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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 06:00:12 2021 No.12579751 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12579771 >>12579774 >>12581178 >>12581821

Anything is possible edition
Previous >>12577701

>SN9 static fires multiple times in one day
>SN9 hop soon
>Next planned rocket launch: Electron on Jan 16
>Next planned Falcon 9 launch: Starlink on Jan 17
>Also planned on Jan 17: Virgin Orbit with LauncherOne
>SLS status: overbudget and behind schedule
>BO status: New Shepard launch on Jan 14 at 0945 Central Time (suborbital)

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:02:03 No.12579759 Report

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Daily reminder to play Outer Wilds for comfy spaceflight times

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:03:39 No.12579764 Report

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>I want to BLEVE

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:04:10 No.12579768 Report

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>>12579764
Kek always funny

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:04:28 No.12579769 Report

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:04:35 No.12579770 Report

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Threadly reminder to ignore and report any furries that show up.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:04:54 No.12579771 Report

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>>12579751
Did SN9 get hurt? Will they have to replace a Raptor?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:05:36 No.12579772 Report

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>>12579770
Disgusting bigot

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:06:17 No.12579773 Report

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>>12579764
Requesting an edit with SN4 exploding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIh4aLX3cZQ

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:06:23 No.12579774 Report

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>>12579751
First for TRAPPIST-1 being the comfiest system

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:07:39 No.12579775 Report

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Krystal lol

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:09:42 No.12579779 Report

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>>12579769
the best page to make a thread on

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:10:57 No.12579781 Report

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Threadly reminder to ignore and report any 2hu niggers that show up.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:11:53 No.12579784 Report

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:14:52 No.12579790 Report

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>>12579774
Trappist-1 has awful stellar activity that would strip the atmosphere away from any potentially habitable world and make it a giant version of the moon. Lutyen b (Gj 273 b) is a much more likely world. It is 2.89X the mass of the Earth and has only 6% more stellar flux meaning that we know it’s likely not like Venus. Even better, it orbits a “Quiet” red dwarf which doesn’t rape its atmosphere like Trappist’s does.

>”Unlike many other potentially habitable exoplanets orbiting red dwarfs, like Proxima b and the TRAPPIST-1 planets, Luyten b has the advantage of orbiting a very quiet host. Luyten's Star has a very long rotational period of 118 days and is not prone to powerful solar flares. Strong enough flare events can strip the atmospheres of orbiting planets and eliminate their chances of habitability; a good example of this is Kepler-438b. However, with the low activity of its host, Luyten b is likely to retain any atmosphere for billions of years, potentially enabling the development of life as we know it.”

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:15:18 No.12579792 Report

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>>12579771
Nothing can hurt SN9. She's fine.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:16:10 No.12579793 Report

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>>12579774
Smol system
Visit a different planet every week

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:17:11 No.12579795 Report

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>>12579790
Alter the star to be nicer

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:18:46 No.12579799 Report

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>>12579795
The planets around Trappist are probably airless worlds.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:19:37 No.12579801 Report

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>>12579790
Airless worlds just mean we can make our own habitats

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:20:57 No.12579805 Report

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>>12579801
actually it means you can't land on them, because we need an atmosphere to land on worlds that large

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:21:11 No.12579806 Report

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>>12579801
So why go through all the trouble traveling 40 light years when you could just build domes on asteroids around Proxima Centauri

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:21:54 No.12579808 Report

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>>12579806
To get away from you-know-who

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:22:41 No.12579809 Report

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>>12579805
If you have a drive powerful and efficient enough to get you to another star in a reasonable amount of time, I doubt you'll have too much trouble propulsively landing on an airless world with 1g of gravity.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:24:03 No.12579811 Report

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>>12579790
This is such a retarded meme invented by "scientists" who are eternal doomers. They dont know shit about these worlds other than their apparent size. anything else is just fucking noise

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:24:55 No.12579812 Report

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>>12579769
Literally shut the fuck up with this autism

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:25:02 No.12579813 Report

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>>12579808
Trump?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:25:03 No.12579814 Report

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Krystal makes my pp hard

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:25:18 No.12579815 Report

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>>12579811
This, besides even if the worlds are shitty when we arrive, as an interstellar civilization it will be trivial and mostly a matter of inconvenience and boring busywork to fix them to our liking.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:25:43 No.12579816 Report

Quoted By: >>12579818 >>12579830

>>12579812
Not figuratively? I don't think he was yelling "page nine!" at himself in the dark anon.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:26:26 No.12579817 Report

Quoted By: >>12579834 >>12579847

>>12579811
Wtf you retarded faggot there are several worlds even closer than TRAPPIST that don’t have a shitty damn star. Going at 10% the speed of light we could reach Luyten b in 120 years. It would take centuries to reach TRAPPIST

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:26:53 No.12579818 Report

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>>12579816

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:28:36 No.12579823 Report

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>>12579790
You do realise that a planet with nearly 3 times the mass of ours is going to have absolutely intolerable gravity? Assuming of course it isn’t some kind of small gas planet or Venus like world.

If the worlds in Trappist 1 were like the moon just earth sized then that would be absolutely wonderful. It would basically be Mars so not very hard to colonise and given their proximity to each other you could easily start trade between colonies.

It’s a very appealing system.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:28:51 No.12579824 Report

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>>12579799
Like that’d be a problem if we could fly forty fucking light years

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:30:08 No.12579828 Report

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>>12579806
The further away from earth you can get, the better.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:30:25 No.12579830 Report

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>>12579816
this post made me rethink life

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:30:32 No.12579831 Report

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>>12579805
What are you talking about? What stops you from landing on an airless world? We have already done it several times on Mars and the moon with craft so I have no idea what you are talking about.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:31:26 No.12579834 Report

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>>12579817
Don't ever reply to me again

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:31:53 No.12579835 Report

Quoted By: >>12579862

with this launch BO will MATCH their 2020 new Shepard launch record for 2021! https://youtu.be/g9oTZu2HP8U

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:34:51 No.12579841 Report

Quoted By: >>12579848 >>12579889

>>12579831
The more massive the world, the greater your orbital velocity is, and therefore the more you need to kill off to land. Besides, Mars has a rather substantial atmosphere which is typically exploited to slow down from orbit.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:35:07 No.12579843 Report

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>>12579809
ah yeah that's true
and if there's no atmosphere, the Orion drive will work for landing too
maybe bring some chemical thrusters for the last bit

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:35:53 No.12579847 Report

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>>12579817
Luyten is closer to Earth so that’s a bad idea.
Fuck it. Aim for the Virgo Cluster

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:35:57 No.12579848 Report

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>>12579841
I think you underestimate the insane efficiencies necessary for interstellar travel to work at all. braking wont be a problem whatsoever

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:37:12 No.12579852 Report

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>>12579759
This.
>tfw no autistic space hippie goat wife
It hurts.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:38:04 No.12579857 Report

Quoted By: >>12579864

>>12579848
Well yeah, but the post I replied to was a lot more general in scope. Go try doing a Tylo landing to see why high-g vacuum planets would be very problematic for conventional propulsion systems

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:39:01 No.12579859 Report

Quoted By: >>12579868 >>12579899 >>12579909

The New Glenn is a testament to all the hardworking Americans who have a dream, a dream of conquering galaxies and traveling the full lenght of the cosmos countless times. It's the sole proof that there are no boundaries left unscathed when Humanity's best are on board and our deepest interests as a species are on the line. It is the eventual germination of the seeds that the general public have0 sown, those seeds being their hopes and trust on a company that dares to aim higher than any other ever had willed, even hoped, to aim for. We deconstruct myth, and build the impossible. We at Blue Origin know what it takes to be the best: to be hired. The New Glenn will roar with might never before seen, and we'll be be there to make sure of it, sooner than you'd expect. The future is Blue, and we're it's Origin. Hail Bezos.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:40:02 No.12579862 Report

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>>12579835
Getting their yearly launch out of the way early I see.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:40:34 No.12579863 Report

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:40:41 No.12579864 Report

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>>12579857
We're talking about Zubrin's Nuclear Saltwater drive, my good man

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:42:21 No.12579868 Report

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>>12579859
Woke Origin

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:44:06 No.12579872 Report

Quoted By: >>12579891 >>12579896

>>12579863
>realistic graphic of the ISS from the mid 90s
it takes the government way too long to build space things

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:44:18 No.12579873 Report

Quoted By: >>12579886

>other companies talk reuse
>SpaceX fires the rocket repeatedly without any refurb

Talk vs action

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:45:45 No.12579877 Report

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>>12579843
Just use your high efficiency fusion reactors to power ultra-high-temperature resistojets, or use pulsed nuclear-thermal drives with water as their reaction mass, not ultra-efficient but they'll provide several thousand seconds of ISP with equal thrust to a chemical rocket.
Or who knows what. Maybe the time we're ready for regular, relatively safe interstellar travel enough to consider interstellar colonization we may have some kind of meme drive so powerful it renders almost any landing essentially trivial, maybe a pulsed closed cycle gas core nuclear drive that delivers 20kISP and a 1-200TWR or an afterburning fusion torch that's light enough to land a ship with.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:47:01 No.12579880 Report

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>>12579770
>he says to the thread of furries

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:48:46 No.12579886 Report

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>>12579873
Does SpaceX refurb Merlins after static fires (before launch)?

Wonder what kind of refurb is needed after RS-68 fires and then scrubs lol

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:49:44 No.12579888 Report

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Anyone got the audio from that ULA exec who was recorded seething about spacex years ago and then was fired? lmfao

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:49:54 No.12579889 Report

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>>12579841
If you can travel across interstellar space then landing on some planet is not gonna be a problem.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:49:55 No.12579890 Report

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>>12579863
>non-cylindrical meme tank design

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:50:10 No.12579891 Report

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>>12579872

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:50:14 No.12579892 Report

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>>12579113
kinda reminded me of

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:52:02 No.12579895 Report

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>>12579890
Jealous?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:52:54 No.12579896 Report

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>>12579872
>1997
>rover on Mars!
>2020
>rover on Mars!
Leading the way to lighting the flame that sparks the journey to begin the voyage towards one day committing to put astronauts in simulators training them towards taking the first steps to a future Mars landing maybe!

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:55:12 No.12579899 Report

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>>12579859
>S- sir! I have, um, fixed the coffee pot in the break room. I'll have a report done by 11:00am when we all leave

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:56:08 No.12579903 Report

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>>12579895
I guarrentee unique landing engines would have weighed less than shitty wings plus lifting body design

But then I guess there might be a hope it succeeds and that wouldn’t be allowed

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:57:44 No.12579907 Report

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>>12579862
they're going to try to go for two in a year so they need to start early

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 06:59:21 No.12579909 Report

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>>12579859
When are you taking that next ferocious step jeffrey?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:01:48 No.12579913 Report

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>>12579903
My nemesis

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:02:32 No.12579915 Report

Quoted By: >>12579924 >>12579931

>>12579790
>Lutyen b (Gj 273 b) is a much more likely world. It is 2.89X the mass of the Earth and has only 6% more stellar flux meaning that we know it’s likely not like Venus.
>2.89X the mass of the Earth
Wouldn't it need to have a massive radius to have reasonable gravity?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:09:16 No.12579924 Report

Quoted By: >>12579948

>>12579915
Assuming an Earthlike density, Luyten b has a surface gravity of 1.6 g

> SO the Habitable Zone Super-Earth would have higher gravity than Earth with a similar composition. The radius would be ~1.33 Earth-radii, thus the surface gravity would be 1.63 gee. The inner planet is like Mercury in insolation terms, but Earth-like in mass.

> https://crowlspace.com/?p=2687

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:11:52 No.12579926 Report

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The way it should have been

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:13:52 No.12579930 Report

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>>12579926

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:14:30 No.12579931 Report

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>>12579915
“Teegarden’s Star c” is a super Earth that is only 11% more massive than Earth. It also orbits a “quiet” red dwarf that doesn’t rape its atmosphere. It is rather chilly but with an Earth like atmosphere and tidal locking it is likely that liquid water can exist on the surface. It is only 12 light years away.

>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teegarden%27s_Star_c#/media/File%3ATeegarden's_star_proper_motion.gif

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:15:15 No.12579932 Report

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>>12579926
nice picture but if that spacesuit design was supposed to look cool it failed spectacularly

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:16:32 No.12579933 Report

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>>12579932
sfg draw challenge:
a cool roman space suit that doesnt look gay

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:17:30 No.12579934 Report

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>>12579933

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:17:42 No.12579935 Report

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>>12579933
>Roman
Like, as in the Roman Empire?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:18:35 No.12579937 Report

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>>12579935
Yeah, see the Roman astronauts a few posts up?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:19:01 No.12579938 Report

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>>12579934
Got a good chuckle out of me hahah

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:19:35 No.12579939 Report

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>>12579935
yes

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:19:46 No.12579940 Report

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>>12579937
Oh fuck me I didn't even notice the SPQR flag. Yeah I'll draw something, but it might take a while

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:24:22 No.12579947 Report

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>>12579933
>here's your roman space suit bro

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:24:43 No.12579948 Report

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>>12579924
So there's basically not a chance in hell it's really worthwhile to humans other than as a planetary zoo if it has life?
11.3 km/s orbital velocity with no atmosphere is brutal.
>>12579931
This one seems way more plausible. Not only for life in general but also for being of practical relevance to humans.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:26:39 No.12579954 Report

Quoted By: >>12579962

>>12579948
Interstellar travel is impossible so who cares what planets are where?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:27:48 No.12579957 Report

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>>12579948
There are a few neat potentially habitable planets. I agree that Teergarden c is better but it’s also cold as shit. It’s equilibrium temperature is -47 degrees Celsius, while Earth's is -17 degrees Celsius - 30 degrees colder. All I’m trying to say is that TRAPPIST is a neat system but we have proof that it’s star is hyperactive and probably strips the atmosphere off those close-orbiting planets, let alone irridates their surfaces.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:28:05 No.12579958 Report

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>>12579891
F

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:29:03 No.12579960 Report

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BROS i found a video with a young, supple, babby jeff foust
https://youtu.be/hEwDD4GGPl8

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:29:19 No.12579961 Report

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>>12579933
The kojima productions ludens suit is obviously inspired by Centurion armor.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:29:20 No.12579962 Report

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>>12579954
Based

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:30:15 No.12579967 Report

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>i wasn't born at the right time to be one of the first practical xenobiologists

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:30:48 No.12579969 Report

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>>12579957
We can deal with the cold, that's not even as bad as Antarctica.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:39:01 No.12579983 Report

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My friends who want to move to Mars, I say, 'Do me a favor, go live on the top of Mount Everest for a year first, and see if you like it - because it's a garden paradise compared to Mars

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:39:08 No.12579984 Report

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>>12579926

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:40:39 No.12579986 Report

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>>12579984
i wish that kojima productions' creative ability could have been applied to a better game than death stranding. because their spacesuit mascot guy is one of the coolest looking things ever

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:41:48 No.12579991 Report

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>>12579983
What's his foot on, is he just hovering it there while the guy takes the picture?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:43:38 No.12579994 Report

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>>12579984
it's like a mix of medieval and roman

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:44:07 No.12579995 Report

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>>12579969
I’m a large fan of the GJ1061 system. Planet “c” orbits in the inner edge of the habitable zone. It has a mass of 1.75X that of the Earth, and 1.2X its radius. It receives more starlight than the Earth, though, and is thus likely to be similar to Venus.

