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Redpill me on 4D Mon 01 Feb 06:04:49 2021 No.12651610 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12651656 >>12653032 >>12653110 >>12654891 >>12654902 >>12654929

Spatial dimension or spacetime?

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Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 06:19:27 No.12651630 Report

Quoted By: >>12651635

I wish I had the skill required to make this .gif more representative of 4D. shouldn’t the animation be tesselated through all sides of both cubes so that it fills the black space in the image with undulating wormy geometry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 06:21:49 No.12651635 Report

Quoted By: >>12651675

>>12651630
I'm highly motivated to try an alternative. I'm going to work on it tomorrow. Right now I only have ideas for regular polygons, but depending on the results I may be able to adapt the approach to more complex shapes. Stay tuned.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 06:27:23 No.12651645 Report

Quoted By: >>12653079

found this post that seems pretty high IQ

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Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 06:29:44 No.12651656 Report

Quoted By: >>12651679

>>12651610
why not both

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Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 06:35:55 No.12651675 Report

Quoted By: >>12651682 >>12651686

>>12651635
just do me a favor and don’t isolate the object, try and tile it in all directions to the border of the image, because anything else is pretty clearly a cross section, like when we do cryosectioning of human cadavers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 06:37:14 No.12651679 Report

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>>12651656
"In their paper, Sorli and Fiscaletti argue that, while the concepts of special relativity are sound, the introduction of 4D Minkowski spacetime has created a century-long misunderstanding of time as the fourth dimension of space that lacks any experimental support. They argue that well-known time dilation experiments, such as those demonstrating that clocks do in fact run slower in high-speed airplanes than at rest, support special relativity and time dilation but not necessarily Minkowski spacetime or length contraction. According to the conventional view, clocks run slower at high speeds due to the nature of Minkowski spacetime itself as a result of both time dilation and length contraction. But Sorli and Fiscaletti argue that the slow clocks can better be described by the relative velocity between the two reference frames, which the clocks measure, not which the clocks are a part of. In this view, space and time are two separate entities."

https://phys.org/news/2012-04-physicists-abolish-fourth-dimension-space.html

i have no idea lol but this article got me thinking

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 06:40:04 No.12651682 Report

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>>12651675
Well the crux of my idea hinges on the following: if I were a 2-D creature, and could only draw things in 1-D on a line, how would I attempt to draw 1) a 2-D object and 2) a 3-D object?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 06:44:20 No.12651686 Report

Quoted By: >>12653119

>>12651675
as someone in another thread said, " what you're seeing is a moving 3d shadow of a rotating 4D cube, on a 2d screen."

ESPRIT ??

ESPRIT ?? Mon 01 Feb 2021 18:03:39 No.12653032 Report

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>>12651610
does this smmetry have some kind of parralax such as a cube from which you can't look at both sides at once with one eye?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 18:24:38 No.12653079 Report

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>>12651645
>it's
ngmi

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 18:39:20 No.12653110 Report

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>>12651610
I'm still not convinced by either honestly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 01 Feb 2021 18:43:10 No.12653119 Report

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>>12651686
but I think there can be a better approximation of 4D if the animation is tiled, so that the “movement” is happening in a mesh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Feb 2021 03:03:32 No.12654891 Report

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>>12651610
>spacetime?
are you one of those anons believing space can exist without time if there are no interactions taking place thus time is an emerging artifact?

then assumes inspite of the entire universe itself is one-same-body-of-space and has interactions in it somewhere...
yet somehow an imaginary localized "unconnected" bit of itself without interactions taking place...
will yield the "no-time-existing" at that supposedly "isolated" bit?...

how is any so called "isolated" bit of the universe isolated from the remaining bits of itself (all the universe)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Feb 2021 03:10:18 No.12654902 Report

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>>12651610
crick or stream?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Feb 2021 03:27:17 No.12654929 Report

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>>12651610
Mathematically, neither. 4D just means a vector space with 4 vectors in its basis. You can interpret those basis vectors as anything you want, be they units of distance or time or anything else.

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