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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 03:52:38 2021 No.12583420 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12583455 >>12583656 >>12583676 >>12583695 >>12584712 >>12584749 >>12585217 >>12585428

>Almost certainly a message from another civilization in the universe
>Still can't be debunked
>Still not talked about

Why? Comets, FRB, everything has been thrown at this thing...and really only a narrow band message from another civ is left. We have heard a message from another civilization and it's never talked about

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 04:00:00 No.12583439 Report

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What's there to talk about?
It was there once, then it wasn't anymore. If you can't replicate or see it again it's not worth much.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 04:05:21 No.12583448 Report

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space fart

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 04:08:40 No.12583455 Report

Quoted By: >>12583577 >>12586017

>>12583420
>We have heard a message from another civilization and it's never talked about
Most people are conditioned to vehemently deny that life exists other than our planet.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 05:02:22 No.12583577 Report

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>>12583455
I think almost everyone outside of a few religious fundamentalists acknowledge the near certainty of extraterrestrial life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 05:45:39 No.12583656 Report

Quoted By: >>12584677

>>12583420
They tore down the radio telescope that captured this to expand a nearby golf course

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 05:52:44 No.12583676 Report

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>>12583420
How do you know the signal wasn't caused by an unknown natural phenomena? That's EXACTLY what happened with the discovery of neutron stars.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 05:59:37 No.12583695 Report

Quoted By: >>12584677

>>12583420
it's been explained schizo

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 13:53:57 No.12584677 Report

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>>12583695

Nope

>>12583656

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 14:10:26 No.12584712 Report

Quoted By: >>12584725 >>12584749

>>12583420
>Almost certainly a message from another civilization in the universe
Likely not, actually. And even if it were, it's light years away deep in the Sagittarius constellation, and there's a chance whatever transmitted it has long been extinct.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 14:13:47 No.12584725 Report

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>>12584712
>Narrow band
>Frequency rose and fell with turn of orbit
>Over 30 times stronger than background noise
>Sent on the hydrogen highway

Nigga, we can't know for sure...but the needle certainly points more toward ET than anything else.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 14:21:46 No.12584740 Report

Quoted By: >>12584821

>>12584725
>Frequency rose and fell with turn of orbit
All that implies is that it was a continuous wave lasting for at least 72 seconds with minimal variation, which isn't a characteristic of waves used for communication.

>A continuous extraterrestrial signal, therefore, would be expected to register for exactly 72 seconds, and the recorded intensity of such signal would display a gradual increase for the first 36 seconds—peaking at the center of the observation window—and then a gradual decrease as the telescope moved away from it. All these characteristics are present in the Wow! signal.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 14:25:09 No.12584749 Report

Quoted By: >>12584832

>>12583420
How much power would it take to send this signal from here >>12584712 to earth?

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 14:52:18 No.12584821 Report

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>>12584740
>All that implies is that it was a continuous wave lasting for at least 72 seconds with minimal variation, which isn't a characteristic of waves used for communication.

It's exactly what you would see if it was offworld and rules out interference (locally).

They didn't have the technology to detect modulation at that time (unfortunately) so I'm not sure what you mean by it had minimal variation. As I understand it, they lacked the ability to see if there was any variation at all.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 14:59:05 No.12584832 Report

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>>12584749

Well, we sent a tongue in cheek response to them :).

In this video; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x67K-Vq1KWk&ab_channel=EventHorizon

the discoverer Jerry Ehman discusses this among other things. I don't remember where it was in the video but he explains it. It's a great video.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 16:46:17 No.12585217 Report

Quoted By: >>12585260

>>12583420
Is it possible that the signal was a mistake? Like the instruments recorded something that wasn’t there

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 16:56:57 No.12585260 Report

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>>12585217

Unlikely to the point of impossibility.

The machine would need to only have that glitch at that exact moment then mysteriously fix itself and never have the issue again.

Plus, the glitch would have to last exactly 72 seconds to match the observation window of the planet turning as it observed the signal.

Plus the glitch would need to gradually increase in intensity for the first 30 seconds or so then decrease to exactly mimic the observation window growing in intensity then decreasing as the planet turned.

So no, it wasn't a glitch.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 17:39:58 No.12585396 Report

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>>12584821
Continuous waves are not used for communication.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 17:49:48 No.12585428 Report

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>>12583420
one thing happening one time isn't evidence of anything

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 17:59:21 No.12585463 Report

Quoted By: >>12585671

>>12585396

We have no idea if it was continuous or not (or if the 72 seconds we captured was modulated).

>>12585428
That's false and before I get to the end of this sentence, you can imagine a scenario where we receive a message once that would convince you it was from an alien civilization.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 19:17:25 No.12585671 Report

Quoted By: >>12585962

>>12585463
>We have no idea if it was continuous or not
Yes we do, read the wiki article again before replying. It was stated as a continuous wave, and I just posted why.

>A continuous extraterrestrial signal, therefore, would be expected to register for exactly 72 seconds, and the recorded intensity of such signal would display a gradual increase for the first 36 seconds—peaking at the center of the observation window—and then a gradual decrease as the telescope moved away from it. All these characteristics are present in the Wow! signal.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 21:03:13 No.12585962 Report

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>>12585671

Perhaps you should read the wiki article again. From the same page.

>The signal itself appeared to be an unmodulated continuous wave, although any modulation with a period of less than 10 seconds or longer than 72 seconds would not have been detectable

Once again, we have no idea it was continuous or not...or if it was modulated. The equipment limited our ability to detect it.

The Big Ear, due to design and technological limitations at the time, caused this limitation.

But if you don't believe me, listen to this interview with Dr. Jerry Ehman (the guy that discovered it and wrote Wow!) where he explains (in detail) this very thing. He also laments in this interview that they lacked the ability to discern modulation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x67K-Vq1KWk&ab_channel=EventHorizon

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 21:09:05 No.12585980 Report

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why haven't they sent us anymore messages OP/

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 21:19:36 No.12586010 Report

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>>12585980

well unfortunately, if it was an alien civilization sending out signals, it won't send here again (more than likely) or not for a long time...unless we gave them a reason to or they figured out we have a sun/goldilocks zone/etc.

For example, we've sent our own 'wow!' signals but never sent another one. So alien anons could be discussing our signal right now and arguing about the origins and asking why we don't send another signal too.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 21:21:48 No.12586017 Report

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>>12583455
>Brainlets

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