Planet “d” orbits farther out. It has 1.68X the mass of Earth and likely has 1.2X its radius. It receives a bit over half the starlight that Earth does, meaning that it is pretty cold. With an oxygen atmosphere, the average surface temperature is -23 degrees Celsius, or -10 degrees Fahrenheit.

GJ 1061 (the star) is a red dwarf, but it doesn’t have massive flares like Proxima, TRAPPIST, and Ross 128.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:45:08 No.12579996 Report

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>>12579991
hello fellow feet fetishist

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:45:54 No.12579997 Report

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>>12579983
I would love to live on Everest lol. I grew up in Chicago shit was cold and is 10X more dangerous.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:51:19 No.12580006 Report

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>>12579997
Can tunnel boring machines bore upwards?
I wanna put a tunnel stairwell inside Everest so assholes can pay and see the top the easy way.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:56:09 No.12580014 Report

Quoted By: >>12580022 >>12581104

>>12580006
The world is grey, the mountains old
The forge's fire is ashen-cold
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls
The darkness dwells in Durin's halls

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 07:57:15 No.12580015 Report

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>>12579983
If the tip of Everest had the landmass of every continent, was full of unclaimed minerals, metals, other materials and had the world's richest man offering tickets to sovereign land for a few hundred thousand dollars then I suspect the tip of Everest would be a G8 nation.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:01:31 No.12580021 Report

Quoted By: >>12580267

>>12579983
>>12580015
Why does Bezos feel the need to shit on spaceflight when he doesnt like the destination? As if "free space" is any more habitable than the surface of Mars. Are all O'Neillians this way? Jesus

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:01:40 No.12580022 Report

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>>12580014
Don't tell me man doesn't belong down there, man belongs anywhere he pleases, and he'll do plenty well when he gets down there.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:08:05 No.12580030 Report

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>>12580022
mole people rise up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:18:48 No.12580042 Report

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>>12579759
>you will never play outerwilds for the first time again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:30:52 No.12580062 Report

Quoted By: >>12580108 >>12580169

New Rhodesia on Mars. Will it happen bros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:43:05 No.12580078 Report

Quoted By: >>12580087 >>12580091

>>12579948
Why is that velocity brutal when not having an atmosphere?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:47:58 No.12580087 Report

Quoted By: >>12580158

>>12580078
Usually atmospheres in the way and slow you down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:49:39 No.12580091 Report

Quoted By: >>12580158

>>12580078
For landing it is.
I don't know what it would be like in comparison to Earth on launch when accounting for atmospheric drag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:55:11 No.12580102 Report

Quoted By: >>12580107 >>12580110 >>12580120 >>12580276 >>12581394 >>12581430

Kamala at the head of the national space council. I wonder what she will bring to the table. I'm willing to give her a fair shake even though I disagree on politics :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:58:52 No.12580107 Report

Quoted By: >>12580409

>>12580102
Anyone with a brain knows Democrats hate space except for climate satellites

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:59:06 No.12580108 Report

Quoted By: >>12580281

>>12580062
Elon didn't grow up in the collapsing apartheid state and not learn anything from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 08:59:28 No.12580110 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580102
See what happens when you forget your nose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:02:26 No.12580117 Report

Quoted By:

>>12578720

Unironically, the answer is KYS.
There is no reasoning with people who have no intentions whatsoever to reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:04:11 No.12580120 Report

Quoted By: >>12580122

>>12580102
Planetary Protection reforms to decolonize space and prevent environmental disaster like the one unfolding here on Earth from being repeated by humans destroying the ecology of other planets and asteroids for the sake of capitalism and adventure. We'll leave the scientists to do science in space, ethically, responsibly, for the good of all humynkind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:05:11 No.12580122 Report

Quoted By: >>12580130

>>12580120
Why does ecology matter past it’s utility to us?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:08:39 No.12580130 Report

Quoted By: >>12580136 >>12580143

>>12580122
Protecting ecology is the right thing to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:12:36 No.12580135 Report

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I take it none of you faggots recorded/uploaded Tom Mueller's presentation from yesterday?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:12:59 No.12580136 Report

Quoted By: >>12580160 >>12581202

>>12580130
What ecology is there on the moon or Mars?

Rhetorical question, you are a commie piece of shit and should be strapped onto the nearest launch pad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:17:25 No.12580143 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580130
>Protecting ecology is the right thing to do.

Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:27:48 No.12580158 Report

Quoted By: >>12580441 >>12581043

>>12580087
Yes, but if there is nothing to slow you down, why does the orbital velocity matter. Do you need to orbit a planet in order to land on it?
>>12580091
When it comes to landing on a planet without an atmosphere, i think that rotational speed is more important to land on a desired site

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:29:51 No.12580160 Report

Quoted By: >>12581202

>>12580136
stop responding to bait like it's a serious post

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:32:30 No.12580162 Report

Quoted By: >>12580179

>>12579957
>we have proof?
do we? as far as i know its still speculation
i guess if the star really is raping the atmosphere it doesn't matter how close the planets are since the whole system is tiny.
damn i don't want to be a doomer. trappist 1 is my absolute favourite star system

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:36:06 No.12580169 Report

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>>12580062
>next generation of cybertruck will literally be an electric Mars optimised Eland

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:36:22 No.12580170 Report

Quoted By: >>12580176

>>12579983
Dumb and wrong.

Antarctica is a better analogy. If it wasn't all claimed by nations already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:37:24 No.12580173 Report

Quoted By: >>12580185

>>12580022
Is that a hole in his roof so the last model rocket fits?

Can I say uh based?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:41:23 No.12580176 Report

Quoted By: >>12580181 >>12580183 >>12580199 >>12580208

>>12580170
I feel like a private expedition to antarctica could work with negligible backlash. who's gonna stop us?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:43:24 No.12580179 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580162
I love TRAPPIST a lot too but past the PopSci “DUDE SEVEN PLANETS” stuff it turns out that the system sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:43:53 No.12580181 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580176
The most based would be driving around the place in a big fuckoff truck thing like a Star Wars Juggernaut

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:44:14 No.12580183 Report

Quoted By: >>12580187 >>12580191

>>12580176

These guys, but I do wonder about that unclaimed part.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:44:50 No.12580185 Report

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>>12580022
>>12580173
you can go see it yourself

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:45:07 No.12580186 Report

Quoted By: >>12580195 >>12580199

How does one add aliens and cosmic horror into a hard Sci-fi setting? Is FTL really impossible?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:46:11 No.12580187 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580183
I’d love to explore the “unclaimed” part if I wasn’t an 18 year old Uni student with no money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:48:37 No.12580191 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580183
oh yeah those countries will surely enforce those claims. lmao gimme a break, they wont even know we're there

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:50:42 No.12580195 Report

Quoted By: >>12580210 >>12580212 >>12580227

>>12580186
Hard sci-fi is just “dude what if science stopped progressing in current year”

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:51:49 No.12580199 Report

Quoted By: >>12581155

>>12580186
>>12580176
this is why we havent colonized antarctica

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:56:08 No.12580208 Report

Quoted By: >>12580218

>>12580176
>Negligible backlash

Dude, if you claimed a nice chunk of land, started building dome cities on it and bringing in colonists, your shit would be fucked by the US government so fast you would not believe it. You think the situation in Iran or North Korea is fucked? Now times that by a hundred.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:56:40 No.12580210 Report

Quoted By: >>12580270 >>12580292

>>12580195
I always thought hard Sci-fi was just “dude let’s not put anything in the setting that is physically impossible” except with different levels of what counts as “possible.” Nuclear fusion is possible, and is more so than say faster than light travel, but less so than the ability for babies to be born on Mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 09:58:00 No.12580212 Report

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>>12580195
Hard sci fi generally assumes a logical progression of technology, ruling out Boop de doop spehss magick unlimited energy and atomic sized replicator robots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:02:52 No.12580218 Report

Quoted By: >>12580224 >>12580287

>>12580208
That's never happened and never will. What kind of fantasy world do you live in? The US couldnt give less of a shit about that wasteland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:11:16 No.12580224 Report

Quoted By: >>12580239

>>12580218
>be UN
>help there are evil people in antarctica who dont follow my resolution
>Does that mean i can bomb people?
>yes USA go ahead buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:12:18 No.12580227 Report

Quoted By: >>12580229 >>12580233

>>12580195
THIS
So sick of people lacking the ability to realize that things we take for granted now, in physics, in telecommunications, in computing, in travel, in automation and so on, would seem like ""impossible"" magic to anyone just 100-200 years ago. And if you extrapolate that into the future, there would be common-place things everywhere, that we today think are impossible and practically magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:13:13 No.12580229 Report

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>>12580227
yes, but the science fiction of the 50s looks very similar to what is possible today

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:14:17 No.12580233 Report

Quoted By: >>12580242 >>12580288

>>12580227
I just want to know if FTL is possible. Wormholes, warp drives, jump drives...anything. I’m just curious because it seems like you can’t make a good Sci fi story with Alien Empires and value-brand Xeelee without FTL

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:18:10 No.12580239 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580224
US doesnt need UN's permission for shit. and the US wont care, because it's an American colony

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:18:55 No.12580242 Report

Quoted By: >>12580274

>>12580233
Sci fi has been extremely lazy for the most part until now
remember all those star wars planets who consisted only of one biom? you could literally make the same story happen just on earth alone with no need for ftl. shows like the expanse use the solar system much more effectively but even there is much unused potential since they also reduce earth and mars to a single monolithic block for their story.
but accepting the fact a star system can have several planets alone would be a huge step forword for many classic sci fi storys which would greatly reduce the need for ftl

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:31:42 No.12580267 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580021
Yes, they are a plague on the board and their incessant need to complain about how we should be making pointless space cans for some reason rather than creating sustainable Martian colonies never ceases to amaze me.

It’s as if they have no imagination at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:33:50 No.12580270 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580210
We have no idea what's possible and impossible lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:34:12 No.12580271 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580022
Is that V2? Dangerously based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:34:52 No.12580274 Report

Quoted By: >>12580325

>>12580242
Single-biome planets is not implausible at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:37:25 No.12580276 Report

Quoted By: >>12580280

>>12580102
Well one thing we can be sure about is that NASA won’t be doing fucking anything for 4 to 8 years now, but then when do they do anything?

I guess Kamala will find a better use for the money by giving it to the local nog population.

Although the one silver lining about all this is that retard Manley will hopefully feel like an idiot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:40:01 No.12580279 Report

Quoted By: >>12580578

Gweilobros... I don't feel so good...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:40:24 No.12580280 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580276
>Manley feel like an idiot
He's a smug asshole, no way that's ever going to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:41:00 No.12580281 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580108
His father actually killed 3 nogs that tried breaking into their home with Elon there so I would be very surprised if he didn’t learn a thing or two about what would happen to his colony if he lets them go there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:43:46 No.12580287 Report

Quoted By: >>12580291

>>12580218
>The US couldnt give less of a shit about that wasteland
>t. Ignoring three decades of US foreign policy where they invade, fuck up and occupy wastelands because of politics

Get a grip retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:44:36 No.12580288 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580233
The real answer is that no one really has any fucking clue. Everyone thinks that anything going faster than light would shatter the nuts of the universe and damn us all to cyber hell because of relativity for some fucking reason.
Regardless, a good story can be made out of anything. It's not that no FTL kneecaps a sci-fi story, it's that writers are rarely both creative and knowledgeable enough to make a good world in a sci-fi setting (or in general, really).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:45:57 No.12580291 Report

Quoted By: >>12580296 >>12580301

>>12580287
>being this scared about the US cracking down on an Antarctican hippy colony
Ah, but it is you who is le retardaru, my friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:46:11 No.12580292 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580210
How is Martian babies not possible? I’m sure you would have to give your habitats and bunkers tall ceilings, but I don’t see why it wouldn’t be possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:47:05 No.12580294 Report

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von Braun was very very based. i miss him bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:47:45 No.12580296 Report

Quoted By: >>12580298

>>12580291
Wow that sure looks like a comprehendable English post to me. Try not speaking in memes you stupid nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:48:35 No.12580298 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580296
Oof, you ok buddy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:50:36 No.12580301 Report

Quoted By: >>12580306

>>12580291
>Me Antarctic hippy colony
>Me mine and refine oil and ship to any nation
>Me mine and refine Uranium and ship to any nation
>Me take disenfranchised and intelligent US citizens to live and work here

Yep, sure will be no retaliation here you stupid fucking nigger now go back to rebbit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:53:15 No.12580306 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580301
You just dont want me to try because you know i'll succeed. foreigners such as yourself have no concept of undying free ambition. it's a shame you have no purpose or goals in life

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 10:53:43 No.12580307 Report

Quoted By:

(you)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 11:02:27 No.12580318 Report

Quoted By:

Any good interviews of this man lying around?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 11:06:31 No.12580325 Report

Quoted By: >>12580401

>>12580274
i mean those typical star wars planets who can support human life but consist only of jungle, desert, city etc
some fucking cold planets like hoth were you could only survive at the equator would definitely be possible though

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 11:50:31 No.12580379 Report

Quoted By: >>12580387

Hop when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 11:56:31 No.12580387 Report

Quoted By: >>12580595

>>12580379
18th it seems :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 12:05:19 No.12580401 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580325
World deserts are pretty possible too, allowing for small seas, oasis, etc.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 12:09:39 No.12580409 Report

Quoted By: >>12581399

>>12580107
Nice try, Old space shill.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 12:31:11 No.12580441 Report

Quoted By: >>12580452

>>12580158
nope, but it helps a uck-ton
that's how the early moon landers (pre 1969), a few russian mars landers and most of the venera landers did it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 12:40:46 No.12580452 Report

Quoted By: >>12580459 >>12580461

>>12580441
Why does it help?
Because it's easier to manouver when your craft naturally aligns with the planet and moves in relation to it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 12:43:21 No.12580459 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580452
yea, and since literally all missions going to the moon need to have accurate as fuck landings, the aim, shoot and pray approach is basically gone

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 12:44:19 No.12580461 Report

Quoted By: >>12580466

>>12580452
There's no such thing as natural alignment, going into orbit first just means you are less dependent on your initial timing being perfect. You execute burn 1 to capture into orbit, then you can do some more burns to lower apoapsis and periapsis, then when you're ready you execute the landing burn.
Basically your window of successful insertion orbit parameters gets blown wide open if you are orbiting first and landing second. If you're directly landing from intercept you need to be intercepting within a small range of velocities and vectors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 12:52:21 No.12580466 Report

