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The Pais Effect and Potentially Singularity-level Technology

Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 04:32:42 2021 No.12711274 View Reply Original Report

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If /sci is worth its salt it would look through the results of this FOIA request and see whether there's anything to this experiment that was conducted to test some of the theories and patents of Dr. Salvatore Cezar Pais. Significant resources went into testing this "High Energy Electromagnetic Generator".

>>>Below are the results of our Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests for documentation related to the Naval Innovative Science and Engineering – Basic & Applied Research Program under the project name “The High Energy Electromagnetic Field Generator (HEEMFG), broken into five parts here: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, and Part 5. We have removed only Pais's academic publications, to avoid copyright issues with their publishers, as well as Pais's patent documents which can already be found online.

Part 1:
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/the-drive-cms-content-staging/message-editor%2F1612230008150-HEEMFG+FOIA+Part+1.pdf

Part 2:
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/the-drive-cms-content-staging/message-editor%2F1612230038627-HEEMFG+FOIA+Part+2.pdf

Part 3:
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/the-drive-cms-content-staging/message-editor%2F1612230062451-HEEMFG+FOIA+Part+3.pdf

Part 4:
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/the-drive-cms-content-staging/message-editor%2F1612230083837-HEEMFG+FOIA+Part+4.pdf

Part 5:
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/the-drive-cms-content-staging/message-editor%2F1612230109307-HEEMFG+FOIA+Part+5.pdf

His patents all describe game-changing, singularity-level technologies:
https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Pais&oq=inventor:(Salvatore+Pais)

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 04:57:53 No.12711357 Report

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>>12711274
Bump. Not sure what a 'Space Time Modification Weapon' does but it sounds extremely based.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 05:07:52 No.12711372 Report

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>>12711274
bump for interest even if its just a FED disinfo larp

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 05:11:01 No.12711378 Report

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>mfw DOD has had high energy plasma weaponry since the early 90's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 05:22:24 No.12711402 Report

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>>12711274
>https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/the-drive-cms-content-staging/message-editor%2F1612230008150-HEEMFG+FOIA+Part+1.pdf
>This technology will eventually enable Intergalactic
Flight (successful design of a Space Drive).
Ok, this is either total bullshit, or the DOD has been sitting on paradigm shifting tech. Probably former.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 05:25:22 No.12711410 Report

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>>12711274
>This technology will eventually enable Intergalactic Flight (successful design of a Space Drive).
Ok, this is either total, concentrated bullshit, or the feds have been hoarding paradigm shifting, zero-date technology. Probably the former.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 05:28:29 No.12711417 Report

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>>12711372
It's not. The Navy took this thing seriously and it took a FOIA request by a news outlet years after the patents were published to reveal they actually performed experiments. Someone should analyse the documentation on the experiment and actually evaluate if this is legit.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 05:34:41 No.12711433 Report

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>>12711417
I was gonna say, someone with the knowledge and background need to look this over and see if its just straight pseudo-science. Wish I had that level of knowledge to know myself but I don't. Regardless, the instant I read they actually tested this stuff a few weeks ago I knew this wasn't at least total bullshit and there maybe might be more to it.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 05:56:26 No.12711471 Report

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>>12711274
Damn, there's actually a non-zero probability that we achieve interstellar space travel within our lifetime.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 06:09:07 No.12711493 Report

Quoted By: >>12711507 >>12711557 >>12712781

we already had a thread about this here. let me reiterate

all of Pais’ claims rest on his claim about some “electromagnetic field generator”. i have read his papers on that and they are brimming with bullshit. but if you ignore that and focus on his equations, then what he is proposing is so simple it can be explained very quickly: it is this:
an insulating disk a few meters wide with a 30-50 kilocoulomb charge on it. once you can make that (which you can’t) you rotate it at 50k RPM and then you move it forward and backward with an amplitude of 1 meter at 20 GHz.

numerically this may satisfy his calculations but if you think about the physics here, it violates the known laws of physics. if you work it out, his charged disk would be moving far faster than the speed of light.

in all it is a cleverly veiled ruse that tricks readers into accepting the physically impossible and goes from there to suggesting unfathomable implications—precisely enabled by obfuscating that the assumptions violate the known physical laws

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 06:13:27 No.12711501 Report

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>>12711471
I rate that probability as less than the probability that Russian Orthodoxy is proven true within our lifetime.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 06:15:56 No.12711507 Report

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>>12711493
take your meds

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 06:18:22 No.12711518 Report

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>>12711507
says the guy promoting a pseud

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 06:20:37 No.12711522 Report

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>>12711518
try decaf

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 06:34:14 No.12711557 Report

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>>12711493
Okay glowie, this post is about the experiments that have followed from his papers. Feel free to scrutinise them.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 06:37:02 No.12711565 Report

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>>12711557
there are none anon. if you think so then please take a refresher course in critical thinking skills

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 08:33:08 No.12711831 Report

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>>12711565
Are you retarded? The 5 links posted detail the entire experimental process conducted by the Navy for one of the patents and their results. Your calculation seems valid but new information has emerged that would have to be analysed before one can actually come to a conclusion on this topic. Dismissing it without even looking at it is just intellectually dishonest/lazy

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 09:13:21 No.12711882 Report

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>>12711274
>https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/the-drive-cms-content-staging/message-editor%2F1612230083837-HEEMFG+FOIA+Part+4.pdf

CONCLUSION
110. The spin test to evaluate the HEEMFG effect was successful in spinning a charged spindle with an
estimated 2.9 x 10E-08 coulomb surface charge at one end of the spindle, at speeds up to 100 krpm/s with
acceleration rates in the +/- 30 krpm/s range in a vacuum level of 0.4 torr. The experimental equipment
for generating and maintaining the surface charge on the spindle and the instrumentation for detecting
the HEEMFG effect performed well.
111. The HEEMFG effect was not observed or disproved in the tested configuration.

Its nice for once for one of these things to have actually have magnitudes, and a description on how they actually went about constructing the experiments.

looks like some anomalies though in the recordings

This vacuum polarisation idea touches alot of spicy places
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_polarization

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 16:28:20 No.12712679 Report

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Bump

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 17:05:39 No.12712781 Report

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>>12711493
based science poster

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 18:00:53 No.12712930 Report

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>>12711274
Bump

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 21:39:43 No.12713640 Report

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a final bump, only to keep the links in OP going for others interested

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Anonymous Tue 16 Feb 2021 23:41:39 No.12714017 Report

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>>12711274
Can someone who’s actually ran a Physics experiment before or has the relevant expertise evaluate if there’s any merit to these claims? While the topic in question seems ridiculous at face value, someone still got upwards of 500k from the Navy to investigate this.

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