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Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 20:05:48 2021 No.12638828 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12639746 >>12639755 >>12639890 >>12639924 >>12640685 >>12642402

>Carbon deposits being extracted and burned come from fossilized plants mostly
>This carbon was once floating around Earth with no problems
>Rereleasing it will end humanity
I don't think humanity will end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 20:45:20 No.12639096 Report

Quoted By: >>12639302

the only way this utterly retarded logic could make sense is if you're a young earth creationist. In which case you don't care about evidence or science, or anything really, so I won't waste time arguing with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 21:15:06 No.12639302 Report

Quoted By: >>12639715

>>12639096
>DUUUH!! You're a retarded theist if you think this.
Kys. Address the arguments.
Tell me how carbon that was floating around would end humanity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:00:04 No.12639715 Report

Quoted By: >>12639738

>>12639302
>carbon that was floating around
sequestered over billions of years, yes.
do you know what the greenhouse effect is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:07:36 No.12639738 Report

Quoted By: >>12639775

>>12639715
Yes. Greenhouse gases get into the atmosphere that traps heat energy in the atmosphere.
What's your point? You're dismissing evolution as if we've never had extinction events that bottle necked life on earth yet it still diversified.
Evolution is an unconscious process. If you think climate change would kill all living beings leaving no survivors compared to a fucking huge asteroid, then you're delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:10:52 No.12639746 Report

Quoted By: >>12639761

>>12638828
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:13:39 No.12639755 Report

Quoted By: >>12639773 >>12639970 >>12640680

>>12638828
Humanity will end, but not from climate change.
It will end due to unrestrained growth and depletion of non-renewable resources. Climate change and the 6th mass extinction are just the icing on the cake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:15:08 No.12639761 Report

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>>12639746
>Retard
>Doesn't explain why
Okay, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:16:53 No.12639773 Report

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>>12639755
That's why my plan is to be self dependent and live off my self. Capitalism WILL enforce itself as the infrastructure big business depends on collapses as we deplete the resource they depend on.

Off-grid IS the future. Be self-sustaining right now or you WILL not survive the upcoming filter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:17:05 No.12639775 Report

Quoted By: >>12639779

>>12639738
>Evolution is an unconscious process. If you think climate change would kill all living beings leaving no survivors compared to a fucking huge asteroid, then you're delusional.
pretty low bar there, you've jumped right past all arguments people actually care about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:18:44 No.12639779 Report

Quoted By: >>12639793 >>12639908

>>12639775
>pretty low bar there, you've jumped right past all arguments people actually care about.
>OH NOOOOOO!!! DARWINIAN SELECTION WILL KICK BACK IN!!!
What the fuck are you complaining about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:22:20 No.12639793 Report

Quoted By: >>12639815

>>12639779
most people don't really like the idea of huge parts of the planet becoming uninhabitable, massive global food insecurity, worsening natural disasters, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:28:22 No.12639815 Report

Quoted By: >>12639863

>>12639793
Fuck them.
We are in an upcoming "4th industrial revolution" which is just meme talk to the next step of human evolution. Just like agrarian evolution, it took several THOUSAND years. Some humans need not apply for the future of humanity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:43:09 No.12639863 Report

Quoted By: >>12639940 >>12644605

>>12639815
well that was a quick thread
if you're an edgy nihilistic child then global warming is a good thing, anyone else it's a pretty big problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:50:45 No.12639890 Report

Quoted By: >>12640464

>>12638828
>>Carbon deposits being extracted and burned come from fossilized plants mostly
No, the majority comes from carbon in plankton that accumulated over millions of years and is now being released over a few hundred. Timeframes matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:53:22 No.12639908 Report

Quoted By: >>12639940 >>12644605

>>12639779
Don't complain when I "naturally select" you out of the genepool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:57:24 No.12639924 Report

Quoted By: >>12639940 >>12644605

>>12638828
It's not the amount of carbon that's the problem, it's the rate at which it changes.

>Rereleasing it will end humanity
Nice strawman.

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Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:03:42 No.12639940 Report

Quoted By: >>12639943 >>12639955 >>12639983 >>12644605

>>12639863
>Noooo!!! You don't undertsnad!!! Survival of humanity matter!!!
What is this speciesist pov?
Science IS morally nihilistic. Whether you like it or not.
Calling it edgy won't make it otherwise. Put your biases aside.

>>12639908
Don't complain when I snipe you before you get in a close range to my territory either.

