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NASA is not fit to carry space exploration anymore

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 13:04:22 2021 No.12645192 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12645257 >>12645261 >>12645273 >>12645288 >>12645808

And everybody knows it

https://youtu.be/74THdkT-F5A

It would be cheaper, faster and more efficient to found private companies like SpaceX

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 13:10:28 No.12645208 Report

Quoted By: >>12645288

>Average age of a NASA`s employee is 60 years.

LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 13:20:40 No.12645223 Report

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>number one reason is politics
>and a lack of public interest

Lol the usual excuses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 13:35:58 No.12645257 Report

Quoted By: >>12645270 >>12645506

>>12645192
>I know! The American public should relinquish a public company with public interests they have control over in favor of a private company with private interests that is controlled by a megalomaniacal jackass
Not going to happen Chud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 13:38:59 No.12645261 Report

Quoted By: >>12645270 >>12645407 >>12645506

>>12645192
Fuck off. Sick of taxpayer-funded research being handed to private companies for free so they can monopolize our resources. We need to move into space as a nation looking to colonize and advance, lifting all of our people up in the process.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 13:47:36 No.12645270 Report

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>>12645257
>>12645261

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 13:48:34 No.12645273 Report

Quoted By: >>12645282 >>12645506

>>12645192
Just a reminder that railroads were to be built by public authorities but libertarians (Jacksonian Democrats) cried foul, so then they were built by private companies, and then those same rural Democrats votes to create the Interstate Commerce Commission which set the price of rail for cargo and also the wages paid to labor. Funny watching lolbertarians both wanting private companies to do everything and then freaking out and demanding government regulates everything when “monopoliesL are created.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 13:53:24 No.12645282 Report

Quoted By: >>12645296

>>12645273
>you made it
>you pay for it
>we will regulate it
welcome to gubment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 13:56:09 No.12645288 Report

Quoted By: >>12645330

>>12645192
No Von Braun
No NASA
simple as
>>12645208
now look at the average ethnicity

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 14:02:20 No.12645296 Report

Quoted By: >>12645334 >>12645373 >>12645506

>>12645282
Infrastructure (roads, waterways, and early moon settlements) should be constructed by the state and then paid for with tolls by private industry for conducting commerce and extracting resources. Otherwise, we’ll have another Battle of Blair Mountain on the moon/asteroids. I love coming on /sci/ bcuz you retards don’t know /his/ at all, and are absolutely destroying the future as a result.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 14:27:49 No.12645330 Report

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>>12645288
No Drumpf
No USA
It’s that simple. Shut it down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 14:33:33 No.12645334 Report

Quoted By: >>12645362

>>12645296
>government should build things then sell them to their buddies for pennies on the dollar

Sure thing mr Republican

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 14:50:05 No.12645362 Report

Quoted By: >>12645373 >>12645506

>>12645334
Alternative is private companies build and maintain public goods. I don’t even feel the need to tell you how bad of an idea this is. Read about the Credit Mobilier Scandal, observe how communication and financial infrastructure (which is in theory a public good) is being misused by private interests to silence dissent.
If you really think Bezos will shut people off Web Services he doesn’t like, but will let them use his space infrastructure, you’re a fool and deserve your disappointing future.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 14:57:24 No.12645373 Report

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>>12645296
>>12645362
You're from /his/? Then there's a unique form of "destroying the future" happening right now that you're blindly ignoring.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 15:06:58 No.12645390 Report

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>>12645373
You’re 100% correct. I dropped my history degree and am now a based EE major. Time to stop wealth transfers, and embark instead on wealth creation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 15:14:28 No.12645407 Report

Quoted By: >>12645634

>>12645261
The real problem is that NASA went uncontested for quite a while, not that it's an argument of public vs private priorities. NASA aren't exactly giving you the benefits of taxpayer funded research, they're more akin to something like Lockheed Martin. So in other words, the net positive is competition from all around.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 15:59:28 No.12645506 Report

Quoted By: >>12645634

>>12645257
>>12645261
>>12645273
>>12645296
>>12645362

That point would be valid if NASA were building space stations and bases in the Moon with taxpayers money.
They are not.
They are using billions of public money to found expensive missions so someone can write a paper about the soil in some forgotten asteroid, instead of building something that has a future.
The public sector is filling the void because the public sector is doing nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 16:26:48 No.12645634 Report

Quoted By: >>12645693

>>12645407
True. So let’s compete with China and Russia. Not completely opposed to handing out contracts, but we all must admit it is dangerous to allow private companies to claim ownership of the Moon, and even asteroids in the present.

>>12645506
So when your public officials stop doing their jobs, your plan is to keep paying them and then also let them pass contracts to their friends? Really good plan anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 16:39:42 No.12645693 Report

Quoted By: >>12645696 >>12645785

>>12645634
>So when your public officials stop doing their jobs, your plan is to keep paying them and then also let them pass contracts to their friends? Really good plan anon.

When did I say that? Your strawman is definitely subpar.
When the public officials stop doing their jobs, make clear targets so they do it right, or kick them out and subsidize the private sector to do it.
NASA has not been doing anything of note for 30 years. They are wasting public money and obstructing private companies that can do it with excessive regulation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 16:40:52 No.12645696 Report

Quoted By: >>12645790

>>12645693
>When did I say that? Your strawman is definitely subpar.
Not that guy but you made an unfortunate typo.

You said "The public sector is filling the void because the public sector is doing nothing" when in context I'm pretty sure you meant "The private sector is filling the void because the public sector is doing nothing"

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 17:12:29 No.12645785 Report

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>>12645693
Original guy here. You’re right, sorry for straw man.
I think we all recognize it’s political obstructions getting in the way, but what I’m saying is, these same obstructive bureaucrats also are the ones handing out contracts. I just don’t see how saying “contract the private sector” will help... After all, it’s a long ways before any of this is privately funded.

Personally I’m tired of letting politicians do jack shit and we excuse it by saying, “well, public sector is wasteful, nothing we can do.” Politicians don’t solve energy crisis, for example, so we are now considering shutting down entire industries “in the name of science”. Politicians used to build roads and dams, but that stopped in the 70’s. We must return to the American System of economics.

It’s a tough situation and, you’re right, many administrators need to be fired. Also, any research not immediately related to the moon mission or space weather needs to be cut (ex: climate change research)

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 17:14:18 No.12645790 Report

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>>12645696
>You said "The public sector is filling the void because the public sector is doing nothing" when in context I'm pretty sure you meant "The private sector is filling the void because the public sector is doing nothing"
This
Thanks

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 17:19:46 No.12645808 Report

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>>12645192
There are some things that have too many hurdles for a private company to invest in i.e anything nuclear related like power sources or engines

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