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How does one become an engineering polymath in his 30s?

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 10:59:04 2021 No.12592048 View Reply Original Report

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>Disrupted a wide array of industries from space to transportation to infra to energy and healthcare.

>Speaks as if he has years of expertise in AI and brain computer interface

>Learned a 6 month programming language course in 3 days and sold a video game at 12

>Has the potential to become the 1st trillionaire

>Already acomplished a ton before 50 without needing a PhD or an MBA

Explain this /sci/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 11:03:28 No.12592058 Report

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>>12592048
It's a front for government projects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 11:06:08 No.12592067 Report

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He's a good businessman and top tier marketer. If he was a genius scientist nobody would know him and he wouldn't be that rich.
As per your question, if one were to become a polymath in his 30s then that person would be a genius. Following this logic, it would have been obvious that the person is a genius from an early age.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 11:11:26 No.12592077 Report

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>>12592067
>top tier marketer
*cant complete a keynote without stuttering 20x

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 11:14:16 No.12592092 Report

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>>12592048
He was raised to be rich from childhood. His parents owned half an emerald mine as a side hustle and used to let him flip them himself. Money was no object so he has that different mindset that lets him gamble so much of it.

Most of all he paused his degree to snatch the biggest flashpoint in history for nerds to get rich at the start of the DotCom boom and chose private enterprises that would be backed up by government subsidies and funding and worked unbelievably hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 11:17:59 No.12592097 Report

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>>12592048
read a lot, read often, read everything, build models, study structures

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 11:25:55 No.12592109 Report

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>>12592077
Kek. I should have noted that he s good despite his aspergers. Besides his main marketing tool is twitter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 11:31:39 No.12592126 Report

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>>12592077
>know thy audience
Do you think anyone who follows him gives a shit if he studders? NO. All they want to see is big boy elon just stand there talk, he could read off of an unopened letter and they'd look at him in awe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 11:31:47 No.12592127 Report

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play Diablo 2 while your ragie wagies slave for you

get rich and immediately start hanging out with celebrities and washed up canadian popstars

appear on podcasts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 11:37:54 No.12592154 Report

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>>12592048
>6 month programming language course in 3 days
Simple if you already know the language

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 12:57:12 No.12592357 Report

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>>12592077
that's personal, you are getting confused with charisma which helps but on the largest scale it's impact is lessened

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 15:08:47 No.12592707 Report

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>>12592058
lol the kids won't understand this until years later

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 15:17:34 No.12592720 Report

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>>12592048
He made billons with Paypal. Also he was already rich. His parents own an emerald mine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 15:23:43 No.12592738 Report

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>>12592720
he was homeless and slept on his office when he started his first startups in the silicon valley though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 15:26:16 No.12592747 Report

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>>12592738
and you fall for this shit lol?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 15:32:24 No.12592765 Report

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>>12592738
That doesn't mean he's broke. Poor white people can't emigrate up twice in 4 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 15:34:09 No.12592771 Report

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>>12592738
I guess it's his own method of making the most of the available time and money to invest in his own startup

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 15:52:17 No.12592823 Report

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>>12592747
You fell for propaganda against him lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 15:58:47 No.12592839 Report

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>>12592048
He's a good businessman with little to lose which is probably the most effective combination nowadays. The thing about the corporate world is that most of the upper management are retards. They come from wealthy families and went to the best business schools, which just means they know how to run an already-existing business and little more.

If you gave a risk-taker that same amount of wealth and power and let them run wild they will probably eat all these MBAs for breakfast. And that's exactly what happened with Elon. He is also from a wealthy family but somehow he still kept that entrepreneurial spirit that only the truly hungry have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 16:00:06 No.12592842 Report

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>>12592048
nice reddit spacing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Jan 2021 16:09:35 No.12592864 Report

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>>12592048
>Explain this /sci/
Not math or science

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 01:33:01 No.12594737 Report

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>>12592048
That's the power of just actively trying to succeed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 01:41:03 No.12594759 Report

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1. Be born into an apartheid emerald mine
2. Use family wealth to make successful tech company
3. Talk out your ass

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 01:41:24 No.12594762 Report

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>learn fast, retain everything
>have enough money to never be a wagecuck again
>spend a lot of time learning
what's so confusing? he said he learned how to engineer rockets by reading textbooks. the only special thing here is that he retired when he was 24 after selling his Dotcom era startup. he's basically never had to wage. almost all of us are wagies, that's what, 1/3rd of our time? imagine how much of a polymath you could be with another 40 hours of freetime every week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 01:43:52 No.12594774 Report

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He's running the only companies in the US that are even trying to innovate in the hardware world. The smartest people (like me) go work at these companies for that reason. Good recipe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 01:47:56 No.12594786 Report

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>>12594759
>Use family wealth to make successful tech company

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 01:55:58 No.12594817 Report

