0.07, P for trend <0.001, P for nonlinearity <0.001; P for trend differences >0.05) risks.
>Conclusions—
>A nonlinear association between coffee consumption and CVD risk was observed in this meta-analysis. Moderate coffee consumption was inversely significantly associated with CVD risk, with the lowest CVD risk at 3 to 5 cups per day, and heavy coffee consumption was not associated with elevated CVD risk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 15:00:20 No.12859174 Report

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>>12857373
Get better anon, tea of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 15:01:28 No.12859180 Report

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>>12857373
>>12857763
Only on 4chan can people endlessly argue over something as banal as coffee for years and years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 15:02:14 No.12859184 Report

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>>12857763
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5696634/
>Results The umbrella review identified 201 meta-analyses of observational research with 67 unique health outcomes and 17 meta-analyses of interventional research with nine unique outcomes. Coffee consumption was more often associated with benefit than harm for a range of health outcomes across exposures including high versus low, any versus none, and one extra cup a day. There was evidence of a non-linear association between consumption and some outcomes, with summary estimates indicating largest relative risk reduction at intakes of three to four cups a day versus none, including all cause mortality (relative risk 0.83, 95% confidence interval 0.83 to 0.88), cardiovascular mortality (0.81, 0.72 to 0.90), and cardiovascular disease (0.85, 0.80 to 0.90). High versus low consumption was associated with an 18% lower risk of incident cancer (0.82, 0.74 to 0.89). Consumption was also associated with a lower risk of several specific cancers and neurological, metabolic, and liver conditions. Harmful associations were largely nullified by adequate adjustment for smoking, except in pregnancy, where high versus low/no consumption was associated with low birth weight (odds ratio 1.31, 95% confidence interval 1.03 to 1.67), preterm birth in the first (1.22, 1.00 to 1.49) and second (1.12, 1.02 to 1.22) trimester, and pregnancy loss (1.46, 1.06 to 1.99). There was also an association between coffee drinking and risk of fracture in women but not in men.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 15:07:37 No.12859195 Report

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>>12857763
Go ahead and post a reliable meta-study linking coffee with oxidative stress.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 15:13:16 No.12859214 Report

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>>12857763
Also go ahead and post a study showing that coffee drinkers have a magnesium deficiency. You've yet to post a single source on any claim of yours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 15:37:53 No.12859281 Report

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>>12859214
The claim about inflammation is also upside-down

Sage

Sage Sat 20 Mar 2021 16:00:28 No.12859341 Report

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>coffee junkie sperging out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 16:05:03 No.12859349 Report

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>>12857373
Let the best win. :D

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 16:07:11 No.12859355 Report

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>>12859141
>>12859155
>>12859184
>t. addict

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:06:54 No.12859517 Report

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Coffee is literally liquid BBC. If you drink coffee, you like African-American phalluses in your mouth (and inside your wife).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:11:26 No.12859531 Report

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>>12857423
It is also an antioxidant , and reduces risk for prostate cancer, liver cancer, endometrial cancer, and some cancers of the mouth and throat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:12:29 No.12859537 Report

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>>12859531
>It is also an antioxidant
The beans contain antioxidants.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:14:37 No.12859544 Report

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>>12859531
>these antioxidants reduce the risk of cancer!
>What's the original rate of cancer? Don't bother goy.
>What's the new rate after this reduction? Don't ask questions goy.
>DRINK. THE. COFFEE. GOY.
>It's good for you!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:16:02 No.12859548 Report

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>>12859355
>>12859544
>tumblr-tier memes
>no arguments

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:17:34 No.12859553 Report

Quoted By: >>12859565 >>12859573

>>12857373
I'm a bit of a coffee addict, but I haven't found any super convincing evidence that coffee is any better for you than just abstaining from drinking something worse.

