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Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 23:26:10 2021 No.12635633 View Reply Original Report

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How does a virus from the 80s have no vaccine? Are scientist dumb and they found a vaccine for covid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 23:27:43 No.12635643 Report

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As long as you don't fuck gays and don't inject drugs you are almost 100% safe, so little need for vaccine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jan 2021 23:30:26 No.12635652 Report

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>>12635633
read the wiki on HIV. that virus is fucking crazy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 00:13:06 No.12635752 Report

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>>12635633
With mRNA vaccines they might be able to create an HIV vaccine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 00:46:36 No.12635834 Report

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>>12635752
Possibly, but I don't see why a new vector will help. The problem with producing an HIV vaccine isn't that you can't create an immune response or stimulate the production of antibodies, it's that the antibodies that you do create don't protect from the virus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 00:58:01 No.12635866 Report

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>>12635633
Another lab-made bioweapon, that's why.
Viruses just don't appear out of the blue in nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 02:41:49 No.12636080 Report

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>>12635633
Because the AlphabetsAgencies said so

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 02:48:45 No.12636099 Report

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>>12635866
>Another lab-made bioweapon, that's why.
I would believe that about covid 19, since it appeared a couple years after crispr came out, in a city with a virology lab, in a country with a bioweapons research program
But hvi? Scientists were still figuring out how to read dna back then
>Viruses just don't appear out of the blue in nature.
Are you a creationist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 04:35:56 No.12636371 Report

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>>12635866
>Viruses just don't appear out of the blue in nature.
Yes, they kinda do. They mutate and jump from a species to a new one, and that makes them look as if they came out of nowhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 04:39:55 No.12636381 Report

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>>12635633
There no instance of a patient being infected with HIV then fighting it on their own like with other viruses. Even if a very small minority of patients fight it off, researchers can gather samples from patients to analyze what exactly the body is doing to fight this thing off. That's why a cure for HIV is so elusive while we have effective treatments that can fully rid patients of infection for HBV and HCV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 06:02:24 No.12636533 Report

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>>12636381
There are a few fringe cases like that, but the only one I've heard of where they tried to collect a sample the patient wouldn't consent to it because they weren't going to pay him or give him any credit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 06:18:14 No.12636565 Report

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>>12635643
You're a lot less likely to catch HIV from sharing dirty needles than having gay sex, anon. Blood banks would have had to throw out a lot fewer batches if they opened their doors to heroin addicts than gay men.

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Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 06:18:22 No.12636566 Report

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>>12635633
>How does a virus from the 80s have no vaccine?

The virus literally integrates into your chromosomes, into the very DNA. There's no cure for that shit. Worse yet, it directly attacks this way the very mechanisms the body uses to defend against itself. There's no cure for something like that. It's crazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 06:43:52 No.12636608 Report

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Is it possible for a 'child' virus of SARS-CoV-2 and HIV having the terrifying characteristics of each other to exist? Ignore for a moment the fact that both viruses are from different families. Would it spell the end of us? How would another pandemic of this 'child' virus play out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 06:44:31 No.12636611 Report

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>>12636608
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 06:49:18 No.12636627 Report

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>>12636566
>virus literally changes your dna
>we can now edit dna
isnt that the cure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 06:53:42 No.12636635 Report

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>>12635633
No need for a cure. just don't be gay, black, or a russian junkie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 07:09:00 No.12636649 Report

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>>12635633
>they found a vaccine for covid.
covid is a variant of the flu virus, so we got lucky in that we already had decades perfecting flu viruses.

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El Arcón Thu 28 Jan 2021 07:09:51 No.12636652 Report

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>How does a virus from the 80s have no vaccine?

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Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 07:14:25 No.12636661 Report

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>>12635633
https://youtu.be/u6bYk3OmAro?t=3291
Highly recommended watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 11:39:57 No.12637140 Report

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>>12636649
>covid is a variant of the flu virus
No it isn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 11:43:12 No.12637155 Report

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>>12635633
we dont want to help pidors

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 11:44:54 No.12637162 Report

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>>12635633
>How does a virus from the 80s have no vaccine?
selling HIV meds makes a lot of money, much more than selling a cure ever could

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 16:25:07 No.12637834 Report

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>>12636627
No. Building specific proteins that serve a specific purpose without side effects is an NP-hard computational problem. It's akin to protein folding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 16:30:05 No.12637848 Report

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>>12636566
Every virus does that and people overcome them all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 16:35:12 No.12637862 Report

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>>12636566
>>12635752
>>12635866
>>12636080
>>12636381
>>12636627
>>12636649
>>12636661
Why are /sci/posters so scientifically illiterate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 16:54:49 No.12637935 Report

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>>12636099
Lab-made does not mean genetically edited, retard.
Look up gain of function. Muhrica's been doing it for decades. All you need is some radioacve source and lots of mice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 17:27:48 No.12638043 Report

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Why get rid of it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 18:28:53 No.12638317 Report

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>>12635633
>>12635633
Because it only exists in minecraft. Our like people schooled in the esoteric secrets of virology would say in silico.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 22:24:42 No.12639597 Report

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>>12637935
But hiv isnt like anything before, it isnt just a enhanced version of an older virus

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 22:25:39 No.12639598 Report

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>>12637862
For the LULZ

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 28 Jan 2021 23:56:20 No.12639921 Report

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>>12637862
Do Americans really eat this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:14:54 No.12639987 Report

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>>12635633
HIV is a meme disease. The drugs to treat it create the symptoms that define it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 00:18:38 No.12639996 Report

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>>12635633
Because it attacks the immune system itself.
Moderna has something developed against HIV though:
https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-provides-business-update-and-announces-three-new
>The development programs announced today are mRNA vaccine candidates against seasonal flu, HIV and the Nipah virus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 29 Jan 2021 16:21:35 No.12641991 Report

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>>12639996
But how does it work? I thought mRNA simply triggers the immune system, like all other vaccines. That wouldn't work, right?

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