Quoted By: >>12580487

>>12580461
Do you think that when humanity will be a lot more experienced at spaceflight and every move will be executed perfectly, orbit capture will be ditched?
Landing on the site without excess manouvers seems a lot more optimized and efficient.
Just like the falcon 9 boosters don't hover and fire up their engines in the last moment in order to be fuel efficient.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:00:25 No.12580475 Report

Quoted By: >>12580495 >>12580503 >>12580559

>>12579790
Semi related question: is the activity of a red dwarf related to how little mass it has? Would a larger red dwarf be more stable than a smaller one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:10:24 No.12580487 Report

Quoted By: >>12580496

>>12580466
Individual companies and organizations sure, but "humanity" as a whole? No lol. That's not a problem though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:12:20 No.12580495 Report

Quoted By: >>12580508

>>12580475
It's hard to tell but yeah, a lot of the really low mass red dwarves seem to have more active surfaces (ie flares n' sheeit) despite having smaller total power outputs. It also probably has a lot to do with metallicity of the star and other factors. Oh, and a small star has a habitable zone much closer to it, so the effects of flares become magnified.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:12:23 No.12580496 Report

Quoted By: >>12580506

>>12580487
A mental shortcut

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:15:57 No.12580503 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580475
more or less yes but it also depends on the age. generally (there are some exceptions though) older red dwarfs tend to be more calm. always remember that there are a huge variety of stars size wise which are all part of the red dwarf category.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:16:51 No.12580506 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580496
no u

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:17:24 No.12580508 Report

Quoted By: >>12580517 >>12580526

>>12580495
So more metallic stars have overally less fuel and lower freedom in fusion because the star is more in the state of equillibrium?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:20:48 No.12580517 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580508
not necessarily equilibrium, just that they burn through their shit more quickly thanks to the increased core density and general gravity driving the reaction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:24:50 No.12580526 Report

Quoted By: >>12580537

>>12580508
IIRC the total amount of fuel changes only slightly but the presence of metals allows the core to collapse further due to higher density and accelerate fusion, but remember that fusion rates don't necessarily correlate to surface activity. Instead, magnetic field activity is what correlates to stellar flares etc, which means that a faster rotating star (or whatever intensifies field activity in a burning ball of dense plasma) will have more flares regardless of fusion rates or metallicity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:31:47 No.12580537 Report

Quoted By: >>12580649

>>12580526
Do you know what intensifies magnetic activity? It seems pretty chaotic and random, yet cyclical

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:44:28 No.12580559 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580475
Not a star doctor or anything but I'd assume that with the volume of the star being orders of magnitude smaller, perturbations deep inside the star are probably more often translated all the way to it's surface.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 13:59:41 No.12580576 Report

Quoted By: >>12580599 >>12580670 >>12580784 >>12580963 >>12580987 >>12581027

So ok, bare with me here. Supposedly its close impossible that a technological civilization existed in the past, because the signs of that happening would be close to impossible to hide arguibly even after billions of years. (if we all suddenly died our modern cities would be at least recognizable 1000 million years later.

But what if there was a catastrophe that literally wiped the whole surface clean, like the asteroid impact which made the moon, literall renew the whole surface with magma there would be no trace of what was before except maybe a few extremely extreme extremophiles and evolution would start again.

but if you consider that scenario then it would become increasingly likely to find evidence of those civs on other world or in orbit, maybe not a lot but even big outpoust wont be visible until we go there.

actually scratch this idea is shit, like, there woudl be a lot of orbital stuff and we would have noticed, sorry you had to read this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:00:52 No.12580578 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580279

how can white bois even compete?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:06:20 No.12580595 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580387
Why

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:08:14 No.12580599 Report

Quoted By: >>12580615 >>12580622 >>12580632 >>12580640

>>12580576

it's just as well you prefaced your comment by saying it's shit because you're completely incorrect. Cities would start to collapse very quickly without maintenance, absolute max life of 100 years for skyscrapers etc.satellites too will have their orbits decay without intervention, although GEO satellites will be up there for a while longer.

the exception to that are the deep space probes, Voyager etc, which might drift for millions of years. but there's only 4 of those so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:17:15 No.12580615 Report

Quoted By: >>12580640

>>12580599
He didn't imply the cities would stay clean and pristine, he said the *signs* would be hard to hide. Even when a skyscraper collapses, there's still lots of flat/straight bits of rock and metal, plus an unlikely mix of different materials mashed together, not to mention layers of roads and subways and sewers. Those would persist for at least millions of years until continental drift caused them to reach a subduction zone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:22:28 No.12580622 Report

Quoted By: >>12580640 >>12580681 >>12580835

>>12580599
Yes you retard a million years later the starbucks wont be stocked but the sign that there was something there remains well WELL after tat. There are natural rock formations that kept the same shape for millions of years, and just a patch of street surviving would have such a retarded overhwelmingly huge parts of straight liens in material much stronger than natural rocks, and also lots of chemical components that woul dbe totally unexplainable and wouldnt decay. and thats just one of the millions of streets thats in one of the millions of cities in the world. just one is enough

Hell, theres undeniable evidence of living beings from millions of millions of years ago, and those are soft weak little animals which produced NOTHING artificial.

tldr: the notion that cities would erase the evidence of their existence without something that literally melts every square cm of the earth is laughably stupid and instantly earns you a badge of "nto to be taken seriously and yes to be ebatedened up"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:26:21 No.12580632 Report

Quoted By: >>12580640

>>12580599
>the exception to that are the deep space probes
how about bases on planets with no seismic activity? how about spent boosters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:32:21 No.12580640 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580622
>>12580615
>>12580599
>>12580632

not gonna lie, i like starting shitstorms, but i had a point to all this.
The point is that theres a realistic scenario in which we could find traces of an advanced life that once lived on earth but in other worlds and that it would be feasible that it appeared only when we started really exploring.

Imagine a race that was like 50-100 years further than us, they have nice colonies all over the solar system, they are quite big but not big enough to be seen from telescopes, also not self sufficient yet. Then a hard to detect asteroids comes from the plane of the ecliptic slams into earth completely melts the crust.
Everyone not on earth dies because lack of supplies, they try to hold on but theres just not enough industrial base on those planets to survive, they all die. Strange aeons pass, all satellites decay, even the ones farther away, all discarded boosters also, since they had switched to reusable rockets to conquer the solar system. strange aeons pass primordial soups re-develops *le evolution* happens then were here.

could you imagine that? that would mean a realistic scenario in which some guy walking around in mars could find out a hatch to something like a 10.000 people alien city on mars and it would make sense

cna you imaginage that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:35:28 No.12580649 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580537
No, and if I did I'd probably win some kind of award by publishing about it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:37:06 No.12580654 Report

Quoted By: >>12580661 >>12580663

Is anything going to happen at Boca Chica today? My office is closed due to someone getting the coof so I can finally sit at home and watch all day

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:39:18 No.12580659 Report

Quoted By: >>12580671

https://web.archive.org/web/20201118111025/https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001900760001-9.pdf?utm_source=share

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:42:10 No.12580661 Report

Quoted By: >>12580686

>>12580654
tomorrow if we are lucky

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:43:19 No.12580663 Report

Quoted By: >>12580686

>>12580654
fake a fever tomorrow

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:43:41 No.12580667 Report

Quoted By: >>12580751

New Shepard launch in approximately one bong

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:44:48 No.12580670 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580576
BEAR with me here*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:45:53 No.12580671 Report

Quoted By: >>12580676 >>12580687

>>12580659
How did CIA get away with this shit in the 20th century? Psychics, pseuds, schizophrenics, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:47:01 No.12580676 Report

Quoted By: >>12580687

>>12580671
how did NASA get away with SLS?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:47:57 No.12580678 Report

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>/int/ only allows respectful discussions of other cultures

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:49:22 No.12580681 Report

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>>12580622
Earth could probably collide with Mars and there would still be structures like the Golden Gate Bridge or the foundation of Burj Khalifa that would survive in a discoverable form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:51:25 No.12580686 Report

Quoted By: >>12580776

>>12580661
>>12580663

I have shit to do. Can you all tell Elon to wait until after 1800 EST for the hop pretty please?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 14:51:48 No.12580687 Report

Quoted By: >>12582066

>>12580671
this
>>12580676

by the time SLS is done it will have costed around the same as the apollo program, for no advantage of any kind, this is public knowledge an dpreventable in a time where people can know any screw up you have at any time via internet.

they are literally grabbing 100.000.000.000
and stealing it for nothing in exchange, all of this is aproved by congress and constantly talked about. Make it 120.000.000.000 if you want to add the jamnes webb memescope. all of this is done by civilian organizations in peace time with ample scrutiny from the public.

imagine the amount of money they could have spent back when telecoms werent developed enough and the united states secret organizations and military had free reign to do whatever the fuck they wanted even rape and torutre us citizens if it was for the good of the cause, can you imagine the
imagine what secret paramilitary organizations with black budgets could have gotten away with during war time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:13:43 No.12580751 Report

Quoted By: >>12580778

>>12580667
got pushed back a half hour

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:21:57 No.12580776 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580686
No, cleanup your room

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:22:41 No.12580778 Report

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>>12580751
push back 1.5 hrs to 12 est

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:24:51 No.12580784 Report

Quoted By: >>12580810

>>12580576
>if we all suddenly died our modern cities would be at least recognizable 1000 million years later

No they wouldnt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:33:24 No.12580810 Report

Quoted By: >>12582071

>>12580784
>the oldest fossil is around 3.48 billion years old
> one small clump of primitive bones and the imprint of flesh is still recognizable 3.48 bilion years after it died with no one to take care of it.
>three percent of the surface of the planet covered in buildings made of reinforced concrete and steel would not be noticeable 1 billion years later

i shiggirisioulsy hope youre not shigging

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:34:29 No.12580812 Report

Quoted By: >>12580814 >>12580818 >>12580819 >>12580823

uhhh... is there a particular reason as to why Virgin Galactic stock is up 20% today?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:35:36 No.12580814 Report

Quoted By: >>12580864

>>12580812
yes, the board of directors are all literall direct relatives (brother/spouses) of democrat senators. Basically no matter how bad they screw they will still get subsidized, they are basically old space now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:36:47 No.12580818 Report

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>>12580812
ARK investment rumours bumping the price up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:36:59 No.12580819 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580812
new space ETF - $ARKX

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:38:37 No.12580823 Report

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>>12580812

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:41:50 No.12580833 Report

Quoted By: >>12580840

>>12579759
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:42:18 No.12580835 Report

Quoted By: >>12580859

>>12580622
The one exception to that is sea level rise. Salt water eats most construction materials except stone. It's why the story of Atlantis persists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:43:13 No.12580840 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580833
>not at all even remotely to scale
Lame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:51:57 No.12580859 Report

Quoted By: >>12580932 >>12582079

>>12580835
>>12580835
>Salt water eats most construction materials except stone
wow, if only 99.9 of our materials werent stony in nature, particularly concrete.

youd probably find some all concrete pristine with the holes where the steel rebar bars went in

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:52:59 No.12580864 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580814
this is the first time i hear this, any source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 15:55:49 No.12580875 Report

Quoted By:

>anons arguing about the traces of civilization left in millions of years if it collapsed now
What does that even have to do with space? That's on the ground archeology. Right now we're still working on the "seeing planets that aren't gas giants, very close to their parent stars or both" part due to the biases and limitations of detection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:22:28 No.12580932 Report

Quoted By: >>12580952

>>12580859
Salt water eats concrete like a motherfucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:25:32 No.12580939 Report

Quoted By: >>12580943 >>12580946 >>12580950 >>12580956

What would happen to the James Webb program if the rocket carrying the telescope were to explode before delivering the payload to orbit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:27:15 No.12580943 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580939
Renamed to James Uebb Space Telescope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:27:30 No.12580946 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580939
in the unlikely situation that it does, I would die

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:29:53 No.12580950 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580939
I imagine they have a suicide pact for this very scenario

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:30:21 No.12580952 Report

Quoted By: >>12582083

>>12580932
well theres still a ton of shit made of literal stone tiles, docks made of special antis altwater concrete

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:30:58 No.12580954 Report

Quoted By: >>12580962 >>12580990

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9oTZu2HP8U
Cringecast is LIVE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:31:24 No.12580956 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580939
it would be extremely painful

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:32:05 No.12580961 Report

Quoted By: >>12580986

Dubs and the rocket carrying James Webb explodes on ignition, leaving no discernable trace of the telescope intact

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:32:26 No.12580962 Report

Quoted By: >>12580988

>>12580954
>Covid meme
I want the flying water tower back

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:32:49 No.12580963 Report

Quoted By: >>12580977

>>12580576
>if we all suddenly died our modern cities would be at least recognizable 1000 million years later.
Define "at least recognizable". I'm pretty sure almost all surface evidence of an advanced civilization would be wiped out by natural processes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:33:49 No.12580967 Report

Quoted By: >>12580969 >>12580973

Mods struggling to delete all the Jeff Whos on estronauts stream kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:35:15 No.12580969 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580967
kek, BO doesn't seem to have mods

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:35:38 No.12580973 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580967
>it's fucking real
>"The Elonsexuals are out in full force today "
Fucking hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:36:12 No.12580977 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580963
>Define "at least recognizable"
There would be undeniable evidence of something not natural that happened. Even if every last molecule of the original decays, the results of that decay would be arranged in patterns that even the most clueless of species would recognize as not natural.

thats excluding all the natural preservation phenomena that cna happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:36:50 No.12580979 Report

Quoted By:

>everyone is just spamming Jeff Who?
i love it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:37:41 No.12580982 Report

Quoted By:

I need to convince my grandmother to jump off virgin galactic now before everyone realizes how much of a sham it is...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:38:05 No.12580983 Report

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>g-guys please fly on our suborbital rocket so you can practice to fly on orbital rockets one day

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:39:48 No.12580986 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580961
Would much rather have it launch perfectly and reach its destination only for them to then discover some critical flaw with the hardware that makes it totally unusable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:40:04 No.12580987 Report

Quoted By: >>12581004

>>12580576
No they wouldn't, 100-200 years is all it would take for 99% of visible traces of humanity to disappear. Within 500k-1m years for all archeological evidence to decay. The two signs of our civilization that would still be visible to an observer after that happens would be a thin layer/increase in CO2 in the crust, and non-decaying plastic particles all over the place. CO2 layers can be caused by nature (supervolcano eruption or large asteroid impact), but plastics don't occur in nature so that would be the dead give away that intelligent beings once existed on the planet.