>>12639924
>It's not the amount of carbon that's the problem, it's the rate at which it changes.
Doesn't matter. What matter is whether life endured a similar environment which it did, by a lot.
>pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:05:29 No.12639943 Report

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>>12639940
>Don't complain when I snipe you before you get in a close range to my territory either.
*teleports behind you*
Nothing personnel kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:07:40 No.12639955 Report

Quoted By: >>12639975

>>12639940
>What matter is whether life endured a similar environment which it did, by a lot.
Why does life enduring matter? Nothing matters you fucking pussy lmfao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:09:50 No.12639970 Report

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>>12639755
Humanity will not end, just a bunch of poorfags will die, and then, who will vote for the leftists?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:11:51 No.12639975 Report

Quoted By: >>12639982

>>12639955
>Why does life enduring matter? Nothing matters you fucking pussy lmfao.
Shush! I am just trying to get the moral fag to understand nihilism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:13:59 No.12639982 Report

Quoted By: >>12640020

>>12639975
Why are you trying to do anything? Nothing matters!

MOOOOOM WHERE ARE MY TENDIES????

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:14:09 No.12639983 Report

Quoted By: >>12640026

>>12639940
>Science IS morally nihilistic. Whether you like it or not.
No, science isn't moral, there's a very big difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:17:31 No.12639994 Report

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>nihilism and not existentialism
Go home you edgy 14 year old

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:28:12 No.12640020 Report

Quoted By: >>12640039

>>12639982
>Why are you trying to do anything? Nothing matters!
Nigger, you don't understand moral nihilism.
It just means that morality is not a valid argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:29:26 No.12640026 Report

Quoted By: >>12640040

>>12639983
>No, science isn't moral, there's a very big difference.
>Science doesn't care about morality, but also, using morality is a valid argument to prioritize one thing over another.
Die in a ditch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:32:35 No.12640039 Report

Quoted By: >>12640124

>>12640020
And why are you pointing that out? Is not understanding "bad?" Are invalid arguments "bad?" LMFAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:32:37 No.12640040 Report

Quoted By: >>12640132 >>12640687

>>12640026
>using morality is a valid argument to prioritize one thing over another.
It absolutely is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 01:07:41 No.12640124 Report

Quoted By: >>12640132 >>12640405 >>12640456 >>12640542

>>12640039
>And why are you pointing that out?
Because you think moral nihilism means nothing matters and we should just kill ourselves. It is not.

>Is not understanding "bad?" Are invalid arguments "bad?"
No. If I WANT to increase Darwinian selection, I'd try and achieve that goal. Whether it is "bad" or "good" doesn't matter. Does that make sense?

>It absolutely is.
No. Saying "I want to increase the population of humanity because it is a good thing" is not a valid argument.
Saying "I want to increase Darwinian selection because it would evolutionary select for more refined genes for our current environment" is a valid reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 01:08:43 No.12640132 Report

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>>12640040
Look at the second part of >>12640124

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 02:42:41 No.12640405 Report

Quoted By: >>12640414 >>12640463 >>12640479

>>12640124
>OOOOHHHH I'M SOOO SMART, MORALS DON'T MATTERRRRR OOOHHHH I'M SO COOL PAY ATTENTION TO ME PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Yeah have fun with that. Absolutely no one agrees with you or cares about what you think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 02:46:12 No.12640414 Report

Quoted By: >>12640421

>>12640405
I agree with the guy who isn't having this spastic rage over having his cult questioned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 02:48:39 No.12640421 Report

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>>12640414
>over having his cult questioned.
yeah the good ol' morality cult can't wait to get rid of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 03:05:46 No.12640456 Report

Quoted By: >>12640479

>>12640124
No, I understand that there exist people who think that "you shouldn't rape and murder children just because it feels good" isn't a valid argument.
Fortunately we have prisons and executions for when these people start behaving in a logically consistent fashion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 03:08:20 No.12640463 Report

Quoted By: >>12640466

>>12640405
>Yeah have fun with that. Absolutely no one agrees with you or cares about what you think.
Superb argument. You showed him there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 03:08:42 No.12640464 Report

Quoted By: >>12640467 >>12640474

>>12639890
this reply literally destroys OP and he ignores it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 03:09:16 No.12640466 Report

Quoted By: >>12640489

>>12640463
when discussing what society should or shouldn't do it's really the only one that matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 03:10:27 No.12640467 Report

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>>12640464
This thread has been fun, because we kind of skipped past the whole "is climate change real" phase and went straight to "why shouldn't I rape babys"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 03:13:49 No.12640474 Report

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>>12640464
No, it just misses the point. At some point, there was zero fossil fuels, and the carbon was floating in the air.
Extinction events heat up and kill way faster than climate change can achieve no matter how fast we burn all the deposits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 03:14:55 No.12640479 Report

Quoted By: >>12640494

>>12640405
>Absolutely no one agrees with you or cares about what you think.
How the fuck is that even a response? You're not even addressing the point.

