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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 01:54:22 2021 No.12785805 View Reply Original Report

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Let's settle this /sci/, who's smarter, mathematicians or physicists?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 01:57:52 No.12785819 Report

Quoted By: >>12785839 >>12785845 >>12785870 >>12787804 >>12787921 >>12790279 >>12790316

>>12785805
>Newton invents Calculus
Mathematicians BTFO since 17th century AD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 02:02:54 No.12785839 Report

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>>12785819
Except he didn't. Also calculus is baby math.

El Arcón

El Arcón Thu 04 Mar 2021 02:03:48 No.12785845 Report

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>>12785819
yes. physicists are smarter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 02:07:59 No.12785870 Report

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>>12785819
so I suppose the smartest people are people who hang counterfeiters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 02:10:35 No.12785885 Report

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>>12785805
who gives a fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 02:14:45 No.12785904 Report

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>>12785805
neither, anyone smart to boost the average intelligence of either of those groups would be smart enough to disown the group average by identifying with a smaller subgroup or as sui generis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 02:16:02 No.12785907 Report

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>>12785845
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 02:24:06 No.12785942 Report

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>>12785805
You literally cannot compare Einstein and Grothendieck.

The average physicsts may be SLIGHTLY smarter than the average mathematician, but it is two completely different mindsets and the best physicists/mathematicians are equally smart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 04:06:24 No.12786296 Report

Quoted By: >>12787432

mathematicians don't even understand their own theorems. That's why they name them all after each other. Contrast with physics:
>nth law of thermodynamics
>general relativity
>standard model of particle physics
>etc.
Whereas Mathfags have shit like
>Rolle's Theorem
>Golbach Conjecture
>Riemann Hypothesis
>Navier-Stokes equation
>Bessel function
>etc.
Dumb motherfuckers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 09:07:57 No.12787174 Report

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What do mathematicians even do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 09:30:41 No.12787249 Report

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>>12787174
they compute formulas for the physicists

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 09:37:05 No.12787270 Report

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>>12787174
prove theorems

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 09:37:09 No.12787271 Report

Quoted By: >>12787764 >>12787783

>>12785805
The average scientist in any field is a midwit that will never discover anything. Im hesitant to say they even have above average IQ. That being said i always found math easier than physics, but that doesnt mean physicists are smarter just because their field is subjectively 3% harder. An illiterate rice farmer might have 200 IQ and never have the need to put it to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 09:42:48 No.12787283 Report

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>>12785805
physicists are up like 3 IQ points, but the trinity of physics, mathematics and philosophy have a huge lead on everything else. So let’s say practically all 3 are equal and laugh at economics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 10:03:21 No.12787346 Report

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>>12787283
fuck off philosophy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 10:30:25 No.12787432 Report

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>>12786296
it's kind of a dickhead move to name a law of the universe after yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 10:33:08 No.12787442 Report

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>>12787283
Philosophy is just cover stories for ideologies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 12:41:54 No.12787761 Report

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>>12785870
based Newton

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 12:42:56 No.12787764 Report

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>>12787271
based retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 12:50:17 No.12787783 Report

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>>12787271
200iq and illiterate don't fit into one sentence retard!

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 12:56:07 No.12787791 Report

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>>12787783
If a genius is born in a mudhot from rice farmer parents and nothing bad happens in his life to push him for a change he will just be a rice farmer. His intelligence will just sit inside his cranium.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 13:01:56 No.12787804 Report

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>>12785819
LEIBFFZ WAS FIRST

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 13:37:38 No.12787921 Report

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>>12785819
>Newton invents Calculus
Calculus was invented by the German Leibniz who was a Mathematician and not a Physicist.

Newton stole Leibiniz's idea. Newton plagiarized and took the credit.

>>12785839

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 13:39:08 No.12787926 Report

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>>12785805
>is a child
more like a subset

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 13:55:42 No.12787984 Report

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>>12787926
Theoretical Physics is a subset of Math.

But Experimental Physics (pic related) isn't ...
unless you consider it just Applied Statistics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 14:00:24 No.12788001 Report

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Computer Scientists

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 14:01:00 No.12788003 Report

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>>12787791
This is true but largely a problem of the past. We have the internet which disseminates knowledge to all and a platform to drop shit you come up with. Problem now is our smart people go into fucking finance or go live in a mud hut to be hermits. We need to find incentives to get them into useful shit like civilian research. We put way too much emphasis on military research too, so a lot of our smart people waste their whole lives or their young years where they are most productive on that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 14:31:58 No.12788104 Report

Quoted By: >>12788634

>>12785805
Mathematicians in my experience the ability to think deeper whilst Physicists are more "quick-witted". Physicists are better at what most non-educated people think higher math is (Diff EQs, calculus and such); the average person has absolutely no idea what higher math consists of but generally has a pop-sci understanding of physics. So to the average person a physicist would probably appear smarter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 16:03:25 No.12788453 Report

