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Anonymous Thu 04 Feb 23:48:15 2021 No.12668166 View Reply Original Report

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How do intrusive thoughts and OCD work, biochemically? How do I deal with my mind trying to deliberately taint things I like by "tying" negative thoughts and images to them, like some sort of hijacked aversion therapy done by my own mind on me?

For example, when I think of something I really like, like chocolate chip cookies for example, my mind will then conjure a bad image/feeling to forcefully and permanently associate with chocolate chip cookies. Some of these images/feelings are simply unspeakable. The image that got forcefully associated with chocolate chip cookies was someone shitting in my mouth and it feels nauseatingly real despite me knowing better.

I don't know if it's some combo of schizophrenia, OCD, and ADHD/Aspergers, but I would like some way to get rid of it. It's not life breaking but I'm rarely ever happy even when I'm supposed to be relaxing.

What do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Feb 2021 23:52:47 No.12668178 Report

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You see OP, biochemically, you don't have any control over your brain, you're just along for the ride. So you'll just be consumed by miserable thoughts until you die sad and alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Feb 2021 23:56:07 No.12668194 Report

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Do shrooms after you do research. I cured my crippling OCD after a few shroom trips. Also "What Ive Learned" has an interesting video on OCD and brain lock on youtube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 00:31:06 No.12668334 Report

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Ah shit, the assocation OCD you describe, I have the same thing, I really hate it, I guess the solution is to ignore it everytime it happens no matter how often, kinda like fighting off agoraphobia, the terror/fear assocation and negative "sticky" thoughts are tied to something previously pleasant or neutral and its about undoing that association by constantly exposing yourself to the situation and crucially not-reacting to the learned and automatic negative behavior/thoughts which is easier said than done....

Another strategy I find helpful comes from Buddhist thought, and its not meditation (though I think that could also help with OCD in the long term) and its more mindfulness centered on these maxims-

>Contemplate the opposite
Basically what it says instead of trying to fight off negative thoughts/associations try to replace them with neutral or positive ones, don't prioritize and fixate on the negative, after all-

>Thoughts are just thoughts
This one requires mindfulness, seperate thoughts from reality, requires not reacting to negative/disgusting thoughts as though they are yours, its just the brain being retarded, but think about it in the same way that imagining water does not make you wet, you dont react to that thought and run to grab an umbrella, but you react to your negative thoughts/associations like they are really happening, why?

My guess is we have some sort of extra sensitivity to negative thoughts, react stronger to them than to neutral or positive thoughts, assign more meaning or significance to them. So the buddhist approach is to train yourself to not react to them, or their associated negative emotions, easier said than done...

This association or associative OCD is truly the worst, search on google to find more people who have it discussing their advice and strategies too it may help

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 00:41:02 No.12668374 Report

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>>12668166
No clue, but my guess? Stop reacting to those negative associations. Not even negatively. Horrible intrusive thought? Don't give it the "ew no!" reaction. Just mentally shrug.

That MIGHT work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Feb 2021 01:56:02 No.12668696 Report

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Alternatively its said you have to not react to your reactions, cause the reactions can be instant, especially negative ones, so you need to notice that initial reaction and then choose not to proceed further like you said

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