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Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 20:38:19 2021 No.12794160 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12795042 >>12795081 >>12795162 >>12795393 >>12795473

>virologists dont like adding faces to virions
what, pissbaby virologists don't like it when 140iq self-endowed geniuses call viruses alive?
salty incel virologist wanna kill ebolachan because she's too alive
are viruses alive? do they deserve to have faces even if they're not?
have you ever heard a virologist or an epidemiologist say "virus faces bad" or the like? I sure haven't, and I'm in biotech/pharma.

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Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 23:56:39 No.12795042 Report

Quoted By: >>12795047 >>12795048 >>12795093

>>12794160
You can buy pic related at the gift shop of the CDC museum in Atlanta. Sounds like some random person looking for attention decided to speak for all virologist. Why kind of person would do such a thing?

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Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 23:57:29 No.12795047 Report

Quoted By: >>12795393

>>12795042
KEE-YUTE!!

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Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 23:57:59 No.12795048 Report

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>>12795042

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 00:00:02 No.12795061 Report

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 00:06:02 No.12795081 Report

Quoted By: >>12795187 >>12795610 >>12795650

>>12794160
It’s all fake
>>12713318
only bacteriophages and giant viruses are real. But they are misunderstood.
The phages are where they got the sequence motives of the alleged vertebrate pathogenic viruses. The CPE is interpreted wrongly and the animal experiments are equally designed to show the desired effects independently of true pathogenicity.
Viruses are detoxification programs of cells and not quasi dead infectious genomes and proteins in a protein hull (sometimes alleged to also have a fat bubble around).

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 00:09:37 No.12795093 Report

Quoted By: >>12795293 >>12795302

>>12795042
Those are bacteria ie actual life unlike viruses and you

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 00:28:01 No.12795162 Report

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>>12794160
It didn't always use to be this way...when did they get so uptight?

le french press

le french press Sat 06 Mar 2021 00:41:32 No.12795187 Report

Quoted By: >>12795254

>>12795081
oh not you again

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 01:02:56 No.12795254 Report

Quoted By: >>12795610

>>12795187
I don’t remember you personally, but I’m glad we found each other again.
We are in this together. Books will be rewritten. Funny how French press did impress you and you never knew about the subtile nuances of isolation and purification. You probably did look it up. Have another “fancy” term, because that’s really all there is to it.
PFGE
It’s all so simple once it’s defined. In the end that’s the esoteric nature of science. Things aren’t really that complicated. I will demystify it all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 01:21:23 No.12795293 Report

Quoted By: >>12795342 >>12795352 >>12795588

>>12795093
One in the back is a phage and HIV, Chickenpox, and influenza are all there as well.
>Virus not life!
A virus is just a lifeform that has outsourced its energy needs to another cell, in other terms it's a very efficient parasite.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 01:24:01 No.12795302 Report

Quoted By: >>12795342

>>12795093
The blue one on the left is rhinovirus. The yellow one next to it is herpes. There are other viruses but those two are all that need to be identified to make you look like the ass you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 01:26:13 No.12795306 Report

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>>12795162
It's a virtue signaler looking for attention. There was no planetary survey of virologist to get a consensus on the subject. Some lab monkey wanting to make a name for herself with trendy outrage culture started this. No one else cares.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 01:40:19 No.12795342 Report

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>>12795293
I think it’s equally nonsense as HIV-1/2, VZV and HxNx. So it’s a good metaphor.
Viruses aren’t a life from they are fragments of cell programs.
There is no such thing as a true parasite. These so could parasites are always symbiotic to some degree.
>>12795302
Funny how they like to put blue and sometimes yellow and green on enterovirous. Maybe because they know seeing is believing.
The HSV-1/2 are the most interesting. Since a large amount of the failed trials to isolate virion ex vivo were done with them.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 01:44:47 No.12795352 Report

Quoted By: >>12795432

>>12795293
you don't get to go off making new definitions for viruses. viruses are on the same class as plasmids as selfish genetic replicators (https://doi.org/10.1111/nyas.12696)
many loops of DNA have their own ORI and transmission method. using a protein shell to spread to new hosts is just another form of HGT. no ribosomes, no metabolism, no self-replication, no substantiated theory for a prokaryotic origin. the fact that phage defense mechanisms use ribozymes reveals phage and bacteria both existed before or during the transition from RNA world. a primordial slime of simplistic self-replicating enzymes and nucleotides. It would literally be more apt to call phage an extracellular appendage turned parasite, like mitochondria that evolved to just divide, rather than work for HGT(which is evolutionarily advantageous).

