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what is /sci/'s view on Edward Dutton?

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 09:10:45 2021 No.12753196 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12753330 >>12753424

Do you think Dutton's view on 'spiteful' mutants is correct?

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Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 09:26:25 No.12753231 Report

Quoted By: >>12753339

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavior_mutation
>mutation accumulation experiment show that the behavior of animals degrades in absence of purifying selection
>mammals learn from imitation - monkey see, monkey do
>maladaptive behavior in modern humans can (in part) be explained by the accumulation of deleterious mutation from the start of the industrial revolution

Makes sense to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 10:26:13 No.12753330 Report

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>>12753196
Thats other's peoples theory that he showcases, but yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 10:34:09 No.12753339 Report

Quoted By: >>12753346

>>12753231
I have been saying for years that the point of sex is deleting nefarious mutations, thorough both sexual and natural selection. So every species need an incel class, the role of incels is to not reproduce. When incels reproduce the next generation has twice as many incels including "ultraincels". Eventually the dam breaks and the species returns to the mean.
This was observed in Chernobyl, every animal suffered mutations but eventually these were cleared out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 10:38:06 No.12753346 Report

Quoted By: >>12753358 >>12753370

>>12753339
the problem is tho with sexual selection doesn't necessarily pick the best traits overall. just what was good enough during adaptation where selection to the trait was "trained" over the fitness surface then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 10:52:32 No.12753358 Report

Quoted By: >>12753361

>>12753346
I dont want to make a big deal out of sexual selection, it can be random as far as im concerned. The important part is the mixing of genes because then the next generation has new combinations, some of these random combinations will have less nefarious mutations than average, some will have more mutations than average. Then as those with more mutations reproduce less the species is cleansed as a whole.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 10:57:29 No.12753361 Report

Quoted By: >>12753373

>>12753358
sexual selection would be better random than selective for outdated trait optima but there needs to be a selective pressure of some kind as just mixing doesn't weed out deleterious recessive alleles that need to be heterozygous with the good ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 11:03:44 No.12753370 Report

Quoted By: >>12753380

>>12753346
>be born into a rich family
>be ultra incel 1/10 and retarded
>reproduce cause money

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 11:04:22 No.12753373 Report

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>>12753361
Well sure, there must be a selective pressure. As in, the muscles you dont use atrophy, etc. The world is hostile and is supposed to cutoff some % of any animal population, such % will be smaller or bigger depending on the pressure level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 11:06:44 No.12753380 Report

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>>12753370
That doesnt change the principle because its all statistical and long term involving many generations, chads can die childless too.
Imagine if only retarded reproduced and the whole population was seriously retarded. Such population could not sustain any wealth, the severe poverty would induce a return of chad.

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Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 11:32:01 No.12753424 Report

Quoted By: >>12753439

>>12753196
There is a thing I don't undersand.
If this theory is right, why can't we just attribute the status of "sickness" to spiteful mutations?
Let's treat all the lefties, vegans, atheists, childfrees, commies and so on? However, mutation might no be curable. In that case what stops "healthy people" from genociding the "sick"? Only the is-ought problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 11:40:53 No.12753439 Report

Quoted By: >>12753471

>>12753424
This is not something you can fix with genocide, unless it was a recurrent feature you do every century. The idea is that the reduction in hostility from the world reduces fitness in the population. You can kill all the mutants but they will reappear. In a way, the periodic genocides would play the role of evolutionary pressure since tigers are not a credible threat anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 12:03:07 No.12753471 Report

Quoted By: >>12753506

>>12753439
Does this mean Hitler and (sorry for the pop reference) Voldemort were right?
I don't understand what to do with this information form the ethical standpoint. As if I fell down on another lever of nihilistic spiral closer to nothingness.
Is there a correct way of being a human form biological perspective?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 12:18:51 No.12753506 Report

Quoted By: >>12753521

>>12753471
voldermort was right. hitler picked wrong population to cull. jews have a high iq phenotype. in fact hitler and nazis hated iq as much as leftists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 12:23:50 No.12753521 Report

Quoted By: >>12753566 >>12753571

>>12753506
But...how does one cope with being a mutant?
Or is suicide the only way out? (Suicidal thought only prove a high mutational load)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 12:40:34 No.12753566 Report

Quoted By: >>12753585

>>12753521
Only a leftist would self sacrifice for the common good. Just do whatever you want, if you truly are a worthless mutant you would fail anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 12:41:37 No.12753571 Report

Quoted By: >>12753585

>>12753521
Alternative: Kill dumb and ugly people with a hammer. Like hundreds of people over your lifetime. This makes a greater impact than your suicide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Feb 2021 12:46:02 No.12753585 Report

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>>12753566
>>12753571
Yes. Crypto-protestant mindset might help. Thank you.

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