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>>12787432
Newton's laws are not really laws, more like definitions. They are more math than physics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 16:54:17 No.12788634 Report

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>>12788104
>>Mathematicians in my experience the ability to think deeper
about what? Mathematicians have no critical thinking. Hey have no idea what orders of magnitudes are. Physicists are grounded. The only problem with those is that they go over the top like Max Tegmark and his peak rationalist MUH
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_universe_hypothesis

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 23:25:29 No.12790237 Report

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>>12787174
Still worldbuilding string theory hoping somebody outside the math department takes it seriously some day.

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Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 23:37:23 No.12790274 Report

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>>12787174
Math major career route:

If a Midwit : Statistican Business Chad or Math Professor at a Mid Tier Uni.

If Genius: Math Professor at Top Tier Uni

If Brainlet: High School Teacher, Low Tier Community College Professor, Code Monkey or Unemployed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 23:38:48 No.12790279 Report

Quoted By: >>12790630

>>12785819
Newton was a mathematics professor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucasian_Professor_of_Mathematics

Funny how mathematicians like him are better at physics than actual physicists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 23:39:49 No.12790284 Report

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>>12788634
Mathematicians understand thoughts and rules more than any profession in the world.

Physicists don't care about "what is the concept of information? What is the concept of generalization?" They just want the answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 23:47:15 No.12790316 Report

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>>12785805 Mathematicians obviously
>>12785819 Newton was (like Leibniz) a philosopher in the truest sense of the word, though if he were primarily anything, then it was a mathematician. retard.
>>12785839 Cringe pseud take
>>12785845 Your physics is retarded and your mathematics is worse, cope.
>>12787921 Leibniz, while undeniably a genius, was not the first to discover calculus; however, I will grant that his conception is more complete and that he used better notation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Mar 2021 23:49:49 No.12790332 Report

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>>12785805
>the converse is not true in general
t. retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 00:53:50 No.12790630 Report

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>>12790279
>Funny how mathematicians like him are better at physics than actual physicists.
lol, definitely not true anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 01:04:31 No.12790665 Report

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>>12785805
Physics is not logic. Neither is math for that matter.
Also, your conclusion is a complete non-sequitur.

Why do you spend time shilling complete nonsense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 01:08:01 No.12790674 Report

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>>12790665
What is logic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 01:53:43 No.12790799 Report

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>>12790674
The study of rules of inference.
Or more broadly, the analysis of arguments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 02:00:57 No.12790825 Report

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>>12790799
All logicians are mathematicians.
Like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 02:38:15 No.12790961 Report

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>>12790825
I wouldn’t say that, no. You’re not really going to find logicians in the math department of any major university anyway. I wasn’t required to take logic to get my math degree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 08:15:12 No.12791894 Report

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>>12787442
i don’t care, statistics don’t lie

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 08:32:03 No.12791933 Report

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>>12787791
How else would you know he's a genius if he didn't read. If he can't read he can't communicate ideas, he wouldn't even know the right terminology to explain ideas. If he was a genius, reading would actually come naturally. He would just need one book to start with and his natural curiosity would take over

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 08:32:43 No.12791934 Report

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>>12785805
Your pic is completely wrong and retarded.

>who's smarter, mathematicians or physicists?
Whoever doesn't reply to this shit thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 08:45:41 No.12791965 Report

Quoted By: >>12792001

>>12785805
Math requires you to understand abstract things without understanding them intuitively.
Physics is about our universe, so you can remember things intuitively.
Abstract thinking is harder.
Ergo: mathematicians are smarter then physicists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 09:05:45 No.12792001 Report

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>>12791965
>t. algebraic topologist

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Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 11:57:00 No.12792339 Report

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Physicists solve problems faster. and are better in doing Mental calculations on spot.

Mathematicians are slower, spend more time and lines to proof things with an often unnecessary and pedantic Rigour.

Physicist answers are more concise with fewer lines.
While mathematicians are too verbose and love to waste several pages to solve a problem that just need a few lines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 13:47:56 No.12792582 Report

Quoted By: >>12792609

Given that physicists depend on math and mathematicians, I'm going to say mathematicians.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 13:56:08 No.12792609 Report

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>>12792582
that's like saying traders are dependent on the fat IT nerd so the nerds are better than the traders.
Mathematicians are intern monkeys working for their boss the physicists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Mar 2021 14:12:03 No.12792671 Report

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>>12792609
Physicists don't boss anything. They're glorified dumpster divers. They trail behind mathematicians, sifting through a mathematician's poop to find pieces of corn that fit some theory.

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