Aside from that though, the Earth is going to start getting too hot to support life in 500k-1m years anyways, complex life has probably just under a million years left on Earth before conditions become to extreme for it to survive. Microbial/simple life may continue on for some time after that, but it won't be able to re-evolve into something more complex unless it gets yeeted from the solar system to an exoplanet with suitable environment to support life and the chances of that are astronomically (pun intended) small. We are it. There will be no other intelligent species produced by Earth because there simply isn't enough time for another intelligent species to develop. If humanity was wiped out tomorrow, then the history of intelligent life on Earth is effectively over. The problem is that any event powerful enough to wipe humanity is going to kill any species that's near our intelligence level already, and it will take to long for another intelligent species to evolve with the time remaining on the Earth.

So yeah, we are it. If we die off, then it's game over. The only observers to look at our world for signs of intelligent life would be aliens, not Earth-based intelligent life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:40:41 No.12580988 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580962
Come back tomorrow

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:41:34 No.12580990 Report

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>>12580954
Can someone redpill me on this mission? Is this hop higher or lower than 12.5km?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:41:55 No.12580992 Report

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my fucking sides

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:42:18 No.12580994 Report

Quoted By:

>We have a full scale model of the Ladder of Doom that astronauts practice getting injured on every day

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:44:02 No.12580998 Report

Quoted By:

You fuckers in the comments top kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:44:25 No.12580999 Report

Quoted By:

wait CLPS is just on a normal old falcon 9? Fuck, why do we have to wait until 2022?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:44:45 No.12581001 Report

Quoted By: >>12581015 >>12581019

So much for "Team Space"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:45:32 No.12581004 Report

Quoted By: >>12581026

>>12580987
>No they wouldn't, 100-200 years is all it would take for 99% of visible traces of humanity to disappear.
we have visible traces of primitive civilizations from 42.000 years ago.

and fossils from 3.8 billion years ago.

Do you actually somehow think that 3% of the surface of the planet covered in modern cities is somehow less durable than the above or are you just pretending to be retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:46:04 No.12581007 Report

Quoted By: >>12581010

MADE IN ALABAMA BOIS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:46:27 No.12581008 Report

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>NEW CAPSULE
Looks like the same old tumor growth capsule to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:47:14 No.12581009 Report

Quoted By: >>12581010 >>12581012 >>12581024

>the important part of Artemis is a woman on the moon
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:47:52 No.12581010 Report

Quoted By: >>12581036

>>12581007
I don't see why they're making a big deal out of that, not like Shelby is around anymore, no need to please his geriatric ass anymore. Must be an old ad.

>>12581009
Yes, because that's the only way they'll be able to sell it to the fucking normalfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:48:16 No.12581012 Report

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>>12581009
easiest way to bait in leftists

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:48:18 No.12581013 Report

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>People are paying money to harass Jeff

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:48:53 No.12581015 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581001
>"Team Space"
Team Space goes into orbit and beyond, not glorified sounding rockets with observation pods and a snack bar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:49:04 No.12581016 Report

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>hold
Jeff wHold?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:49:49 No.12581017 Report

Quoted By: >>12581020 >>12581022

Are these fuckers seriously on hold?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:50:40 No.12581019 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581001
BO can join team space when they actually make it there

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:50:55 No.12581020 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581017
SPACE (suborbital) IS HARD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:51:12 No.12581021 Report

Quoted By:

There are people in the comments named Jeff Who, so their comments can't be removed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:51:32 No.12581022 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581017
It's fucking hydromeme, which makes it needlessly complex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:51:34 No.12581023 Report

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>Inspiring the next generation... maybe... to go into space!

Peak Oldspace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:51:38 No.12581024 Report

Quoted By: >>12581032 >>12581366

>>12581009
Hey that might be the only reason Artemis survives the democrats.
>First Artemis crew on the Moon
>first women- the space lesbian
>first black man- Victor Glover
>first asian man - Jonny Kim
Victor Glover will go to the Moon and I can't wait to see his reaction

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:52:11 No.12581026 Report

Quoted By: >>12581034

>>12581004
>we have visible traces of primitive civilizations from 42.000 years ago
Cave drawings and some simple tools (the authenticity of which is under scrutiny anyways). Certain elements our existence would survive (hence, ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE) for up to 500k-1m years.

Cities would quickly become unaffiliated particles of silicate/carbon (dust basically, from all the concrete) and iron. Actually one thing from cities that would be around for a very long time would be alloys like steel, but even those would decay with time. Like I said, after about 500k years or so the best indicator is actually plastic particles.

But my point is, traces of humanity would survive for very long time periods (deep space probes and GEO satellites as someone else pointed out), plastics, underground/preserved sites, etc. Human fossils would be fucking everywhere.

Any intelligent species that knew what to look for would definitely be able to work out what humans were and that we were an intelligent, civilization building species. But they would have very little idea what humanity actually looked like, they certainly wouldn't know what our buildings or art looked like. Just that we existed and that we had large urban centers and that something killed us all. Unless they somehow found the Voyager probes in which case they might have a slightly better idea of who we were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:52:18 No.12581027 Report

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>>12580576
This is incorrect, if a technologically advanced civilization was here on earth even a few million years ago, all evidence would be wiped clean by time. Even metals and computers and buildings and “permanent” structures. Weathering and erosion really fucks everything, especially over long periods of geologic time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:52:36 No.12581029 Report

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>the hold is just continuously counting up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:52:59 No.12581031 Report

Quoted By:

>Jeff holds the penis rocket

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:53:14 No.12581032 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581024
Cannot fucking wait for the first space chimpout, it will be legendary

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:54:27 No.12581033 Report

Quoted By:

>blue origin stream
>JEFF WHO
>orbit when
>big pp

expect blue origin snipers soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:54:28 No.12581034 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581026
>Actually one thing from cities that would be around for a very long time would be alloys like steel
Most steel is regular carbon steel and most cities are on the coast, so it will be dust within single digit years of exposure to the elements

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:54:52 No.12581036 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581010
>not like Shelby is around anymore
He’s still the senior Senator from Alabama, just no longer the chair of the appropriations committee. He’s one of the longest serving Senators, relatively moderate, and unlikely to retire until the 2022 senatorial election. The guy’s an institution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:55:09 No.12581037 Report

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>14th mission to "space"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:55:36 No.12581039 Report

Quoted By: >>12581052

Kek, Jeffrey Whomst is behind the camera holding a gun to those presenter’s heads

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:55:49 No.12581043 Report

Quoted By: >>12581089

>>12580158
>Yes, but if there is nothing to slow you down, why does the orbital velocity matter. Do you need to orbit a planet in order to land on it?
I was answering why no atmosphere on a large planet would make it harder to land on it. I have no clue what you're on about with orbital velocity here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:56:45 No.12581047 Report

Quoted By:

lol what a shitshow

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:57:14 No.12581049 Report

Quoted By:

Jesus Christ... is there a more pathetic and lazy name for a space company than “Blue Origin”? Absolutely soulless

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:58:04 No.12581052 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581039
Does Jeff even know what Blue Origin is anymore besides getting $1 billion bills for it annually

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:58:22 No.12581058 Report

Quoted By: >>12581062 >>12581067

>stan stan stan everywhere in chat
I thought it was just out local retard forcing a meme, is this a thing outside of these threads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 16:59:45 No.12581061 Report

Quoted By: >>12581072

When is NS-14 supposed to take off? The T- countdown isn't moving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:00:04 No.12581062 Report

Quoted By: >>12581065

>>12581058
Yeah it’s actually kind of funny. Bezos has had this company for 20 years and he has yet to put a single gram into orbit. I’m glad the chat is trolling

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:00:14 No.12581063 Report

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>T - 12:00
>13 minutes of hold and counting
J U S T

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:00:32 No.12581065 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581062
Almost 2 minutes ago. It's in a hold that just keeps getting longer and longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:01:08 No.12581067 Report

Quoted By: >>12581078

>>12581058
"stan" has been around forever. Its specific usage in aerospace is r*dditors with a cultural aversion to admitting one thing can be better than another thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:01:44 No.12581070 Report

Quoted By: >>12581073 >>12581075

>mid-level winds
Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:02:13 No.12581072 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581061
Welcome to rocket launches. This is a hold. Launches are almost always a mystery. May be delayed for a few minutes. A few hours or scrubbed for a few days. Gotta get comfy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:02:25 No.12581073 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581070
We got too cocky LNGbros

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:03:06 No.12581075 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581070
It's an 18m tall glorified sounding rocket. You could probably topple it with a vuvuzuela.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:03:10 No.12581076 Report

Quoted By: >>12581084 >>12581088 >>12581091 >>12581097 >>12581101 >>12581102

Why hate New Shepard tho?
Like isn't launch of any rocket good thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:03:38 No.12581078 Report

Quoted By: >>12581088 >>12581092

>>12581067
>"stan" has been around forever
Where? Not here until recently with one anon posting it repeatedly. This some twitch shit or a discord thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:04:01 No.12581082 Report

Quoted By:

>space camp
is her kid ice wallo come?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:04:25 No.12581084 Report

Quoted By: >>12581108

>>12581076
It's a toy, it's not a real rocket.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:04:37 No.12581087 Report

Quoted By: >>12581359

What went wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:04:42 No.12581088 Report

Quoted By: >>12581108 >>12581134

>>12581078
It’s from twitter I believe
>>12581076
No, this rocket sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:04:44 No.12581089 Report

Quoted By: >>12581515 >>12582093

>>12581043
I was asking about why the orbital velocity is brutal. Reffering to this part:
>11.3 km/s orbital velocity with no atmosphere is brutal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:04:50 No.12581090 Report

Quoted By:

Who do they have these cringe scripted interjections all the time? Fuck it's tiresome

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:05:15 No.12581091 Report

Quoted By: >>12581108

>>12581076
The experiments it holds can be launched on 1940s rocket tech

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:05:19 No.12581092 Report

Quoted By: >>12581134 >>12581173

>>12581078
General internet culture. Means obsessed fan, originated from the Eminem song. And yeah I realize, that's why I separated the general usage and the specific usage in this sphere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:06:15 No.12581096 Report

Quoted By:

>MILLIONS OF PEOPLE LIVING AND WORKING IN SPACE
>can't reach orbit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:06:20 No.12581097 Report

Quoted By: >>12581108

>>12581076
It's a mushroom headed little pindick when we've gotten used to Humanities humongous steel thundercock.

Also >Suborbital

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:06:42 No.12581100 Report

Quoted By:

Jeff Bezos realizing his wife is gone, Elon is now richer than him, and his youtube chat is just dunking on him. That’s what he gets for being a social justice fraud lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:06:55 No.12581101 Report

Quoted By: >>12581108

>>12581076
Imagine if SpaceX, instead of developing Falcon 9, just kept launching one grasshopper a year for the last 10 years and expected people to get excited about it. That's New Shephard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:07:45 No.12581102 Report

Quoted By: >>12581108

>>12581076
Imagine if NASA launched Freedom 7 and just kept doing that, not going any further, all the while talking about how they're gonna land on the Moon. Meanwhile the Russians keep laughing. In this situation however, SpaceX are advancing rather than doing just propaganda victories.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:07:46 No.12581103 Report

Quoted By:

Hope it blows up, fuck your "space" tourism, Jeff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:08:00 No.12581104 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pISzxdEgDCU

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:08:28 No.12581106 Report

Quoted By: >>12581114

SpaceX ninjas are currently battling BO paramilitary forces in west Texas

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:08:42 No.12581107 Report

Quoted By: >>12582099

>every continent
>none from africa
>none from oceania
uhh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:08:50 No.12581108 Report

Quoted By: >>12581110 >>12581112 >>12581115 >>12581117

>>12581088
>>12581084
>>12581091
>>12581097
>>12581101
>>12581102

I mean even if it's relatively shit, but launch of rocket anyway in principle is pretty cool...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:09:47 No.12581110 Report

Quoted By: >>12581135

>>12581108
No. This is a fucking carnival attraction for the terminally rich and bored.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:09:52 No.12581111 Report

Quoted By: >>12582844

>tfw some dudes in copenhagen are going to do manned suborbital flight in their free time, through crowdfunding
Jeff pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:09:58 No.12581112 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581108
Yeah if it was orbital at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:10:26 No.12581114 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581106
ULA Netrunners poking holes in the BO grid causing launch holds, SpaceX corposec watching nervously from afar

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:10:28 No.12581115 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581108
If literally every launch blows your skirt up even if it's sborbibal and meaningless that's fine by me, still reserve the right to laugh at Jeff Who tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:10:56 No.12581117 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581108
It’s a simple hydrogen engine that basically just takes a tube and a payload to the 100 km mark (literally the bare minimum of ‘hahaha it’s TECHNICALLY space XD’) and comes back down.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:11:04 No.12581118 Report

Quoted By: >>12581129 >>12581143 >>12581150

propulsinve landing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:12:16 No.12581129 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581118
The booster always did propulsive landing. I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:12:30 No.12581130 Report

Quoted By: >>12581146 >>12581422

>Estronaut visibly upset when he reads chat
Jeff who?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:12:33 No.12581132 Report

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:12:52 No.12581134 Report

Quoted By: >>12581138 >>12581144 >>12582643

>>12581088
Ah that explains it, I don't use that faggotty shit
>>12581092
When did M&M become relevant again? Isn't he like 50? That song came out like 20 years ago, weird that it'd pop up again now in meme (((culture)))

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:12:59 No.12581135 Report

Quoted By: >>12581139

>>12581110
Do you mean stream is intended for rich and bored?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:13:01 No.12581136 Report

Quoted By:

>LOX-LNG engine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:13:25 No.12581138 Report

Quoted By: >>12581162

>>12581134
It's been around a long time, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:13:25 No.12581139 Report

Quoted By: >>12581148

>>12581135
You really don't know what NS-4 is intended for, do you?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:14:24 No.12581143 Report

Quoted By: >>12581151 >>12581152 >>12581154 >>12581687 >>12581690 >>12581715

>>12581118

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:14:27 No.12581144 Report

Quoted By: >>12581162

>>12581134
It was the Kpop fags that popularized it on Twitter

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:14:34 No.12581145 Report

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>>12581132
>Chiken Takeover

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:14:38 No.12581146 Report

Quoted By: >>12581165

>>12581130
For real? Maybe he really believes that TEAM SPACE shit after all lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:15:17 No.12581148 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581139
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:15:51 No.12581150 Report

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>>12581118
The spaceflight equivalent of one of those 25 cent car rides for kids in the mall

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:15:56 No.12581151 Report

Quoted By: >>12582644

>>12581143
Dangerously based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:15:55 No.12581152 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581143
10/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:15:57 No.12581154 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581143
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:16:00 No.12581155 Report

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>>12580022
Von Braun was such a cool guy.

