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Ruptured Aortas and Deadlifts: Med/Bio Anons plz help

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 19:45:34 2021 No.12671170 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12671229 >>12671264 >>12671289 >>12671308 >>12672744 >>12672811 >>12673363 >>12674373 >>12675509 >>12677216 >>12679099 >>12680479

TIL you can rupture your aorta and die from doing heavy deadlifts.

I also just watched some videos of guys fucking bleeding from their heads while deadlifting 800 or even 1000+ pounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgMtStkvyyw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K0chGkV0IE

So I need to ask from the Med and Bio anons here:

What is the maximum deadlift I could do safely without risking a ruptured aorta and/or bleeding from my fucking head??

For reference I am:
>5'7"
>196 pounds

And I pull 310 for 5 reps on trapbar deads currently.

I don't care about competitive lifting nor ego-lifting to impress other guys about "my numbers". I am only lifting for the strength/athleticism and for the V-taper to help me pull girls with big boobas, simple as.

Mods, please don't delete. I would post this on /fit/ but I don't want to get flooded by "NGMI", "lol pussy just keep lifting more weight and never stop" or "fake news by le jooooish doctors" or other such irrational nonsense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 19:59:02 No.12671224 Report

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no one can tell for sure, your aorta can pop the next time you walk up the stairs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 19:59:54 No.12671225 Report

Quoted By: >>12671296

Go see a sports medic subspecializing in deadlifting. The physiological conditions of extreme sports are not normal and their specifics are not usually studied in general medicine. You'll also have to run studies like doppler USG to check how strong your aorta is in particular and see if you dont have aneurysms already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 20:01:46 No.12671229 Report

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>>12671170
You can achieve similar feats by straining too hard taking a shit. Just don't overdo it, you should know your own body's limits by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 20:04:23 No.12671238 Report

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now my palms are sweaty

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Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 20:11:00 No.12671264 Report

Quoted By: >>12671296

>>12671170
Yeah it can cause traumatic rupture of the aorta or acute aortic dissection.
The potential spinal and paraspinal injuries are also devastating.

See a doctor specializing in sports medicine. They'll be able to assess your potential limits and how to approach lifting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 20:19:48 No.12671289 Report

Quoted By: >>12672474

>>12671170
Anon, stop being a pussy. I'm 5'3", 135lbs and can easily do 5 reps of 335 lbs. My PR was 415 lbs.
>A manlet is manlier than you
And you're fucking scared of rupturing your heart? Pussy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 20:23:27 No.12671296 Report

Quoted By: >>12671322 >>12671323

>>12671264
>>12671225
Seeing a sports doctor will be pricy and useless though. Don't be a retard anon, dont push yourself unless you're trying to be an athlete, and mind those people are cutting their lives short in the name of sport.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 20:25:19 No.12671308 Report

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>>12671170
why would anyone deadlift 1000 lbs kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 20:29:49 No.12671322 Report

Quoted By: >>12671331

>>12671296
>Seeing a sports doctor will be pricy
Sports medics aren't covered by insurance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 20:29:58 No.12671323 Report

Quoted By: >>12672174

>>12671296
If he doesn't want to push himself, I agree. I would recommend just staying at 310 or going a bit lower to maybe 280-300 depending on how you feel.
But before weightlifting in general, I think everyone should get a physical, EKG, and echo done to make sure you don't have any underlying heart problems or medical issues that would lead to sudden cardiac death or acute aortic dissection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 20:32:36 No.12671331 Report

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>>12671322
It'll depend on your insurance. Most insurances will cover most of it. You will probably need a referral though so first get a baseline physical and labs from your pcp and then ask for the referral.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 00:34:55 No.12672174 Report

Quoted By: >>12672176 >>12672614

>>12671323
>I would recommend just staying at 310 or going a bit lower to maybe 280-300 depending on how you feel.
If I, hypothetically, just stayed at a 310 lb dead indefinitely, and assuming I also supplemented with cardio and not eating seconds or thirds at every dinner like I used to a few months back, so that I am more on the CO side of the CICO (calories in calories out) equation:

Would this still, by itself, be enough for me to get a V tipper and look jacked/buff/muscular? Like I said in the OP, I'm mostly lifting for the V-taper to help me pull girls with big boobas, simple as.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 00:35:57 No.12672176 Report

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>>12672174
*V taper

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 02:19:10 No.12672474 Report

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>>12671289
>And you're fucking scared of rupturing your heart?
I mean, yeah, I'd rather that not happen.
>Pussy
k
>I'm 5'3", 135lbs and can easily do 5 reps of 335 lbs. My PR was 415 lbs.
>A manlet is manlier than you
Props. You win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 03:10:05 No.12672595 Report

Quoted By: >>12672801 >>12672839

I got fit as fuck and tried deadlifting a couple times

Its strictly for faggots. Seriously. /fit/ is a fucking joke and the deadlift is a meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 03:21:12 No.12672614 Report

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>>12672174
I really don't know. As a general practicioner I'd recommend you to seek a honest girl whose goal is to make a family and nurture children instead.