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 01:58:24 No.12795393 Report

Quoted By: >>12795403

>>12794160
>salty incel virologist wanna kill ebolachan because she's too alive
>>12795047
>KEE-YUTE!!
neck yourself redditor nerd

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 02:00:30 No.12795403 Report

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>>12795393
>neck yourself redditor nerd
I agree with you, but
>frogposting

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 02:05:31 No.12795423 Report

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hm, protein-bound bacterial organelles(RuBisCO sites, not engulfed bacteria) looking pretty sus
we sure that viruses are just lazy bacteria, looks more like something once MADE by bacteria, like they still are, like these organelles still are.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 02:09:17 No.12795432 Report

Quoted By: >>12795442 >>12795610

>>12795352
Not him.
I’m partly with you. Like I already stated I don’t believe there is something like a true parasite. In fact we can see time and time again these parasites disappear shortly after the issue is resolved. Or reappear soon after being killed, which we call reoccurring infection. In the end that’s a complex issue. But I personally don’t see any evidence of H-K’s-postulates ever being demonstrated anywhere. And I have looked at a lot of stuff. It’s always metagenomics Kochs etc.
They already claim there are ribosomes in some viruses. So they are shifting their definition as they see fits. I personally don’t by it at all. It’s all the usual in vitro nonsense and de novo assembly of snippets never seen as a hole genome. How much do some primer hits in an open transcriptome and in slicio really tell you? In the end genetics as it’s drilled into children at school or most university is deeply flawed. We already know it’s much more complicated. Genes being selfish is just a theory. There are changes in the DNA induced by proteins, RNA and even metabolites. There is even evidence pointing towards the fluids playing a very important role. Different tissue types and even monozygotic twins are different genetically speaking. The foundations of the beautiful building are very shaky. We do know much less than we think.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 02:14:11 No.12795442 Report

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>>12795432
>in vitro nonsense
dont worry I know who you are

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 02:18:21 No.12795456 Report

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>>12795442
>dont worry I know who you are
As if I would worry. I’m not the one believing in imaginary pathogens waiting out there to come after me.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 02:23:41 No.12795473 Report

Quoted By: >>12795495

>>12794160
Is a tiny string of genetic information packed in a protein coat considered a living thing? If no, then viruses are not alive

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 02:29:33 No.12795495 Report

Quoted By: >>12795509 >>12795521

>>12795456
whatever gets you through the week my dear. my little genius needs to keep reposting his opinions.
my alcohol cleansings are most importantly, ... therapeutic. just like the nootropic fuckers taking meme pills.
>>12795473
it was bait my friend, I'd never say incel unless I was trying to reel in retards.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 02:34:14 No.12795509 Report

Quoted By: >>12795566

>>12795495
>it was bait
This board keeps getting visits from retards and /pol/, so it's really hard to tell nowadays

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 02:39:44 No.12795521 Report

Quoted By: >>12795610

>>12795495
So small, but that’s just you and if you are fine, so be it.
Being gifted is so overhyped. We do have gifts, but it often just boils down to looking at the evidence. But maybe even being willing to do that is a gift.
>my alcohol cleansings are most importantly
I’m drinking a Tegernseer. Cheers.
>just like the nootropic fuckers taking meme pills.
Few pills aren’t meme pills. Making the symptoms go away is all there is for most.
Fair enough you had me chuckle a little bit.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 02:53:13 No.12795566 Report

Quoted By: >>12795596

>>12795509
>isn’t it terrible
That’s a nice mental game you are structuring your time with. Makes you feel nostalgic and superior to other people? In the end it isn’t easy to challenge our beliefs. Most of them aren’t really ours at all, we just get them drilled into us starting at an early age.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 02:59:41 No.12795588 Report

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>>12795293
Efficient parasite but to who?

I still think seeing same bacteria morph between cocci and rods as magic. For me rods are fungus but not like mushroom. It’s magic how they appear on posts or windows all of the sudden sort of like hardened sugar or candy.