>>12580199
ATMoM is actually a really solid example. If you postulate that their aether-wings had an effect similar to a plasma magnet sail it's STILL hard scifi today aside from the fictitious Antarctic geography, and it was written in the 1930s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:16:03 No.12581156 Report

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Could an expendable second stage be put on the top of New Shepard to turn it into a partially-reusable orbital smallsat launcher?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:16:06 No.12581157 Report

Quoted By:

looooooooooool, we're back in hold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:16:43 No.12581160 Report

Quoted By: >>12581161 >>12581163

What the hell do they do during the ten second holds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:17:17 No.12581161 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581160
edging

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:17:17 No.12581162 Report

Quoted By: >>12581172

>>12581144
I know nothing of that world so I'll take your word for it.
>>12581138
It started getting forced here just a few months ago by one anon, don't pretend otherwise just because it was you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:17:23 No.12581163 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581160
No, their holds are for as long as they fucking feel like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:17:35 No.12581165 Report

Quoted By: >>12581171 >>12581381

>>12581146
He's constantly coping
>you can like other things than starship
>they're doing important experiments

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:17:45 No.12581166 Report

Quoted By:

>after this estronaut releases a video with a title like "a serious message to the community" and all the r*dditors come out to villify/apologize
I will fucking lose it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:18:24 No.12581171 Report

Quoted By:

>in b4 another hold

>>12581165
>important experiments
Like send up postcards?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:18:47 No.12581172 Report

Quoted By: >>12581179

>>12581162
I was answering a fucking question nimrod, no I don't use it here I've just been around the block longer than you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:18:49 No.12581173 Report

Quoted By: >>12581174 >>12581176

>>12581092
Which song?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:19:48 No.12581174 Report

Quoted By: >>12581182

>>12581173
literally stan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:19:52 No.12581176 Report

Quoted By: >>12581182

>>12581173
lel
Stan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:20:19 No.12581177 Report

Quoted By:

Q ON BOARD

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:20:20 No.12581178 Report

Quoted By: >>12581205 >>12581294 >>12581429 >>12582690

>>12579751
How demoralising must it be for Blue Origin that by the time they can mount a challenge to Starship via New Armstrong, Spacex will probably be flying an 18m variant of starship that can get 500 tons minimum to space(if the height stayed the same) and atleast 700-1000 tons if height increased by the efforts of the magicians in the Raptor and alloy dev department. Theyll probably be a comfy SLS replacement as the second national launch architecture for the US gov and be rolling in tax payers money. But I think Blue chance of being a SpaceX equal is gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:20:27 No.12581179 Report

Quoted By: >>12581195

>>12581172
Yes yes anon, we've all been here longer than everyone else. Don't take it personally that I think the 'stan' meme is gay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:20:39 No.12581180 Report

Quoted By:

>imperial metrics

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:21:09 No.12581182 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581174
>>12581176
Kek. Thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:21:12 No.12581183 Report

Quoted By: >>12581190

>altitude
>ft
>feet
>fucking FEET

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:21:55 No.12581184 Report

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The drone shot was pretty cool, maybe we can see SpaceX doing something like that in Boca

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:22:20 No.12581185 Report

Quoted By:

The audio on engine startup was pretty cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:22:31 No.12581187 Report

Quoted By:

Boca Chica BTFO'd by Corn Ranch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:22:45 No.12581188 Report

Quoted By:

>announcer mic keeps cutting out
I understand, the technology required to send a voice around the world is still new and complicated

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:22:47 No.12581189 Report

Quoted By:

No separation camera? Seriously?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:22:50 No.12581190 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581183
Makes the numbers look big.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:22:54 No.12581191 Report

Quoted By:

10/10 cameras

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:23:38 No.12581192 Report

Quoted By: >>12581201

>TFW no masculine QT she-male tomboy presenter for Starship

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:23:52 No.12581194 Report

Quoted By: >>12581201

>leave spaceX to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:24:13 No.12581195 Report

Quoted By: >>12581218

>>12581179
>guy asks something
>answer
>take offence that someone knows more than you about anything and start accusing them of shit
Why are you like this? I don't give a shit about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:25:38 No.12581201 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581192
Musked.
>>12581194
Shelbyd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:25:42 No.12581202 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580136
>>12580160
The argument is that nobody can prove ecology won't suddenly appear in the future and that humans have no right to interfere with the martian/ceresian/2001YY and so on indigenous life that might come to exist.

Just so you that reasoning is real and not a shitpost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:27:01 No.12581205 Report

Quoted By: >>12581411

>>12581178
>demoralizing
I suspect that if they are at all demoralized from being paid to do no work, it will be because they are yet to launch anything in orbit despite nearing retirement after 20 years of hard work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:27:05 No.12581206 Report

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LMAO it barely made the landing pad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:27:08 No.12581207 Report

Quoted By:

>camera knocked over
lol
>spends forever hovering and nowhere near the bullseye
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:27:08 No.12581208 Report

Quoted By:

Elon Who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:27:11 No.12581209 Report

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For a moment I thought it was going to fall sideways holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:27:15 No.12581210 Report

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Did a little hovering there but it made it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:27:30 No.12581212 Report

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That touchdown looked super sketchy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:27:43 No.12581215 Report

Quoted By:

>No bullseye on landing pad
yikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:27:48 No.12581216 Report

Quoted By: >>12581226

HOLY FUCK THEY JUST LANDED A BOOSTER
SPACEX IS FINISHED

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:28:25 No.12581218 Report

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>>12581195
>taking it personally

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:28:42 No.12581222 Report

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Did it fail? I'm too busy spamming jeff who in chat to have noticed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:28:46 No.12581223 Report

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god, imagine spending six figures for like 2 minutes in suborbital space

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:28:49 No.12581224 Report

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BO's landing profile must use like 4x the fuel to SpaceX's suicide burn just for the sake of being able to claim they're not doing the exact same thing lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:28:50 No.12581225 Report

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why it's tilted

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:28:58 No.12581226 Report

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>>12581216
If only SpaceX was in the carnival business, they might feel threatened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:30:01 No.12581229 Report

Quoted By: >>12581239 >>12581253

How big is the Blue Origin rocket compared to Starship?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:30:18 No.12581230 Report

Quoted By: >>12581232 >>12581239 >>12581240 >>12581243

Did the thrusters even fire? Speed went 20 MPH to 0 instantly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:30:44 No.12581232 Report

Quoted By: >>12581240 >>12581241

>>12581230
Didn't look like it. Oof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:31:10 No.12581234 Report

Quoted By: >>12581240 >>12581244

>only 3 minutes of 0g then back down you go
lmao what is the point of this thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:31:59 No.12581239 Report

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>>12581229
New Shepard (full stack) is 18 meters tall. Starship is 50m.

>>12581230
It always looks like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:32:01 No.12581240 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581230
>>12581232
Alibaba tier avionics for the stream.

>>12581234
To provide entertainment for the terminally rich and bored.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:32:21 No.12581241 Report

Quoted By: >>12581249

>>12581232
The lady is droning on about a "soft landing" and thrusters while the capsule slams down on screen. Hilarious shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:32:26 No.12581243 Report

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>>12581230
>estronaut will be the first passenger because you need to be spineless to survive

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:32:30 No.12581244 Report

Quoted By: >>12581264

>>12581234
You get more weightlessness from the vomit-comet don't you? They usually do like 20+ loops on one of those flights, this thing is literally useless.
Neat drone shots of it launching though I'll admit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:33:45 No.12581248 Report

Quoted By: >>12581257 >>12582137

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1349766940059987971
>The rumor I've heard is NS-16 is a possible human flight
hmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:33:52 No.12581249 Report

Quoted By: >>12581317

>>12581241
The "slam" is retrothrusters just like Soyuz touches down. That much they have sorted. It's in the fucking desert after all so dust blasting up from a thruster fire is normal.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:34:59 No.12581253 Report

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>>12581229
The New Glenn is much bigger, not to mention much more advanced and safer. It was designed and assembled by the best of the best, for we at Blue Origin care about having people put their trust in us, knowing they can count on us to fully deliver, be it on schedule or premises.
Failure is no option. Succes is imminent. Hail Bezos. Go Blue Origin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:35:01 No.12581254 Report

Quoted By: >>12581266

How is her audio cutting out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:35:42 No.12581257 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581248
Who is the lucky person who gets to ride the dildo of truth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:35:47 No.12581258 Report

Quoted By: >>12581268 >>12581270

> On 23 November 2015, after reaching 100.5 km (62.4 mi) altitude (outer space), the suborbital New Shepard booster successfully performed a powered vertical soft landing, the first time a suborbital booster rocket had returned from space to make a successful vertical landing

>Unlike most rockets, which are expendable launch systems, since the introduction of the Full Thrust version, Falcon 9 is partially reusable, with the first stage capable of re-entering the atmosphere and landing vertically after separating from the second stage. This feat was achieved for the first time on flight 20 in December 2015.

wait so shepard did soft vertical landing earlier than falcon 9?

it's such shame that they didn't develop since that time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:36:16 No.12581262 Report

Quoted By: >>12581271

>going suborbital is "inspiring"

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:36:23 No.12581264 Report

Quoted By: >>12581274 >>12581282

>>12581244
Yes lmao, the vomit comet is cheaper and you get more time to fly around

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:36:43 No.12581266 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581254
Doing coverage of space is hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:36:57 No.12581268 Report

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>>12581258
Yeah, Bezos even congratulated SpaceX for being 2nd.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:36:59 No.12581269 Report

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:37:11 No.12581270 Report

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>>12581258
Who cares about suborbital. That's like winning a medal in the paralympics when running alongside downies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:37:15 No.12581271 Report

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>>12581262
ok suborbital starship was good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:37:22 No.12581274 Report

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>>12581264
Wernher is such a sperg on camera lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:37:36 No.12581275 Report

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damn that stream cut fast

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:37:59 No.12581276 Report

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>>12581269
Nominal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:38:47 No.12581279 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581269
New Shep doing its Starship impression

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:39:19 No.12581281 Report

Quoted By: >>12581291

>may have won the HLS
Did I hear estronaut correctly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:39:25 No.12581282 Report

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>>12581264
I didn't know he got to experience weightlessness, that's awesome. Good for him.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:40:07 No.12581288 Report

Quoted By: >>12581290 >>12582847

>>12581269
yeah what the fuck was that

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:41:10 No.12581290 Report

Quoted By: >>12581313 >>12581347

>>12581288
it was so far off course that it took out a camera on the way down

Could someone get a webm of the wobbling after landing burn light?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:41:16 No.12581291 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581281
Sounds like he's just speculating

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:41:19 No.12581292 Report

Quoted By: >>12581299

>>12581269
>looks drunk
>lands off-center on dry land with no wind
>spend seconds hovering in the air because they can't calculate a hoverslam
Considering that NS is a tumescent landing test bed, you'd think they'd at least advance their landing profile with it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:42:06 No.12581294 Report

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>>12581178
Hey nerds, I got a question. I understamd that for a possible 18m Starship to not look like a fat chode and have some decent height increase, the Raptors will need to get significantly more powerful or spacex will need to create a special light steel alloy. Do people in the know think that Raptor 3.0 or 4.0 can have enough power to give an 18m variant atleast a 30 percent boost to the height so it wont look comically fat and maybe push the capacity to the 1000 ton mark? Is that in the realm of possibilities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:43:02 No.12581299 Report

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>>12581292
You'd think after twenty fucking years they would figure out how to get it near the center of the landing pad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:43:14 No.12581301 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581294
Chodes are the future anon, embrace V O L U M E

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:43:40 No.12581304 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581294
Raptor 2 will be a nuclear salt water rocket
t. knower

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:44:03 No.12581305 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581294
>not wanting the CHONK starship
never gonna make it bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:44:29 No.12581306 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581294
It looks comically fat because all our rockets are tiny stick missiles. Once things go big they gotta go wide that's how it works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:45:04 No.12581308 Report

Quoted By:

>this was that booster's first flight
Didn't it have soot on it at launch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:45:50 No.12581310 Report

Quoted By: >>12581323

>>12581294
18m Starship will basically be ITS but W I D E

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:46:32 No.12581313 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581290

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:46:53 No.12581316 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581294
The New Glenn will be as wide as 25m, and it's height will be of about 50m
t. New Glenn engineer

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:47:09 No.12581317 Report

Quoted By: >>12581319 >>12581320 >>12581322 >>12581335 >>12581340 >>12581363

>>12581249
Are you absolutely positive those thrusters did anything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:48:18 No.12581319 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581317
Every fucking NS landing looks the same and those numbers on screen are not accurate, listen to what she said on stream a bit closer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:49:00 No.12581320 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581317
They absolutely fired

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:49:58 No.12581322 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581317
Its dusty down there

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:50:10 No.12581323 Report

Quoted By: >>12581328

>>12581310
The nice thing about chonkship is that you can finally do ITS style landing legs without ruining your mass budget thanks to square-cube magic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:52:05 No.12581328 Report

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>>12581323
Fuck yeah baby

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:53:17 No.12581335 Report

Quoted By: >>12581341 >>12581352

>>12581317
What's the material difference between a crash and a thruster fire if both are practically instantaneous? I wanna see some actual g figures on this thing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:54:29 No.12581340 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581317
https://youtu.be/-l7MM9yoxII?t=1089

Soyuz looks similar but you can see the light from the ignition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:54:39 No.12581341 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581335
>What's the material difference between a crash and a thruster fire if both are practically instantaneous?
Propellant budget?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:55:07 No.12581342 Report

Quoted By: >>12581345 >>12581349 >>12581351 >>12581354 >>12581371 >>12581374

How they're gonna transport starship, knowing that it's size is too big and wide for roads? Via sea?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:55:45 No.12581344 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581294
>Make penis shaped rockets
>Feminists complain
>Make shorter fat rockets
>Feminists complain less
>Make round, short, vagina shaped rockets
>Feminists love it enough to fund it via Kickstarter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:56:09 No.12581345 Report

Quoted By: >>12581358

>>12581342
It has engines.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:56:16 No.12581347 Report

Quoted By: >>12581357 >>12581361 >>12581721 >>12582847

>>12581290

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:56:24 No.12581349 Report

Quoted By: >>12581358

>>12581342
Starship assumes direct control and flies wherever it needs to go on its own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:56:51 No.12581351 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581342
They'll build them right next to the launch site, and also have ship launch sites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:57:16 No.12581352 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581335

It is dropping by ~20 mph so an equivalent 20 mph car crash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:58:02 No.12581354 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581342
The barge is the most important vehicle in spaceflight

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:58:24 No.12581357 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581347
thanks, anon. It really went off to the left there just before landing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:58:25 No.12581358 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581349
>>12581345
I understand that it can flies itself, but then cost of fuel could be pretty high

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 17:59:46 No.12581359 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581087
They got too cocky bro

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:00:04 No.12581361 Report

Quoted By: >>12581364 >>12581368 >>12581721 >>12581778

>>12581347
I can't tell if this is more precise or less precise then SpaceX

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:00:36 No.12581363 Report

Quoted By: >>12582652

>>12581317
For comparison. SpaceX splashdown looks much softer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:00:51 No.12581364 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581361
The most recent Falcon landing was a perfect bullseye... on a ship in the ocean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:01:21 No.12581366 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581024
It would be hilarious if they put a chinese person on one of the artemis missions so nasa could say they put the first chinese person on the moon before china did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:01:25 No.12581368 Report

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>>12581361
spacex bullseyes every time without hovering

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:01:46 No.12581371 Report

Quoted By: >>12581376

>>12581342
I'm pretty sure they'll only ever launch into orbit from Boca Chica and KSC so yeah by boat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:02:24 No.12581374 Report

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>>12581342
they could hop to and from land to their sea launch site

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:03:01 No.12581376 Report

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>>12581371
You think they won't build second etc port?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:05:15 No.12581381 Report

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>>12581165
Blue Origin must absolutely be bullied if they will have any chance of getting to orbit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:11:37 No.12581393 Report

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>thread dead

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:11:45 No.12581394 Report

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>>12580102
she will ensure a white man never walks on the moon again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:12:51 No.12581399 Report

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>>12580409
based northrop

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:12:52 No.12581400 Report

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>>12581394
Hey that's my bike!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:17:20 No.12581408 Report

Quoted By: >>12581428 >>12582225

here's a video of elon getting his mclaren f1 in 1999.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9mczdODqzo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:18:15 No.12581411 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581205
some people actually want to do something with space. not everyone is boeing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:25:27 No.12581422 Report

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>>12581130
respect is something that must be earned. You can't just DEMAND that people like a multi-billion-dollar corporation. And then there's that too. This is a corp funded by the richest jackass in the world it's not a fucking person who cares if people dump on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:26:26 No.12581425 Report

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https://youtu.be/R8PEnK3aoFQ?t=263
>I mean I'm not really super hardcore about being ultra environmental in all things, because I think that you don't want to make life miserable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:26:37 No.12581426 Report

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Someone said BO is planning for two flights this year, any info on the second one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:27:21 No.12581428 Report

Quoted By: >>12581437

>>12581408
This video and era is why Elon was largely hated before Falcon Heavy by a large group of people. You can see more clearly after watching this why those Russians wouldn't sell him rockets.