I guess this is pretty interesting knowledge and a good approach to medicine as a service rather than the usual loss aversion approach. Your lifestyle could make me good money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 04:12:04 No.12672744 Report

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>>12671170
The Japanese voice actor for the character Bulma from Dragon Ball died while driving her car due to her aorta rupturing. It can happen any time, just like an aneurysm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 04:36:35 No.12672801 Report

Quoted By: >>12672925

>>12672595
Speak for yourself. After doing office work and warehousing in my early 20s my lower back from all kinds of screwed up from the strains. Deadlifting fixed it right up when yoga, regular stretching, and posture/gait adjustments couldn't. I don't go too heavy though.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 04:42:18 No.12672811 Report

Quoted By: >>12672839 >>12675216

>>12671170
You thought the never deadlift warning was a meme bro? I legit quit it. They aren’t even good for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 04:58:39 No.12672839 Report

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>>12672595
>>12672811
why is deadlifting a meme?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 05:49:47 No.12672925 Report

Quoted By: >>12672945

>>12672801
>I don't go too heavy though.
How heavy do you go?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 06:03:07 No.12672945 Report

Quoted By: >>12678800

>>12672925
230 lbs at the moment. I prioritize going for around 14 reps a set with perfect form throughout the range of motion. I find more value in doing a low weight-high rep program for a variey of reasons, and try to "train, not strain".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 09:55:37 No.12673363 Report

Quoted By: >>12674370

>>12671170
Fun fact: You can die from a brain aneurysm if you strain too hard while taking a shit.
Are you never going to go to the bathroom again?
Whatever's going to happen is going to happen. One day, you will expire and your body will rot away. It's inevitable, so try to enjoy whatever little time you have here in this perfect little dystopia and don't worry about fate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 18:02:01 No.12674370 Report

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>>12673363
Some people are more at risk of aorta ruptures though, and some activities that cause high blood pressure in the short-term (like straining to lift a heavy ass weight) are more likely to cause that to happen though, right? That's not the point of the OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 18:03:13 No.12674373 Report

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>>12671170
>TIL you can rupture your aorta and die from doing heavy deadlifts.
I would assume that's only a risk in someone that has some kind of preexisting condition that went undiagnosed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 22:11:32 No.12675216 Report

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>>12672811
What about trapbar though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Feb 2021 23:28:35 No.12675509 Report

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>>12671170
the aorta is very sturdy and i don't think your heart can increase the blood pressure so much it blows your aorta, other vessels tho....
i think once the effort becomes too high you will naturally faint because all blood is going to muscles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Feb 2021 09:14:12 No.12677172 Report

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on the topic of this subject:

i'm 19, 90 kg and 186 cm

is it not safe for me to take up weightlifting? my whole life my dad forbade me from doing that because his doctor told him that excessive weightlifting takes a toll on your heart and can make it explode

i mean sure, he is right, but I'm not 50 nor do i plan on killing myself by lifting weights

so, lifting within reason doesn't have any negative side effects right? assuming i only take protein and don't touch roids

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Feb 2021 09:37:25 No.12677216 Report

Quoted By: >>12678554 >>12678776 >>12678785

>>12671170
>What is the maximum deadlift I could do safely without risking a ruptured aorta and/or bleeding from my fucking head??
It's not related to the weight so much as it is related to your bodys physical characteristics. The reason why it happens is pretty simple, hard lift requires intense muscle work on the level that the human body isn't really designed to handle. When you lift you build abnormally large muscles and then during the lift you activate your hands, core and legs basically simultaneously for the lift which causes a huge spike in blood pressure which can break blood vessels in places like your nose or even the aorta leading to death.
The obvious solution is to not try lifts you aren't comfortable with and ease up your "record" slowly even if you feel you could pull a bigger weight. Proper warm ups, healthy diet and staying within your limits will be the keys to staying healthy. With big weights you could also pre tension your muscles, for instance in the atlas ball you could tightly hug the ball for a second before actually lifting it or you could tighten your core before you begin the lift on a standard bar the idea being that you smooth over that blood pressure spike e.g. put 60% of your power into it and remain stationary and then pull it up after that. Obviously doing something like that might weaken the max lift as you can't use momentum to your advantage as easily but it will be better for the blood vessels.