I live in the US where people routinely feed their kids Coca Cola in a baby bottle. If your drink of choice is a zero calorie appetite suppressant, no shit that's going to show up as a 'health benefit' when compared to what other people are drinking. But is the drink itself doing anything? Probably not.

I like it because it's tasty and helps me write papers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:22:46 No.12859565 Report

Quoted By: >>12859576 >>12859580

>>12859553
Finally a rational addict who understands it for what it is. You remember the Colombia Prof who takes heroin, and published studies saying it's not harmful for you and is even good? Lol, that's OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:26:58 No.12859573 Report

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>>12859553
Except it's been associated with better health outcomes even after adjusting for physical activity level, BMI, smoking status and alcohol consumption status.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:28:05 No.12859576 Report

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>>12859565
What a pathetic existence. You always show up in every coffee thread and all you can do is cry "a-addict" against people who post meta-studies. Lol at this manchild.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:30:01 No.12859580 Report

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>>12859565
I mean, being an 'addict' is only as bad as whatever side effects the substance has. A heroin addict is way more screwed than a cannabis addict because the former is objectively more dangerous (due to presence of additives like fentanyl and a narrow therapeutic window).

I drink three cups of coffee a day, and the long term effects are basically:
-my hands shake if I haven't eaten enough
-I need to drink coffee tomorrow

nobody will ever spike my beans with fentanyl and instantly kill me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:31:04 No.12859586 Report

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>>12859580
Long term effects are also troubles sleeping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:33:10 No.12859594 Report

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>>12859573
>Except it's been associated with better health outcomes even after adjusting for physical activity level, BMI, smoking status and alcohol consumption status.

Controlling for four measly variables in a signal that noisy is not as impressive as you think it is. Dietary social scientists have used that design for decades and their field still can't reliably confirm anything besides obvious things like overconsuming fats gives you hyperlipidemia and eventually kills you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:34:07 No.12859597 Report

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>>12859580
Neither I nor any other coffee drinker I know has any withdrawal symptoms. The only people I hear ranting about how scary and addictive coffee is are fatties who are attempting to rationalize their dislike for coffee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:34:11 No.12859598 Report

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>>12859586
>Long term effects are also troubles sleeping.
I'm a grad student with some academic aspirations. This was going to happen regardless of what I drink.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:35:18 No.12859600 Report

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>>12859597
>Neither I nor any other coffee drinker I know has any withdrawal symptoms.
It's real for me at least. I get a killer headache if I don't have at least a cup. Your results may vary though.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:37:08 No.12859606 Report

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cool meta-analysis, bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:42:32 No.12859616 Report

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>>12859606
It's definitely cooler than the meta study you post... oh, wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:44:50 No.12859622 Report

Quoted By: >>12859651

>>12859616
>posting a flawed, obviously biased and incorrect meta-analysis is better than posting nothing
do people really think like this? no wonder soience is on the rise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:52:48 No.12859651 Report

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>>12859622
>It's flawed, obviously biased and incorrect because it makes manchildren like me angry
Lol. Feel free to post an "unbiased" meta-study showing how coffee is horrible for health.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:55:16 No.12859660 Report

Quoted By: >>12859668

>>12859651
>Feel free to post an "unbiased" meta-study showing how coffee is horrible for health.

Not him, but you are being intentionally irrational. The set of all hypotheses is not just 'coffee is good for your health' and 'coffee is bad for your health'. Failing to rule out one does not confirm the other. This is falsification principle 101.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 17:57:46 No.12859668 Report

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>>12859660
I don't think he's doing it intentionally. I think he's legitimately retarded and defensive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 19:11:43 No.12859889 Report

Quoted By: >>12860913

>>12857373
All things in moderation, OP.

A cup of coffee in the morning is fine, and even the occasional pick-me-up-cup in the afternoon is okay sometimes. But if you're downing 5-6 cups a day you're in trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Mar 2021 23:49:55 No.12860913 Report

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>>12859889
5-6 cups??? people dont even drink that much water a day

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