Justine saying 'decadent' or indeed anything is grating and unbearable but Elon is fucking hilarious in this vid. She essentially divorced him because she wanted to be known in her own right as a novelist and not as someones wife so unbearable is it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:27:46 No.12581429 Report

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>>12581178
BO is going to be reduced to an engine manufacturer by that point. Though Jeff might keep New Glenn around as his personal starlink competitor ferry. SpaceX having their own rockets to put sats in place is a huge advantage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:28:47 No.12581430 Report

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>>12580102
people don't understand that Kamala is a corporate shill first and a democrat second. She presided over the facebook whatsapp merger and said nothing only to shockingly receive a sizeable corporate donation sometime later. She's going to sell out to the highest bidder which means lining oldspace pockets and cost plus defense programs and extending deadlines so people can get paid for longer.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:29:03 No.12581431 Report

Quoted By: >>12581439 >>12581441

https://physicsworld.com/a/dark-coated-starlink-satellites-are-better-but-not-perfect-say-astronomers/
>Horiuchi suggests that it would also be a good idea to raise the operating altitude of the Starlink satellites. Satellites in a rival constellation operated by OneWeb are darker, he notes, because their orbital altitude is higher, at 1200 km.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:31:11 No.12581437 Report

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>>12581428
Justine may be perpetually butthurt, but she did bear him 5 children which in some sense makes her a far better wife than most. Very rare for Whites to have more than 3 kids now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:31:49 No.12581439 Report

Quoted By: >>12581519

>>12581431
I hate how many people pretend to care about astronomy just to take the moral high-ground in expressing their purely emotional disdain of billionaires. If they actually cared about astronomy they'd be pressing SpaceX to commit to launching telescopes and financing space observation capabilities themselves.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:32:39 No.12581440 Report

Quoted By: >>12581442

>likely need to do work on SN9
>can't because winds are too high
could they install a windbreak around the launch pad or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:33:09 No.12581441 Report

Quoted By: >>12581447

>>12581431
I would be absolutely fine with Starlink sats having max brightness so we all see the trains constantly circling above even in daylight. That'd be awesome, astronomers are dorks just build a space telescope you dips, you can't tell me you LIKE looking through our hazy atmosphere at shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:33:12 No.12581442 Report

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>>12581440
That's called a VAB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:34:29 No.12581447 Report

Quoted By: >>12581458

>>12581441
I want visible trains if only to blow the fuck out of the "space is fake" types, flat earthers, etc.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:38:47 No.12581457 Report

Quoted By: >>12581472

SN10 has TPS tiles on its aft flap

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:38:48 No.12581458 Report

Quoted By: >>12581463 >>12581478 >>12581724 >>12582537 >>12582648

>>12581447
>"FAKE! those are just points of light put up there by lasers projecting on the firmament!"
Reminder that flat-earthers aren't real, they're all trolls 100%. I refuse to accept someone telling me they're a flat-earther, nigga stop lying no you ain't.
This tends to make them very mad, which I enjoy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:39:58 No.12581463 Report

Quoted By: >>12581482

>>12581458
I live by the ocean and every time a ship comes to port it proves that the Earth is round (by coming up over the horizon top to bottom). I refuse to believe that Flat Earthers are serious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:42:10 No.12581472 Report

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>>12581457
Probably just for testing during movement/flight, doubt it's for orbit stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:42:19 No.12581473 Report

Quoted By: >>12581480 >>12581530

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-xiWn4n8JE
based alert

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:43:12 No.12581478 Report

Quoted By: >>12581484 >>12581496 >>12581501 >>12582346

>>12581458
>flat-earthers aren't real, they're all trolls
At least one of them died trying to prove his cause. Also, does he count as TeamSpace?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:43:39 No.12581480 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581473
I'm gonna SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:44:04 No.12581482 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581463
This has been debunked

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:44:25 No.12581484 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581478
ACME rocket company

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:47:59 No.12581496 Report

Quoted By: >>12581513 >>12583384

>>12581478
That guy's friends said he "believed" in a flat earth for notoriety.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:49:21 No.12581501 Report

Quoted By: >>12581513 >>12581514 >>12581525

>>12581478
Did that guy really buy into the memes? Maybe he just wanted to piggyback it in order to ride a homemade rocket, looks like it was fun up until it wasn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:52:42 No.12581513 Report

Quoted By: >>12581527

>>12581496
>>12581501
Yeah I'm wrong and a faggot, turns out he was a daredevil first and foremost and used flat earth to advertise his tv show

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:52:52 No.12581514 Report

Quoted By: >>12581522 >>12581527

>>12581501
He literally died to a KSP staging fuckup, until I hear otherwise he's more based than any person in this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:53:02 No.12581515 Report

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>>12581089
Probably because you can't aerobrake without an atmosphere? That means you have to throost to slow down to orbital velocity, or you won't get captured.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:53:26 No.12581519 Report

Quoted By: >>12581524 >>12581528 >>12581531 >>12581552 >>12581561

>>12581439
I care about astronomy and am suspicious of Starlink for that reason. I will not press a private company to finance space observation, because I'm not a retarded commie.

What now?

Jeff Who?

Jeff Who? Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:53:51 No.12581520 Report

Quoted By:

>Live chat replay was turned off for this video.

heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:54:23 No.12581522 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581514
His rocket reached kike 500 feet. I mean it’s still cool but he could’ve gone higher up climbing a hill

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:55:27 No.12581524 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581519
>I care about astronomy
Yikes look at the faggot over here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:55:48 No.12581525 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581501
Why would anyone need to piggyback some retarded movement to ride a homemade rocket? One could get a decent paycheck and build one himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:56:21 No.12581527 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581513
lmao that's pretty smart though, I hope flatearthers paid for his rocket in full.
>>12581514
What a way to go

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:56:27 No.12581528 Report

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>>12581519
>I will not press a private company to finance space observation, because I'm not a retarded commie.
>private company
>commie

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:57:29 No.12581530 Report

Quoted By: >>12581647

>>12581473
wew. What payload was this thing supposed to be capable of? And what engines was it using in its 2nd stage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 18:57:51 No.12581531 Report

Quoted By: >>12581551

>>12581519
>I will not press a private company to finance space observation
It's a business venture, charge telescope time for observers on the ground. Hell make a fleet of 'em with your profits so waiting time for users is reduced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:04:24 No.12581551 Report

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>>12581531
Or just fly to the far side of the moon to build a telescope while reviewing the images/signals from a spindly moon-wizard tower

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:04:30 No.12581552 Report

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>>12581519
I dislike you but will enjoy Elon & the starlink competitors completely mogging you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:08:17 No.12581561 Report

Quoted By: >>12581724

>>12581519
Earth-based optical astronomy is not worth preserving. It's like saying we shouldn't pave roads because horses find dirt paths more comfortable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:12:33 No.12581575 Report

Quoted By: >>12581620

pretty fucking kino ngl

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:13:37 No.12581579 Report

Quoted By: >>12581590 >>12581620

someone calculate the total THROOOOOOOOOOOOST

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:16:35 No.12581590 Report

Quoted By: >>12581595

>>12581579
4 SRBs and five RS-25s?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:18:57 No.12581595 Report

Quoted By: >>12583154

>>12581590
Are those RS-25s? They might be F1-bs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:25:18 No.12581620 Report

Quoted By: >>12581688

>>12581575
>>12581579
Assuming those are 5 RS-25’s and 4 Shuttle SRBs, the total thrust would be 5X(2000kn) + 4X(12000kn). The vehicle would have 58000kilonewtons of force, or 83% the thrust of Superheavy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:25:38 No.12581623 Report

Quoted By: >>12581628 >>12581638

How did we go from this

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:26:41 No.12581628 Report

Quoted By: >>12581630 >>12581638

>>12581623
and this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:27:22 No.12581630 Report

Quoted By: >>12581635

>>12581628
Why is it missing an engine

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:27:43 No.12581631 Report

Quoted By: >>12581638

and this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:28:15 No.12581635 Report

Quoted By: >>12581650

>>12581630
It uses 3 SSMEs for LEO transport missions and 4 when using a giant upper stage. Back then, SSME’s costed $60 Million apiece.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:28:39 No.12581638 Report

Quoted By: >>12581644

>>12581631
>>12581628
>>12581623
isn't this just literally SLS? Aside from the weird inline engine config

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:28:55 No.12581640 Report

Quoted By: >>12581649 >>12581681

this too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:29:37 No.12581644 Report

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>>12581638
No it uses an existing external tank with modifications. There’s no “extra segment” like with SLS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:30:36 No.12581647 Report

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>>12581530
What the fuck is that abomination?
Looks like something I built in KSP out of random parts.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:30:43 No.12581649 Report

Quoted By: >>12581778

>>12581640
to THIS??

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:31:35 No.12581650 Report

Quoted By: >>12581693

>>12581635
Jesus, expensive AND ugly?
Lousy stinkin' rocket

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:41:10 No.12581681 Report

Quoted By: >>12581727 >>12581746

>>12581640
the "common tanking" lie never fails to piss me off. You can't just take an external tank and make it the structural core of a new rocket. They were always going to have to redesign the thing from the ground-up. This was a deliberate, malicious lie perpetuated by oldspace ghouls in order to swindle congress to fund their fundamentally flawed project that put contractors first and humanity's progress in space at the bottom. In a just world they would be thrown in jail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:43:15 No.12581687 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581143
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:44:22 No.12581688 Report

Quoted By: >>12581696

>>12581620
>83% the thrust of Superheavy.
Woah... Is that the power of Hydromeme?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:44:41 No.12581690 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581143
I have seen the light

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:46:11 No.12581693 Report

Quoted By: >>12581840

>>12581650
someone must do a non grainy version of this pic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:46:32 No.12581696 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581688
Even the SRBs aren't throosty enough to compete with 28 Raptors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:52:18 No.12581715 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581143
Jeff, this is embarrassing...and he says Blue Origin is his calling? It doesn't show

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:53:36 No.12581721 Report

Quoted By: >>12581731 >>12581744

>>12581361
>>12581347
just look at the thing, it's wobbly as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:54:18 No.12581724 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581458
No, there are legitimate retards, but the flat Earth conspiracy was actually started as a way to poison the well.
>>12581561
I love how the horse/car analogies only get more and more relevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:54:20 No.12581725 Report

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>>12579005
NASA research is public - if they did some research on methane it will be there.

Smells like retarded redditor. Methane is exotic fuel because nobody wanted it in light of hydrogen and hypergols as well as the well known kerosene, it seemed like a dumb idea.

The unidentified flying towers down there in TX also strongly suggest the claim is bullshit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:54:28 No.12581727 Report

Quoted By: >>12581737 >>12581782

>>12581681
Still the idea was different to what SLS eventually ended up instead of being a cylindrical modified ET it was a completely new stretched ET

Still makes you wonder where we would be now if NASA never agreed to prop up Shuttle legacy hardware/facilities and instead made a clean start, new rocket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:55:09 No.12581731 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581721
Is it more difficult because of it size though? Is it really fair to expect it to perform as well as a falcon 9?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:56:28 No.12581737 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581727
also 4 segment (same SRB as Shuttle) instead of the SLS new 5 segment

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:58:14 No.12581744 Report

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>>12581721
they may need to work on their landing algorithm.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 19:58:42 No.12581746 Report

Quoted By:

>>12579770
My limit in furfaggotry. Though I admit I'll be willing to negotiate a bit further if a loli is involved.

>>12581681
The problem wasn't engineering - the contractors scrapped the equipment and tooling because the contract for the SLS was delayed too much. As a result they had the option to build the same old tooling... or upgrade. Here we are with the orange abortion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:05:00 No.12581778 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581649
>this is the power of Old Space
>>12581361
If they don't have to repaint the logo every time, it's less. SpaceX had to stop repainting the X on the drone ships, it was too much work.
And they missed that far while going slow enough to hover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:05:58 No.12581782 Report

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>>12581727
Ironically, it might have meant no spacex because NASA would have its rocket.
The SLS, through some exquisite divine irony, might have actually saved spaceflight by not flying.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:16:01 No.12581821 Report

Quoted By: >>12581823 >>12581861 >>12581982

>>12579751
Alrigjt bro’s I’ve been designing a realistic interplanetary warship and I think I’m getting somewhere. Using a Pulsed Fission Fusion design like pic related, we can get a vehicle with an isp of 20,000 seconds. I also kept the Vehicle-only mass because it’s a neat thing. So that gives us a 100 metric ton “transporter.” But what about our warship payload? Well this was a bunch of (very rough) calculations but I took the mass of a “dry” C-130H Gunship (37 metric tons) and added the mass of an M1 Abrams tank (70 tons). Now I know that’s very rough but a C-130 has a fuckton of space inside it. It can’t definitely support a crew of at least a dozen for several weeks.