>>12640456
>But muh rapist
Kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 03:17:30 No.12640489 Report

Quoted By: >>12640498

>>12640466
>when discussing what society should or shouldn't do it's really the only one that matters.
Yeah, I guess if society wants to kill you, its opinion is the only one that matters. Same if they want to kill half the population for one or another specific characteristic. Kys, midwit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 03:18:26 No.12640494 Report

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>>12640479
>But muh rapist
again, humans understand certain things are acceptable and some aren't. We call this morality, and we imprison and kill those lesser beings who can't understand this. It doesn't have to be logical it's just the way things work, sorry if this hurts your feelings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 03:19:30 No.12640498 Report

Quoted By: >>12640620

>>12640489
>Same if they want to kill half the population for one or another specific characteristic
is this wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 03:32:44 No.12640542 Report

Quoted By: >>12640625

>>12640124
>Because you think moral nihilism means nothing matters and we should just kill ourselves.
No I don't. Retard.

>No. If I WANT to increase Darwinian selection, I'd try and achieve that goal.
You forgot that no one cares about what you want.

>Saying "I want to increase Darwinian selection because it would evolutionary select for more refined genes for our current environment" is a valid reason.
That's not even a reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 04:04:12 No.12640620 Report

Quoted By: >>12640645

>>12640498
>is this wrong?
Not inherently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 04:06:18 No.12640625 Report

Quoted By: >>12640639

>>12640542
>You forgot that no one cares about what you want.
Who gives a shit? How does that matter? No one cared about fags 20 years ago.

>That's not even a reason.
It's a motive for my intention. It is a reason. What the fuck are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 04:15:39 No.12640639 Report

Quoted By: >>12640687

>>12640625
>Who gives a shit?
No one, exactly.

>It's a motive for my intention.
No, it's not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 04:18:07 No.12640645 Report

Quoted By: >>12640687

>>12640620
so why bring it up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 04:32:13 No.12640680 Report

Quoted By:

>>12639755
Oh come on, all we need is more wind turbines and 13 billion humans will totally be sustainable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 04:37:58 No.12640685 Report

Quoted By: >>12640717

>>12638828
The thing is carbon rises temp but also rises humidity which reduces desertification, forest fires and fuck jannies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 04:39:01 No.12640687 Report

Quoted By: >>12640693

>>12640639
>No, it's not.
Okay, retard.

>>12640645
Because you said morality matters, assuming you're >>12640040.
If really does, then it shouldn't really matter to you if they decide it is moral to cull half the population, including you, because it is morally good. They are after all the only one that hold the ultimate decision. Right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 04:42:50 No.12640693 Report

Quoted By: >>12640704

>>12640687
I tend toward ethical realism. That said I'm really not interested in conversations about metaphysics on a science board. Though you've still failed to provide a reason for why anyone should care about what you think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 04:48:36 No.12640704 Report

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>>12640693
>Though you've still failed to provide a reason for why anyone should care about what you think.
Why does that matter? All I have to do is put my ideas out there. If you care, come on and join the circle jerk. If you don't, go join another.

Why the fuck should I give you a reason? What the fuck do you want?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 04:56:55 No.12640717 Report

Quoted By:

>>12640685
The rise in humidity and surface temp causes stratification in the upper and lower atmosphere. As the temperature difference increases so does the likelihood of the colder upper air crashing down onto the poles.
Modern weather models support the theory that global warming causes ice ages. The polar vortexes the last two years made me stop laughing at that article I read too long ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 18:20:02 No.12642402 Report

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>>12638828
The problem is the transition to a new equilibrium.
But that equilibrium may well be thousands of year ahead.
Even if the result is profitable (more green biomasses) the disruption in ecosystems may cause water shortages / droughts in some parts of the globe, overabundance in other parts.
Disturbance of equilibrium always cause problems in a fine tuned world that can only adapt up to a certain speed.
The problem is that the greenhouse gas disruption and positive feedbacks induced are on such a short timescale compared to most other geologic extinction events.
Sure, part of humanity will probably survive.
Survival of the fittest as always.

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Anonymous Sat 30 Jan 2021 06:25:00 No.12644605 Report

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>>12639940
>>>12639863
>>Noooo!!! You don't undertsnad!!! Survival of humanity matter!!!
>What is this speciesist pov?
>Science IS morally nihilistic. Whether you like it or not.
>Calling it edgy won't make it otherwise. Put your biases aside.
>>>12639908
>Don't complain when I snipe you before you get in a close range to my territory either.
>>>12639924
>>It's not the amount of carbon that's the problem, it's the rate at which it changes.
>Doesn't matter. What matter is whether life endured a similar environment which it did, by a lot.
>>pic related

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