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>>12592048
Disrupted industries? The government gave him funding because he’s popular with the meme-consuming public. He has not innovated whatsoever, it’s all been done before (except neuralink, but that will not actually happen anyways). Yet here we are cheering on rockets and electric cars, which he has not improved at all but only makes aesthetic changes on.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 15:33:59 No.12596509 Report

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>>12594817
everything you said is demonstrably false, seethe more, elon lives rent free in your head

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 15:36:50 No.12596525 Report

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>>12592048
>>Learned a 6 month programming language course in 3 days
Because learning to code is a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 15:36:53 No.12596526 Report

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Heaving an IQ of 160 helps alot, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 15:39:24 No.12596535 Report

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>>12592077
just because he has Asperger's doesn't mean he isn't that accomplished retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 15:40:38 No.12596537 Report

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>>12592077
Thats the point. he's an awkward nerd JUST LIKE YOU!!! Spiderman became the most popular superhero because he's a loser nerd, as opposed to Superman the Chad journalist, and Batman the born billionaire. Elon harnesses reddit energy to market.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 15:43:46 No.12596545 Report

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>1. Be born into an apartheid emerald mine
>2. Use family wealth to make successful tech company
>3. Talk out your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 15:43:53 No.12596546 Report

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>>12594817
>will not happen
ngmi

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 15:46:55 No.12596554 Report

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>>12594759
>apartheid emerald mine
stop with this meme fucking plebbitor, his father had 500$ in shares in that fucking mine, it's nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 16:39:59 No.12596693 Report

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>>12592048
You don't need to be rich to just start reading what people are doing in various fields. Stop reading pop science and stopping. Read about a topic of interest and find out who is active in that field of inquiry. Read up on what they are doing. Find where the "OPEN QUESTIONS" reside in these fields and understand why they remain open. That starts giving you a frame work of understanding where fields find themselves stuck at and why. Before you know it that path is takes to answer this leads to understanding of various fields more quickly than reading textbooks relying on decades out of date information.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 16:49:40 No.12596714 Report

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>>12592077
Doesn't matter. He understands social media. His Twitter exploits are legendary. He understands that its mostly irrelevant what you say (even outlandish stuff like accusing a rescue diver of pedophilia works) as long as its controversial enough so that newspapers are forced to report on it and regularly enough so that he's always a topic of public discussion.
The fact that every news outlet then has to follow the rules of the attention economy and bring article after article is equivalent to a marketing budget of tens of billions of dollars. And he's cracked the code on getting it for free.
There are tons of products out there that do things better than his companies. Yet they just don't have the publicity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 18:03:51 No.12596952 Report

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>>12596554
Thats not true. An anon likely yourself stated it before and I read into it. He traded a plane for half the mine (essentially) and it was a very handsome investment.

It wasn't their main income they were Doctors but it was a fortune.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 19:18:32 No.12597239 Report

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>>12592048
hes a slighty above average interlligence rich investor larping as a visionary
he literally bought the title of tesla founder
a leech on society

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2021 19:34:08 No.12597327 Report

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>>12592048
>Speaks as if he has years of expertise in AI and brain computer interface
Yet he's just as clueless as anyone else

>Learned a 6 month programming language course in 3 days and sold a video game at 12
This isnt impressive given the lack of complexity and competition in those areas at the time he did them. Even today month-long courses for professionals can be completed much more easily in a few days.

>Has the potential to become the 1st trillionaire
Has nothing to do with the success of his company and everything to do with the rise of retail (aka low information) investors using commission-free brokers

>Already acomplished a ton before 50 without needing a PhD or an MBA
Getting a phd or mba wastes time anyway, no one pretends that they are requisites for innovation

Hope this helps!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 03:17:55 No.12599056 Report

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We’ll have, you know, a group of people sitting in a room, making a key decision. And everybody in that room will say, you know, basically, “We need to turn left,” and Elon will say “No, we’re gonna turn right.” You know, to put it in a metaphor. And that’s how he thinks. He’s like, “You guys are taking the easy way out; we need to take the hard way.”

And, uh, I’ve seen that hurt us before, I’ve seen that fail, but I’ve also seen— where nobody thought it would work— it was the right decision. It was the harder way to do it, but in the end, it was the right thing.

Tom Mueller , Former CTO of Propulsion at SpaceX

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 03:21:13 No.12599065 Report

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>>12592048
>PhD or an MBA
MBA sux

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 03:28:07 No.12599079 Report

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>>12592048
Despite all the shit about him already having wealth and other excuses, the fact is he's an incredibly fast learner and a risk taker, has great mental stamina, and he reportedly has an incredible memory, which is probably why he can integrate so many disparate things so quickly. Intelligence isn't rare, being driven isn't rare, being ballsy isn't rare, having wealth isn't rare, but to have all of those traits makes him unique.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 04:19:47 No.12599212 Report

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>>12592154
yea i was gunna say thast impossible

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:01:57 No.12599294 Report

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>>12592048
>>Already acomplished a ton before 50 without needing a PhD or an MBA
He was accepted in a PhD program at Stanford University.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 05:39:08 No.12599377 Report