So the M1 Abrams would sit at the front of the C-130 body, in this scenario, and the 100-ton fusion “transporter” sits behind the C-130. The C-130 acts as the habitat and the Abrams is the “weapons room.” Combined, they mass 110 metric tons. However NASA states that a single person needs around 1 ton of consumables per year. 30 crew members on a three year mission thus need 90 tons of cargo, but we can round that up to 100 tons to be safe.

Anyhow that leaves us with 200 tons of payload for the fusion “transporter”, which itself masses 100 tons. The 300 ton “dry” Warship could hold 100 or so tons of Deutritium-Lithium propellant. With an isp of 20,000 seconds, that gives our warship a Delta V if 60 kilometers/second. Assuming a 30 kilometer/second boost and an equal but opposite deceleration at its destination, our warship can travel 1 AU in 2 months, or 5 AU in 10 months. It can travel from Earth to Saturn in a year and a half, or complete a round trip from there and back in three years.

>Atomic Rockets
>http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/realdesignsfusion.php

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:17:14 No.12581823 Report

Quoted By: >>12581836 >>12581910

>>12581821
Ah shit forgot pic. Anyhow it’s no Rocinante but at least it’s not impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:19:46 No.12581836 Report

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>>12581823
Atomic Rockets lets you link to specific points on a page, which is handy.

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/realdesignsfusion.php#puff

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:21:00 No.12581840 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581693
>he doesnt like the binary brush

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:27:40 No.12581861 Report

Quoted By: >>12581872 >>12581893

>>12581821
You have built an aircraft carrier/submarine. Gunships aren't meant to support their crew for extended periods of time. Tie it up to a mothership that can do to heavy burning and you can have something more reasonable.
I don't see the point of tanks when you can drop rocks at 60km/s however...

In addition wasting all that isp with so little fuel is a crime.

I think you are going at it with the wrong idea of simply transplanting an object from current warfare into environment it's not suited for - a bit like plopping a warhorse in space. Go at it with the idea you have 20k isp drive and see where it leads...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:32:17 No.12581872 Report

Quoted By: >>12581893

>>12581861
Fun fact, at 20,000 Isp a mass ratio of 2 is enough for over 135km/s delta-V. Really crank up the armor on that design and you still have a capable interplanetary battleship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:39:41 No.12581893 Report

Quoted By: >>12581907

>>12581872
>>12581861
Thanks for the advice bro’s. I’m currently fixing the design and I might draw it on paper (plus some math too). Deuterium and Lithium are actually pretty damn dense so upping the mass fraction is a non issue. I do seem to have run into a bottleneck with the vehicle thrust, however. 27.3 kiloNewton’s is what’s listed on the Atomic Rockets page. Now keep in mind even a 1000 metric ton Warship could reach 60 kilometers/second in 25 days of constant firing. At that speed (60 km/s), the vehicle can travel 5 AU in just 5 months. The downside is that there are no “ALEX WE NEED A 10 GEE BURN PRONTO!!!!” scenarios. This thing takes a month to reach top speed and a month to slowdown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:43:16 No.12581907 Report

Quoted By: >>12581961

>>12581893
>The downside is that there are no “ALEX WE NEED A 10 GEE BURN PRONTO!!!!” scenarios. This thing takes a month to reach top speed and a month to slowdown.
Most fusion designs can have LH2 or water injected into the exhaust to trade Isp for thrust. That's actually how the Epstein Drives are supposed to work. If you want an Li6-D fusion design with water to increase thrust check out the Lithium Salt Water option.

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist2.php#lswr

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:43:44 No.12581910 Report

Quoted By: >>12581961

>>12581823
Look at that mass distribution and gigantic flimsy moment arm. You're not maneuvering worth shit in that without cracking into it like a slim jim. No thrust worth shit over short engagements either. If you're dead set on a long haul high ISP low thrust for a military vehicle my suggestion would be to have the capability to ditch and re-attach to the thrust structure at will, leaving you with a high T/W maneuverable vehicle without all the dead mass as necessary. I won't comment on the actual design because we don't have weapons optimized for the role right now and frankly it's too ridiculous to think about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:49:43 No.12581932 Report

Quoted By: >>12581936 >>12581945 >>12581946 >>12581962 >>12581964 >>12581965 >>12581997

they finally gave up on the InSight mole
>“We’ve given it everything we’ve got, but Mars and our heroic mole remain incompatible,” said HP3’s principal investigator, Tilman Spohn of DLR. “Fortunately, we’ve learned a lot that will benefit future missions that attempt to dig into the subsurface.”
I NEVER want to hear anyone say robots are better at exploring than humans ever again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:50:50 No.12581936 Report

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>>12581932
The absolute state of NASA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:52:55 No.12581945 Report

Quoted By: >>12581975 >>12583177

>>12581932
Wait, how long were they sitting there trying to get it to work? I thought they were trying to stick that shit in the dirt like a year ago or more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:53:23 No.12581946 Report

Quoted By: >>12581963

>>12581932
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasa-insights-mole-ends-its-journey-on-mars/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:56:32 No.12581961 Report

Quoted By: >>12581984 >>12582126

>>12581907
Thanks bro’s for the advice. So would the Water-injected LSW engine be a “switching gears” of the PFF engine or would it be its own thing, mounted to the side?

>>12581910
The Atomic Rockets design shown is designed for deep space exploration. It’s purposely low-mass and flimsy. The propellant is actually pretty dense and we could pack it together and save a lot of the “flimsiness.” I’m also thinking of having a “cone” of armor around the drive section of the vehicle. Instead of the giant rectangular radiators in the diagram, instead one can use a pair of fuckhuge “wings” that jut outwards instead of up and down the body.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:56:34 No.12581962 Report

Quoted By: >>12583005

>>12581932
The power of diversity hires

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:57:17 No.12581963 Report

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>>12581946
>754th Martian day, or sol, of the mission
Oh, that long. Jesus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:57:28 No.12581964 Report

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>>12581932
>Bro robots do everything better bro
>spends over a year figuring out the most sophisticated way to hit a drill with a shovel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:57:32 No.12581965 Report

Quoted By: >>12581981

>>12581932
Robot scientists on /sfg/: replacing humans is basically trivial and I have discounted it as a concern in my heavily automated vision of the future
Robot scientists at NASA: waking up in cold sweats every night with visions of a boomer in a suit wielding a trowel overshadowing their every achievement in the last 50 years in 20 seconds

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 20:58:06 No.12581969 Report

Quoted By: >>12581979 >>12581998

NASA timeline for various missions this year

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:00:05 No.12581975 Report

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>>12581945
it landed on nov 26 2018

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:00:48 No.12581979 Report

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>>12581969
>Artemis 1 launch
Nani?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:01:10 No.12581981 Report

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>>12581965
lmao it's true

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:01:34 No.12581982 Report

Quoted By: >>12582007

>>12581821
Why would you need such a large crew for a gunship? Why do you need the mass of an Abrams tank in armor up front? Why would the hab mass as much as a C130 when much of the C130's mass is in it's wings and engines and fuel tanks none of which would end up in space?
Make the crew 8, three nukes two of whom are dedicated engineers, two spacers who are secondarily engineers to perform any external maintenance necessary, two weapons operators and an officer. Instead of a worthless projectile weapon have it mount several free-electron XUV lasers that sipp power from the drive's capacitors. Lasers need no ammo, your drive and it's power stores are their ammo, they need fire only a very brief amount of time to destroy any ship or missile, and especially with FELs their range is probably greater than the mechanical accuracy of their own mount.
Also, why so little fuel? Double it to 100 tons, no shame in having a sub-1 mass ratio because energy weapons like lasers are better than guns anyways, better to give the ship more legs than weigh it down with near-useless armor or projectile weapons which couldn't hope to out-race a fusion drive equipped vehicle in any case.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:01:40 No.12581983 Report

Quoted By: >>12582009 >>12583192

Why is it every rover moves at 4 mph? someone can surely build a rover that can traverse terrain safely and faster, why do none of them use lidar or automated driving/terrain navigation?

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:01:49 No.12581984 Report

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>>12581961
How are you going to compactify a z-pinch drive? Pretty sure all the length there is keep the bits that don't like being subjected to spikes of neutron radiation away from the business end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:04:26 No.12581997 Report

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>>12581932
>I NEVER want to hear anyone say robots are better at exploring than humans ever again
But they are. In theory. Once we get to robotics that advanced. Same old song as with SLS: give me five billions more, only five billions more...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:04:29 No.12581998 Report

Quoted By: >>12582013 >>12582044 >>12582056

>>12581969
>Q1 Select companies developing artemis III human lander(s)
If they don't pick Starship, which is the only lander to actually exist in any capacity, then Artemis is truly a lost cause

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:06:51 No.12582007 Report

Quoted By: >>12582091

>>12581982
http://toughsf.blogspot.com/2019/02/cold-laser-coupled-particle-beams.html
>Destroys your long-ass "warship" with a procsima cannon mounted on a small NTR powered rocket
Nothin' personnel, kid

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:08:10 No.12582009 Report

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>>12581983

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:09:17 No.12582013 Report

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>>12581998
obviously they will. nasa is head over heels for spacex

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:16:02 No.12582044 Report

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>>12581998
>lander(s)
>downselection to one lander is still on the table
They better not

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:18:47 No.12582056 Report

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>>12581998
They should launch every type and see how they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:20:11 No.12582060 Report

Quoted By: >>12582063 >>12582833

>Electron, Saturday, 0738 UTC
>SLS Hot Fire, Saturday, 2200 UTC
>SN9, Likely Saturday, ???
>LauncherOne, Sunday, 1800 UTC
>Falcon 9, Sunday, 1823 UTC
it should always be this busy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:20:45 No.12582061 Report

Quoted By: >>12582077 >>12582085

Wild next few days

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:21:04 No.12582063 Report

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>>12582060
>implying they won't all scrub

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:21:27 No.12582066 Report

Quoted By:

>>12580687
Using periods instead of commas to denote 10^3 multiples is cringe bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:22:52 No.12582071 Report

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>>12580810
Actually, the first fossils of life are cell wall coatings embedded inside extremely tin and tough crystals and the only reason they exist at all is because they formed in a small area of the world that just happens to have not been tectonically raped by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:23:56 No.12582077 Report

Quoted By: >>12582115

>>12582061
where's the dark mode option?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:24:41 No.12582079 Report

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>>12580859
When steel rusts it expands, which is why all of the buildings made from steel reinforced concrete from the early part of the last century have started having problems. Internal rebar expansion puts a tension force on the concrete and since concrete is garbage in tension it cracks. Roman concrete is still here because it's unreinforced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:25:53 No.12582083 Report

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>>12580952
Rocks get subducted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:25:57 No.12582085 Report

Quoted By: >>12582306

>>12582061
fuck virgin, they might be even more pozzed than BO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:28:07 No.12582091 Report

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>>12582007
Very interesting, if I'm getting this correctly what you could essentially do is use a cryocooled particle gun spitting out a combination of Cesium and Iodine, and then around it you'd have what is essentially just a slightly more spicy than normal laser pointer which would keep this particle beam coherent out to what is essentially an unlimited range, since light lag will throw off any attempts at target prediction long before the beam becomes too incoherent to be effective.
Seems like it would be most effective to use a small cluster of particle guns adjustable to produce overlapping spots at least out to one or two light-seconds (dependent on how fast the ships of the time are capable of dodging before you see their change in position), use the laser to "clench" all of these beams into one to minimize the surface area struck.
If memory serves this particle beam will strike the target with low impact but enormous force and essentially saw through it, since it has appreciable mass but is also traveling at high fractional C.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:28:18 No.12582092 Report

Quoted By:

>oneweb constellation size has shrunk to 6k sats
at least they arent out yet? that's still alot of launches to get that many sats in orbit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:29:09 No.12582093 Report

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>>12581089
Your landing burn becomes 11.3 km/s before gravity losses, which basically means to land you need to expend 13 km/s of delta V. That's what's brutal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:30:12 No.12582099 Report

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>>12581107
>oceania a continent
fuck off with that

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:31:30 No.12582102 Report

Quoted By: >>12582108

>chart of where the planned CLPS landing sites are thru 2024

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:32:21 No.12582105 Report

Quoted By: >>12582112 >>12582136

When you think about it, without starlink F9 would hardly be launching.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:32:50 No.12582106 Report

Quoted By: >>12582117 >>12582122 >>12582157

>sfg is just finding out about stans
oh no no no

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:33:42 No.12582108 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582102
Looking forward to the swarm of private lunar landers to mog China

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:33:55 No.12582112 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582105
I'm sure Russia could get a bunch of Baseduzes off the ground if somebody was buying launches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:34:17 No.12582115 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582077
Dark Reader

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:34:51 No.12582117 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582106
Fuck off and never come back

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:35:54 No.12582122 Report

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>>12582106
it's a conflict between boomer stans, zoomer stans, and obvlivious stans

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:36:34 No.12582126 Report

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>>12581961
>So would the Water-injected LSW engine be a “switching gears” of the PFF engine or would it be its own thing, mounted to the side?
It's an entirely superior form of propulsion. You can do torchship trajectories with a mass ratio of 20.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:38:31 No.12582136 Report

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>>12582105
That was kind of the point, the launch industry isn't huge and SpaceX had a ton of spare launch capacity sitting fallow, Starlink lets them productively make use of it. Even without that they launched more than double what ULA did last year though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:39:19 No.12582137 Report

Quoted By: >>12582140 >>12582148

>>12581248
Corroborated
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/14/jeff-bezos-blue-origin-aims-to-fly-people-on-new-shepard-by-april.html
>Blue Origin aims to launch the second test flight within six weeks, or by late February, and the first crewed flight six weeks after that, or by early April, people familiar with the company’s plans told CNBC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:41:40 No.12582140 Report

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>>12582137
If the plan is in April then it might only be pushed back to the end of the year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:42:40 No.12582143 Report

Quoted By:

Onions

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:43:40 No.12582147 Report

Quoted By: >>12582226 >>12582238 >>12582636

http://toughsf.blogspot.com/2021/01/moto-orion-mechanized-nuclear-pulse.html

Thoughts on this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:43:52 No.12582148 Report

Quoted By: >>12582161 >>12582166

>>12582137
What the fuck are they even testing, how long they can milk daddy Bezos for money? Every launch is exactly the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:46:30 No.12582157 Report

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>>12582106
anyone who says "stans" is a nigger to me

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:47:13 No.12582161 Report

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>>12582148
uummmmmmm slow and steady ferociously :^)

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:47:54 No.12582166 Report

Quoted By: >>12582187 >>12582189 >>12582193 >>12582460 >>12582904

>>12582148
According to the article, the next flight is supposed to be a repeat of a "stable configuration" (the configuration has been stable for over 10 flights now) and will involve loading an unloading crew (which they can do without launching it, right?)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:53:10 No.12582187 Report

Quoted By: >>12582196

>>12582166
Alex Mather you little shit top kek

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:53:37 No.12582189 Report

Quoted By: >>12582209 >>12582223 >>12582232 >>12582316 >>12582327 >>12582328 >>12582359 >>12582904