>V-taper to help me pull girls with big boobas
You don't really need to lift huge weight for that anyways so there probably won't be any problems.

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Anonymous Sun 07 Feb 2021 18:37:21 No.12678554 Report

Quoted By: >>12678829

>>12677216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K_7KROYFw8
Franco Columbu was only 5'5" and in that video he pulls 700 lbs (his max was 730 I think). Of course, Columbu wasn't natty, he was on gear. Still a beast and a legend though.

Here he is again, this time lifting the back end of a car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hnPwR3QcCU

He recently died in 2019, of a heart attack while swimming iirc. Did his heart attack have anything to do with his hard lifting and gear/roids from his younger days catching up to him? Or do you think it was just his age at that point (78)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Feb 2021 19:42:16 No.12678776 Report

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>>12677216
>You don't really need to lift huge weight for that anyways so there probably won't be any problems.
You don't? I thought the bigger/stronger your muscles are as a man, the bigger/fuller the breasts of the women you're able to attract; in a linear relationship (bigger muscles = bigger booba). Isn't that a basic principle of human sexual dimorphism? Or is that not the case?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Feb 2021 19:44:11 No.12678785 Report

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>>12677216
>You don't really need to lift huge weight for that anyways so there probably won't be any problems.
You don't? I thought the bigger/stronger your muscles are as a man, the bigger/fuller the breasts of the women you're able to sexually attract; in a linear relationship (bigger muscles = bigger booba). Isn't that a basic principle of human sexual dimorphism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Feb 2021 19:49:19 No.12678800 Report

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>>12672945
This is the best way of doing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Feb 2021 19:56:05 No.12678829 Report

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>>12678554
Roids definitely affect cardiovascular health and increase risk of MI.
Heavy lifting can put strain on your heart leading to MI/CVA if you're already at risk.
But based on his age and my lack of access to his health records, can't say what "caused" the MI. Can only say those activities likely increased risk, anabolic steroids more so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Feb 2021 21:23:45 No.12679099 Report

Quoted By: >>12679108 >>12680347

>>12671170
People like Larry Wheels and Eddie Hall are pulling 900+ lbs on 1g+ a month of exogenous testosterone and countless other drugs that will probably gonna make their heart pop at some point anyway. You'll be fine lifting normal person weight as long as you don't have a debilitating genetic heart defect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Feb 2021 21:28:00 No.12679108 Report

Quoted By: >>12680346

>>12679099
That's why you should get a full workup done before you start lifting because most people don't know they have an underlying heart issue until it becomes symptomatic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Feb 2021 04:01:33 No.12680346 Report

Quoted By: >>12680347

>>12679108

>That's why you should get a full workup done before you start lifting because most people don't know they have an underlying heart issue until it becomes symptomatic.
I see. Point taken.

>You'll be fine lifting normal person weight as long as you don't have a debilitating genetic heart defect.
By "normal person weight", do you mean the maximum weight that I will be able to gradually progress to lifting Natty AKA without using roids?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Feb 2021 04:02:50 No.12680347 Report

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>>12680346
Also meant for: >>12679099

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Feb 2021 04:56:40 No.12680479 Report

Quoted By: >>12680552

>>12671170
If youre that scared anon just dont do deadlifts
Theyre not necessary

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Feb 2021 05:32:58 No.12680552 Report

Quoted By: >>12680590

>>12680479
But I want to get a gf with big tits. How can I do that if I don't have big muscles to offer in exchange?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Feb 2021 05:52:18 No.12680590 Report

Quoted By: >>12680635

>>12680552
Date a fat girl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Feb 2021 06:14:31 No.12680635 Report

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>>12680590
Like Momo Momose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Feb 2021 06:25:19 No.12680662 Report

Quoted By: >>12680694 >>12680699

Lifting your own body weight is far better than free weights.

t. years of weightlifting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Feb 2021 06:40:33 No.12680694 Report

Quoted By: >>12680699

>>12680662
>Lifting your own body weight is far better than free weights.
How do you lift your own bodyweight? I don't get the mechanics of how you do that. Srs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Feb 2021 06:42:12 No.12680699 Report

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>>12680662
>>12680694 (me)
Lifting my own bodyweight sounds to me like trying to look at my own back without using a mirror. Pls explain

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