I am currently considering taking Iosol (ammonium iodide and Iodine/I2) or Lugol's iodine (potassium iodide and Iodine/I2).
Lugol's solution: formulated in 1829
Iosol: formulated in 1945
Solubility of ammonium iodide in water at 20 degrees Celsius: 172g/100g
Solubility of potassium iodide in water at 20 degrees Celsius: 140-148g/100g
According to this article
https://iodinehealth.wordpress.com/iodine-types/ Iosol was formulated with ammonium iodide because according to studies of Hashimoto's thyroiditis in Japan among people who consume too much seafood (which contains potassium iodide) potassium iodide can cause thyroid congestion leading to Hashimoto's, but the article says these studies were disproven.
In the comments of the article if you ctrl+f "March 17, 2011 2:26 pm" you can find a comment which says that the body converts all forms of iodine into potassium iodide before it can be utilized by the thyroid. Is this true? If it is, then Lugol's solution would be better than Iosol.
According to this article
https://www.supporthealth.com.au/health/iodine/ excess ammonium is cleared away as part of the urea cycle similar to many other body processes. Because of this and the relatively high solubility in water compared to potassium iodide, I would think Iosol/ammonium iodide would be a better choice.
Something else to consider is that Iosol uses glycerin as a solvent whereas Lugol's just uses water.
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Also potassium iodide supposedly bonds more tightly to elemental iodine/I2 whereas ammonium iodide is less tightly bonded
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>>12750296 I did this for a while, ultimately I didn't feel it helped and I think the dosage is too high. HOwever when I first did it was like the movie Limitless, that first time is unreal if you are deficient in iodine.
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>>12750312 You say it had a noticeable effect on your mental state but that the dosage is too high. Did the mental state wear off leading you to think that it no longer had an effect on your health? It is definitely important for reproductive health and the health of your baby. A mother's iodine intake is highly correlated to a baby's IQ which is also why fluoride intake lower's IQ because fluoride, like iodine, is a halogen which means fluoride will compete with iodine for uptake in the thyroid.
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>>12750332 >Did the mental state wear off leading you to think that it no longer had an effect on your health? Pretty much, and sometimes I felt a bit off and I was concerned I was getting too much and causing some imbalance in my body without understanding everything, although it could have just been my imagination. You are right about the iodine/fluoride situation however. I've been considering trying more natural iodine sources such as dried seaweed.
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>>12750341 Apparently when supplementing iodine some doctors do a loading test where much more than the normal dose is given so as to reach saturation of iodine in the body. This can cause positive and negative effects but is also able to show how deficient you are depending on when the body begins excreting much more excess iodine because that means your body is fully saturated. It could be that your body just needed more time to adjust to having sufficient iodine levels.
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>>12750296 >>12750341 > causing some imbalance in my body without understanding everything that's a good way to become the story of a chubbyemu medical video
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>uhh i feel like my iodine is too low >hmmm feel like my magnesium is low >yep definitely the zinc lows i am feeling
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>>12750296 Just get iodine salt and cook with it
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>>12750563 Yeah obviously each mineral has a certain effect on the uptake of certain other minerals but iodine deficiency has been shown to be a persistent problem even if 1st world nations. Inland areas especially have a difficult time getting enough iodine as it essentially only exists in sufficient quantities in the ocean. Some soils have higher iodine content but it depends on where you are.
https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/16/health/16iodine.html https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/post/2016/01/are-we-underestimating-benefits-salt-iodization/ https://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/history/iodine.htm https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15734706/ Anonymous
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>>12750586 Iodized salt might have a different uptake than other compounds, plus it has toxic anti-caking agents like alumina compounds and prussiate of soda. Iodized salt is refined salt so it is not full spectrum mineral content like rock salt or celtic sea salt. Rock salt doesn't have microplastic pollution like celtic sea salt does
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>you can find a comment which says that the body converts all forms of iodine into potassium iodide before it can be utilized by the thyroid
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>>12750637 you shouldn't take high doses of anything unless you have a bloodtest that shows that you lack these stuff
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>>12750745 You know how they say vitamin pills are just expensive piss because you excrete any excess that your body doesn't need? Same with iodine. Most people are hypothyroid anyway
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>>12750708 So Iosol/ammonium iodide would be better because of higher solubility and being less tightly bonded to elemental Iodine/I2? Both Iosol and lugol's iodine have elemental iodine/I2 dissolved in some form of iodide.
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>>12750799 I found this relating to Iosol/ammonium iodide
https://www.tpcsdirect.com/health-professionals :
"During the production of Iosol, iodine is extracted from kelp and made into pure iodine crystals. This is not potassium iodide, rather it is an unbound form of iodine.
The second form of iodine used is ammonium iodide, a form that readily dissolves in water. These two forms of iodine are combined in a proprietary manner in a base of vegetable glycerin.
Ammonium iodide is a combination of the mineral iodine and ammonium (NH4). This is a synthesized compound, not derived from a food source. It has superior bioavailability as the iodine readily disassociates from the ammonium upon exposure to water, producing a free iodide ion exactly what your body would like to use in metabolism."
So it seems like Iosol/ammonium iodide is the better choice as it is more soluble in water. I don't know why they decided to use glycerin though. I also don't like that it is synthetic whereas most dietary forms of iodine are potassium iodide. It seems like most of the evidence points to ammonium iodide being more effective though.
I will buy some Iosol then unless somebody says otherwise. My local health food store doesn't have any lugol's solution anyway, so I would've had to order online if I found that potassium iodide is better.