I think there are many schools and theories just like MD and DO. Schools leave somethings silent and you can see why especially in evolving fields and environment. It’s not that they are out to kill but they don’t trust fully because medical politics is still an arena. When I read about viruses and protozoa there is no difference to an extent a virus can be a hard to kill Protozoa as it still implicates RNA. That’s not even considering amoeba theories. US is supposedly not too keen on Amoeba. From
My understanding Australian medicine and US medicine even differ on rabies virus, to the US it is a virus to Australians it is a very virulent bacteria. The mystery is how one is able to annihilate it but another isn’t. Medicine is there. And for the most part it’s used as politics. You see rabies all the time on Latino tv and played off as stigmata. It becomes like Torquemada and proof of origin all over again. This is the sacrifice of our faith.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:02:09 No.12795596 Report

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>>12795566
What are you going on about?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:06:34 No.12795610 Report

Quoted By: >>12795731

>>12795588
>My understanding Australian medicine and US medicine even differ on rabies virus, to the US it is a virus to Australians it is a very virulent bacteria. The mystery is how one is able to annihilate it but another isn’t.
I’m this guy
>>12795521
>>12795456
>>12795432
>>12795342
>>12795254
>>12795081
You have to explain it to me please. Aren’t the claiming it’s a bat lyssavirus (ABLV) in Australia? Do you mean they diagnose it differently?

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:13:38 No.12795650 Report

Quoted By: >>12795690

>>12795081

That’s not the situation the situation is they will always evolve. Think of bonsai trees. You can bonsai a pathogen. Will the same medicine work? Now as for medicine it becomes a sin to have so much surplus. There is a correlation between large scale medicine manufacturing and environmental pollution. That’s not even the tip of the iceberg. as tools to make nano technology get smaller and smaller the debris becomes harder to quarantine.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:21:31 No.12795690 Report

Quoted By: >>12795748

>>12795650
You have to verbalize it differently. I don’t get your point.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:30:29 No.12795731 Report

Quoted By: >>12795772

>>12795610

I think as far as theory goes. They differ in medical practice and psychology. They all have political motives and truth. Homozygous vs heterozygous communities. For example in equatorial lands from what I’ve been told have amoebic theory not seen in west. It takes major portion of their curriculum. Their psychology is also a bit different. Think of it as apocrypha some accept some don’t. To an extent transcripts between colleges at the international level are not acceptable because of philosophies. You can see why when entire info science systems differ completely especially chemical names and referencing because languages are different.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:36:30 No.12795748 Report

Quoted By: >>12795769

>>12795690

The point is the manufacturing facility close to you was ordered to produce 500,000,000 500nanometer drill bits. You being 20 miles away have been shitting drill bit residue.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:42:46 No.12795769 Report

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>>12795748

The cdc commissioned a lab to modify a bacteria down to different size from
its regular 15micron. It asked it to be modified to 50nano 100nano 200nano 500 nano 1micron and 5microns because it has a hunch about something. Heard somewhere they have done it down to a few atoms. You have it in front of you you can eradicate it. However there is always room for contamination.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 03:43:40 No.12795772 Report

Quoted By: >>12795840 >>12795876

>>12795731
>They differ in medical practice and psychology.
In what?
>Homozygous vs heterozygous communities.
Which communities?
>from what I’ve been told have amoebic theory not seen in west.
Press X to doubt. Any references?
>names differ
The names are irrelevant. You can find it out.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 04:06:07 No.12795840 Report

Quoted By: >>12795876

>>12795772

Example a researcher is teaching his postdoctoral students bacterial branching systems at his institute. His stock group in general study is bacillus. The trunk is bacillus anthracis everything onward is a stem. Tolstoy doesn’t legalize solicitation as its legal philosophical focus is common trust and not recrimination reason we went from isolated languages to several major language groups. As long as Islam is political, there is the doubt of Aislamiento.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 04:22:20 No.12795876 Report

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>>12795772

>>12795840

Otherwise it is a war agreement right?
Now how are they supposed to defend themselves from? If every nation needs a military to even be a nation. And they are teaching everything differently that’s the focus of psychology and sociology. The prime focus is solicitation because that is the conduct of extreme capitalism. Not everything is ‘enmity’.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 12:32:38 No.12797035 Report

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 14:25:45 No.12797238 Report

Quoted By: >>12797476

I wish there was a vaccine to get rid of the schizo sitting up this board with his word salad.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Mar 2021 15:54:15 No.12797476 Report

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>>12797238
But vaccines have never been proven to work.

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