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>>12594817
>except neuralink, but that will not actually happen anyways

He just streamlines brain interfaces, same strategy as with his reverse landing rockets, really. Nothing new about the tech itself, he just makes it cheaper scales it's usefulness up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 06:23:26 No.12599449 Report

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>>12596535
What the... he's an aspie? really didn't know beforehand

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 06:25:02 No.12599455 Report

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>>12596714
such as...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 06:43:15 No.12599491 Report

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>>12599079
you sound like donald trump on mood stabilizers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 08:03:51 No.12599691 Report

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>>12592048
luck, cult of personality

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 08:51:22 No.12599775 Report

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>>12592048
>Speaks as if he has years of expertise in AI and brain computer interface
>Learned a 6 month programming language course in 3 days
These two are actually is a lot more doable than you might think.
AI is nowhere near as advanced as it's marketed as being, it's possible to learn the fundamentals very quickly and even write a some rudimentary machine learning AI code for yourself straight off the bat.
Programming languages can be acquired very quickly by understanding it's structure and doing even just a little background reading and online courses intentionally go as slow as possible so they can cater to as many people as possible, even the slower people

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 09:01:16 No.12599796 Report

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>>12594817
>rockets and electric cars, which he has not improved at all

are you an idiot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 09:03:47 No.12599803 Report

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>>12597239
>he literally bought the title of tesla founder

He got into Tesla when it was a struggling startup and he made them into the most valuable car company. He is much more of a founder than the original founders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 09:04:49 No.12599807 Report

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>>12599377
>Nothing new about the tech itself, he just makes it cheaper scales it's usefulness up.

Which is harder and more important than inventing new tech.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 09:28:58 No.12599852 Report

Quoted By: >>12600082

>>12592077
Who makes better electric cars and lands rockets?

Elon isn't some PR genius, he actually gets shit done and rocks the boat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 10:56:19 No.12600002 Report

Quoted By: >>12600068

Simple outline of it is
>Be born into rich family
>parents divorce
>your dad is crazy
>stay with your dad because he teaches you things about engineering and makes your read Nietzsche and Schopenhauer when you're 12
>get taught how to program, know it during .com bubble
>move to America and build website with your bro
>study economics and physics with a focus on cs
>don't fall into academia meme
>sell website for money
>meet Peter Thiel
>get more money from another site with him
>risk all your money and take on responsibility for some random electric car company and your own rocket company when everyone tells you not to
>teach yourself by reading and failing
>open car factory in china and Europe
>pays off
>continue to start new businesses
he was the right person at the right time and still pretty inspiring.
I really don't get why redditors seethe over him so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:21:56 No.12600068 Report

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>>12600002
Balanced take
>I really don't get why redditors seethe over him so much
He used to peak reddit. Though at point he rustled their feathers by posting tweets that pander to the right, he was then excommunicated as their reddit god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 11:29:50 No.12600082 Report

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>>12599852
>PR memelord and botfarmer
alrightish meme cars.. greatish rockets and entire meme companies..
meme stock price
meme company plans and rollout (sexy)
supreme for tech. as an analogy yes supreme beat gucci the last few years i think, but gucci has proven staying power. supreme is hard to think of staying the same long term.
>massive restructuring plans or die by q2 this year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 18:03:16 No.12601207 Report

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>>12599491
But "the best" wasn't used once in that post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 19:57:08 No.12601788 Report

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>>12592092
His parents didn't own the mine. His dad did. Which is plenty different from Elon owning the mine.

Musk had $110k in college debt and couldn't afford to buy a 2nd PC. Explain that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 20:01:24 No.12601806 Report

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>>12592738
I was making $200k in SV and slept in my van. I was far from broke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 20:04:59 No.12601824 Report

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Musk takes risks. It’s why people want to work for him. If someone at SpaceX has an idea, they don’t have to wade through 900000000 managerial approvals and cronyism to do a simple experiment to prove out some innovation. Musk just says “k, sounds good, go do it”

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Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 23:27:29 No.12602517 Report

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>>12599449
Kek

Boner

Boner Tue 19 Jan 2021 23:39:54 No.12602567 Report

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>>12601788
he did fucking dumbass elon got rich off dot com boom. elizabeth holmes is worth 4 billion off of... nothing. elon made bank off of zip2 and it became irrelevant... like a year later. same shit with guys like mark cuban. elon just got a bunch of autistic people to do shit for him. VCs throw around a lot of cash. he had several advantages over the average redditor. tesla is pretty woke tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Jan 2021 23:58:45 No.12602630 Report

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>>12602567
>elon made bank off of zip2 and it became irrelevant... like a year later.
Musk made 20 mil$ off that later made pay pal last time i checked it was still around you retard and made 200 mil off that and using said 200 mil made 200 billions off spacex and tesla.
Cuban has done nothing over past 20 years

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