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>>12750799 I found this relating to Iosol/ammonium iodide
https://www.tpcsdirect.com/health-professionals :
"During the production of Iosol, iodine is extracted from kelp and made into pure iodine crystals. This is not potassium iodide, rather it is an unbound form of iodine.
The second form of iodine used is ammonium iodide, a form that readily dissolves in water. These two forms of iodine are combined in a proprietary manner in a base of vegetable glycerin.
Ammonium iodide is a combination of the mineral iodine and ammonium (NH4). This is a synthesized compound, not derived from a food source. It has superior bioavailability as the iodine readily disassociates from the ammonium upon exposure to water, producing a free iodide ion exactly what your body would like to use in metabolism."
So it seems like Iosol/ammonium iodide is the better choice as it is more soluble in water. I don't know why they decided to use glycerin though. I also don't like that it is synthetic whereas most dietary forms of iodine are potassium iodide. It seems like most of the evidence points to ammonium iodide being more effective though.
I will buy some Iosol then unless somebody says otherwise. My local health food store doesn't have any lugol's solution anyway, so I would've had to order online if I found that potassium iodide is better.
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>>12751355 Based on Amazon prices
https://www.amazon.com/TPCS-Distributors-Iosol-Formula-Liquid/dp/B000X5XMVQ https://www.amazon.com/J-Crows-Lugols-Iodine-Solution-Pack/dp/B00E3B49R2 I calculated that:
Iosol costs $13.85 per gram of Iodine/iodide
Lugol's costs $3.32 per gram of Iodine/iodide
Iosol says to take 1-3 drops per day and has 610 drops
Lugol's says to take 0.714 drops per day if you are 150lbs and 1.43 drops per day if you are over 150lbs (This is based on taking either 2-3 drops twice a week if 150lbs or 4-6 drops twice a week if you are over 150lbs) Lugol's has 1200 drops per container (for the amazon version it is 2 containers so total of 2400 drops).
Iosol will run out in 305 days (if we assume 2 drops per day) while Lugol's will run out in 3361 days if you are 150lbs and 1681 days if you are over 150lbs.
So Lugol's costs $0.005914 per day if you are 150lbs and $0.01182 per day if you are over 150lbs
Iosol costs $0.05068 per day
So Lugol's is way cheaper, but seems not to have as much bioavailability? But lugol's solution uses the iodide compound that is the only type found in nature, so you can still get whatever iodine you need from it. Both lugol's and iosol are unnatural due to the fact that they have elemental iodine/I2 dissolved in the iodide compound (ammonium or potassium iodide) which is not found in nature. I think the extra bioavailability you get from ammonium iodide is not worth paying so much more, especially if you are relatively healthy. It could be worth it to pay for Iosol with the ammonium iodide if you have poor health or a damaged thyroid.
I guess I'll see if my health food store has Iosol for cheaper than Amazon does, otherwise I may buy Lugol's from the Amazon page I linked earlier.
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>>12751355 Based on Amazon prices (Iosol $15.46/fl oz, Lugol's $19.88/4oz [2 X 2oz bottles of 2% solution])
https://www.amazon.com/TPCS-Distributors-Iosol-Formula-Liquid/dp/B000X5XMVQ https://www.amazon.com/J-Crows-Lugols-Iodine-Solution-Pack/dp/B00E3B49R2 I calculated that:
Iosol costs $13.85 per gram of Iodine/iodide
Lugol's costs $3.32 per gram of Iodine/iodide
Iosol says to take 1-3 drops per day and has 610 drops
Lugol's says to take 0.714 drops per day if you are 150lbs and 1.43 drops per day if you are over 150lbs (This is based on taking either 2-3 drops twice a week if 150lbs or 4-6 drops twice a week if you are over 150lbs) Lugol's has 1200 drops per container (for the amazon version it is 2 containers so total of 2400 drops).
Iosol will run out in 305 days (if we assume 2 drops per day) while Lugol's will run out in 3361 days if you are 150lbs and 1681 days if you are over 150lbs.
So Lugol's costs $0.005914 per day if you are 150lbs and $0.01182 per day if you are over 150lbs
Iosol costs $0.05068 per day
So Lugol's is way cheaper, but seems not to have as much bioavailability? But lugol's solution uses the iodide compound that is the only type found in nature, so you can still get whatever iodine you need from it. Both lugol's and iosol are unnatural due to the fact that they have elemental iodine/I2 dissolved in the iodide compound (ammonium or potassium iodide) which is not found in nature. I think the extra bioavailability you get from ammonium iodide is not worth paying so much more, especially if you are relatively healthy. It could be worth it to pay for Iosol with the ammonium iodide if you have poor health or a damaged thyroid.
I guess I'll see if my health food store has Iosol for cheaper than Amazon does, otherwise I may buy Lugol's from the Amazon page I linked earlier.
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>>12751584 Also, just because they are unnatural due to the elemental iodine does not mean they are unhealthy. That actually makes them more useful than just the iodide compounds alone are
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Also, just because they are unnatural due to the elemental iodine does not mean they are unhealthy. That actually makes them more useful than just the iodide compounds alone are
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugol%27s_iodine#Mechanism_of_action Anonymous
Would you recommend trying this Out ? There are a few hypothyroid cases in my Family and I've been suffering from irregular fatigue / brain Fog from time to time for many years
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>>12751752 If you have hypothyroid cases in your family it's most likely due to Iodine deficiency. You can try it without risk of harm because your body will excrete any excess (very unlikely) that it doesn't need. Just follow the directions for dosage with whatever you buy and you can't go wrong.
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>>12753178 thx 4 advice, I'll try it
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>>12750296 i took it sometimes, but lower dose
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>>12753178 >your body will excrete any excess ???
how do you know this