>>12582166
i'm loving the BO dogpiling lmao. this dude works in build reliability at spacex

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:54:01 No.12582193 Report

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>>12582166
Jesus Christ that pic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:55:03 No.12582196 Report

Quoted By: >>12582201 >>12582205

>>12582187
it's not real, but it should be

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:55:52 No.12582201 Report

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>>12582196
You should have just let me believe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:56:57 No.12582205 Report

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>>12582196
It sounds so plausible that I just set my skepticism aside

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:57:35 No.12582207 Report

Quoted By: >>12582216 >>12582238

WHEN IS SN9 FLYING FUCKING DAMNIT
HNNNNNNNG

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:57:48 No.12582209 Report

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>>12582189
Holy kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 21:59:41 No.12582216 Report

Quoted By: >>12582224 >>12582833

>>12582207
Saturday

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:01:19 No.12582223 Report

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>>12582189
Holy kek, I refuse to believe BO is even working on new glenn right now. Fucking useless company lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:01:48 No.12582224 Report

Quoted By: >>12582243 >>12582254

>>12582216
You're delusional if you think they'll launch on Saturday

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:02:01 No.12582225 Report

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>>12581408
I love this vid. Such a cocky bastard and the nagging insecure clingy wife, who deep down probably knew it was doomed even then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:02:25 No.12582226 Report

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>>12582147
The only practical applications it talks about regard misfires and startup charges. It talks about batteries but glosses over the fact that hundreds of MW of input energy also means hundreds of MW of output energy to do those tasks which means hundreds of tons of batteries. Better off keeping the startup charges and instead of dedicating a container ship's worth of drive and batteries just making sure your warheads and automated safeties are secure and reliable to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:03:19 No.12582232 Report

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>>12582189
Brutal. How much more can bozo sustain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:04:22 No.12582238 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582147
Seems cool but almost 500MW of power is so much energy I'm not sure what they'd do with it all if the vessel is civilian.
If it's a military vehicle on the other hand I'd say you could power a LOT of fucking particle guns with that much electricity.
>>12582207
This man is delusional, take him to the infirmary. There's no Starship on the launch pad, there can't be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:04:55 No.12582243 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582224
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:07:50 No.12582254 Report

Quoted By: >>12582263

>>12582224
3 hops in one day!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:09:31 No.12582263 Report

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>>12582254
If you think they'll hop 4 times in one day you're delusional

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:14:54 No.12582278 Report

Quoted By: >>12582280 >>12582286 >>12582289 >>12582359

post your predictions about first:
Starship orbital
Starship return from orbit
manned starship
unmanned starship to mars
manned starship to mars

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:15:57 No.12582280 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582278
2021
2021
2023
2024
2028

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:17:50 No.12582286 Report

Quoted By: >>12582309

>>12582278
>Starship orbital
May 2022
>Starship return from orbit
May 2022
>manned starship
2025
>unmanned starship to mars
2029
>manned starship to mars
2031

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:19:07 No.12582289 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582278
'22
'22
'25
'26
'28

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:23:42 No.12582306 Report

Quoted By: >>12582312

>>12582085
I guess one good thing about this industry is that if you suck it becomes obvious very quickly. The high difficulty makes certain that only the truly skilled will succeed.

Virgin's Spaceshiptwo also reminds me of the space shuttle. In the sense that it has some genuinely cool engineering but behind it all is a fundamentally flawed approach. I think Elon is right in that if something is super hard bordering on impossible then maybe you should rethink your direction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:24:32 No.12582309 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582286
this

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:25:31 No.12582312 Report

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>>12582306
Yeah, it's clear that it's an approach where the engineering designs didn't work out so they pivoted the business model instead of changing the design to fit what they business wanted to be.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:26:19 No.12582316 Report

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>>12582189
I'm fucking dying

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:29:31 No.12582327 Report

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>>12582189
>350827 feet
That's a lot of feet. Is that what they call "legs for days"?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:29:49 No.12582328 Report

Quoted By: >>12582332 >>12582377 >>12582413 >>12582904

>>12582189

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:31:54 No.12582332 Report

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>>12582328

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:36:42 No.12582346 Report

Quoted By: >>12582376 >>12582383

>>12581478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrAdayUh6-4

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:39:29 No.12582357 Report

Quoted By: >>12582362 >>12582370 >>12582399

>raptor plume is a beautiful translucent purple
>BE-4 is your standard fugly yellow
why even use methane if you're going to use it so badly you could mistake it for keralox

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:39:42 No.12582359 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582278
>2022
>2022
>2029
>2033

>>12582189
If Starship does a 100 kilometer hop Bezos should consider suicide

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:40:45 No.12582362 Report

Quoted By: >>12582394

>>12582357
Reminder that BE-4 keeps eating itself when it tries to restart lol. ULA even said they had issues back in August

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:42:23 No.12582370 Report

Quoted By: >>12582382 >>12582473

>>12582357
That's probably the ethane, man BE-4 is going to be a shitbrick, it will be lucky if it even cracks the ISP barrier between Kerosene and Methane, plus with that extra ethane and whatever else is left in the LNG it will probably coke like fuck just like RP-1 engines rendering it completely pointless as a methane engine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:43:44 No.12582376 Report

Quoted By: >>12582383

>>12582346
>fades just before crash
lame. here's the full one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZOXh_GB9sc

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:44:00 No.12582377 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582328
>this project has been in development for ~15 years
Kinda at a loss for words here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:45:02 No.12582382 Report

Quoted By: >>12582395 >>12582398 >>12582410

>>12582370
https://www.reddit.com/r/ula/comments/6znrgt/tory_bruno_ceo_ulalaunch_cdr_for_vulcan_rocket_by/dnmqcno/
I thought the BE-4 uses pure methane that was made from LNG?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:45:01 No.12582383 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582376
>>12582346
hope the g-forces from the launch knocked him out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:46:25 No.12582394 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582362
IIRC ULA claimed to have fixed the problem, although it's equally embarrassing in its own right for ULA, an oldspace org that can't even make its own engines, fix your design for you before you could

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:46:47 No.12582395 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582382
Even worse. Why does their engine suck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:46:54 No.12582398 Report

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>>12582382
Pretty sure the BE-4 uses LNG instead of pure methane like the Raptor. LNG has lots of extra shit in it that changes its burn characteristics.

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:47:15 No.12582399 Report

Quoted By: >>12582434

>>12582357
vs

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:49:19 No.12582410 Report

Quoted By: >>12582447 >>12583237

>>12582382
If it did use pure methane the plume would be semi-transparent, like Raptors. It's full of filth and wasted hydrocarbons though, so it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:50:03 No.12582413 Report

Quoted By: >>12582457 >>12582751

>>12582328
Has any reporter with clout asked Bezos why New Shepard development has been slow and why hasn't it carried people yet?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:54:19 No.12582434 Report

Quoted By: >>12582478 >>12582485

>>12582399

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 22:58:42 No.12582447 Report

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>>12582410
I would suspect it to be down to fuel cycle moreso than LNG vs Methane. All of the exhaust from Raptor should be reacted, BE4 should have some colder unreacted products

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:01:22 No.12582457 Report

Quoted By: >>12582490

>>12582413
They have but after asking they commit suicide a few days later from five gunshots to the head

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:03:45 No.12582460 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582166
pls be real

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:07:50 No.12582473 Report

Quoted By: >>12582904

>>12582370
>lus with that extra ethane and whatever else is left in the LNG it will probably coke like fuck just like RP-1
if they really are just using straight LNG their insistence on an ox-rich cycle makes a lot more sense.

And yeah, everywhere I look says "LNG" whereas raptor always says methane or methalox.

But why? Is it really so much more work to turn LNG into pure methane?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:09:23 No.12582478 Report

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>>12582434
looks like a purple-tinted SSME

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:11:16 No.12582485 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582434
>better than an RS25
>cheaper than an RS25
>more reusable than an RS25
>isn't the RS25
Fuck aerojet

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:11:40 No.12582487 Report

Quoted By: >>12582493

there were some cool frame from spacex's under-pad SN8 cam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:12:05 No.12582490 Report

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>>12582457
You joke, but someone with fanfare seriously needs to ask some razor sharp questions about Blue Origin and how dedicated they really are about this space business. I get that not all companies and agencies can't sprint like SpaceX, but there is a difference between not burning your employees and taking a decade and a half to man-rate a hopper

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:12:42 No.12582493 Report

Quoted By: >>12582499

>>12582487
you could see the staggered ignitions, too

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:12:41 No.12582494 Report

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:14:00 No.12582499 Report

Quoted By: >>12582506

>>12582493

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:14:26 No.12582501 Report

Quoted By: >>12582505 >>12582512

>>12582494
I would move there and live in an airstream even if it meant just mowing all the grass or mopping the floors

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:15:01 No.12582504 Report

Quoted By: >>12582513 >>12582514

Sorry to break it to you, but the SSME had the best plume of ALL TIME

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:15:10 No.12582505 Report

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>>12582501
Same, someone's gotta do the dishes right? Put me in coach I'll bring my own tent.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:15:15 No.12582506 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582499

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:16:51 No.12582512 Report

Quoted By: >>12582564

>>12582501
https://www.spacex.com/careers/?department=&location=Brownsville%252C%2520TX%252C%2520United%2520States

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:17:07 No.12582513 Report

Quoted By: >>12582521 >>12582573 >>12582676

>>12582504
The RS-25 is still an excellent engine despite the fuel type, oldpsace engineering, and the cuckbox

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:17:29 No.12582514 Report

Quoted By: >>12582523

>>12582504
if the by-product is water shouldn't there be a bunch of steam coming out of the engine bell?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:18:59 No.12582521 Report

Quoted By: >>12582526 >>12582543 >>12582545

>>12582513
If you told me those boxes were single-use I would believe you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:19:42 No.12582523 Report

Quoted By: >>12582676

>>12582514
Steam turns clear when superheated. In addition to that, the exhaust is not pure steam. The RS-25 runs fuel-rich to boost efficiency

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:20:11 No.12582526 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582521
Audible kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:21:58 No.12582537 Report

Quoted By: >>12582546

>>12581458
I'm sure the CIA invented that flat earth garbage. There's no way it came organically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:24:16 No.12582543 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582521
>He doesn't know

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:24:57 No.12582545 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582521
Those boxes are most likely reusable but cost just as much as the engines they carry and require refurbishment of the weather-stripping after every opening

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:25:21 No.12582546 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582537
It started as a joke by some people lampooning creationists then it became it's own sort of spin off conspiracy grifter movement of extreme skepticism. Serves the same psychological purpose of any ideology or cult it just happens to be very silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:30:28 No.12582564 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582512
Fucking ITAR man. I'm not a chink pls let me weld starships.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:31:43 No.12582572 Report

Quoted By: >>12582576 >>12582658

Ok so can starship go down to 2mm thin steel? 1mm?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:32:02 No.12582573 Report

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>>12582513

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:33:10 No.12582576 Report

Quoted By: >>12582593 >>12582634

>>12582572
Why? Do you want this to happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:39:37 No.12582593 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582576
What I want isnt important

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:51:09 No.12582634 Report

Quoted By: >>12582645 >>12582662

>>12582576
When I learned that Atlas wet-workshop stations were proposed and discarded I became mad 60 years after the fact. That would have been SO COOL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:51:30 No.12582636 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582147
>what if we used nuclear blasts to turn a crank shaft for 2 seconds every blast

For
What purpose?

So he brings up the initial issue of wasting the nuclear blasts and ignores the obvious solution of SCALE EVERYTHING UP 100x ! Pulse unit costs stay the same after all

Some sort of ridiculous blog post about stealing thrust from your engine to provide electrical power.. but you are only thrusting for a few minutes in a flight of months

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:55:23 No.12582643 Report

Quoted By: >>12582727 >>12582742

>>12581134
Eminem has the most sales of any US musical artist ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:56:25 No.12582644 Report

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>>12581151
Someone make him into a Pepe

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:57:19 No.12582645 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582634
NASA is allergic to wet workshops or anything useful

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:57:25 No.12582648 Report

Quoted By: >>12582676

>>12581458
Real flat earthers exist my brother is one of them. He even has a flat earth map on the wall in his son’s room, and a bunch of other conspiracy books in his house

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:58:41 No.12582652 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581363
>splashdown
meh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 Jan 2021 23:59:49 No.12582658 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582572
pretty sure elon said that some areas might be <2mm. They're eventually going to optimize it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:01:03 No.12582662 Report

Quoted By: >>12582704

>>12582634
wonder if we'll see Starship wet-workshops. That would be a FUCKTON of space

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:07:12 No.12582676 Report

Quoted By: >>12582684 >>12582697 >>12582716

>>12582523
>Steam turns clear when superheated
cool, didn't know that

>In addition to that, the exhaust is not pure steam. The RS-25 runs fuel-rich to boost efficiency
ah, I see. I remember Hullo mentioning that the lighter the exit molecules the better, and of course you can't get lighter than hydrogen. Pretty cool how deliberately NOT burning some of it is superior.

>>12582513
that really is a hefty upper portion good lord. It's wider than the bell and the RS-25 has a bigass bell

>>12582648
why? It's clearly not a logic thing but rather these people are getting something out of it. But what? Is it in part of our catastrophically low faith in ruling institutions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:09:10 No.12582684 Report

Quoted By: >>12582746

>>12582676
It needs a fat turbopump to move all that h*dro/LOX.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:11:05 No.12582690 Report

Quoted By: >>12582705 >>12582732 >>12582768

>>12581178
There's talks that New Armstrong isn't really a ship at all and it may just be a habitat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:12:08 No.12582697 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582676
>It's clearly not a logic thing but rather these people are getting something out of it. But what?
"People whom I don't like are laughing at me for saying this so it must be true."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:13:43 No.12582704 Report

Quoted By: >>12582764 >>12582768

>>12582662
Sure but a single Starship could launch 1000 modules. Gotta get your mind out of the "minimum number of launches to a achieve a goal" rut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:14:00 No.12582705 Report

Quoted By: >>12582710

>>12582690
If the next big project BO announces is not a fully reusable Starship-tier competitor, they are unironically finished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:16:10 No.12582710 Report

Quoted By: >>12582718

>>12582705
Trust me it’ll be a Starship competitor, but it’ll fly NET 2027

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:17:07 No.12582716 Report

Quoted By: >>12582773

>>12582676
>why? It's clearly not a logic thing but rather these people are getting something out of it. But what? Is it in part of our catastrophically low faith in ruling institutions?
Human society is fundamentally built on the concept of inherent trust in some way. Some people fail to understand this concept and end up just seeing potential distrust everywhere. Some of those people end up believing all sorts of conspiracy theories because those theories fit their world view of inherent distrust in anything that isn't immediately verifiable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:17:57 No.12582718 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582710
The unfortunate thing is that's incredibly optimistic. New Glenn has been in development for as long as F9 has been flying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:20:47 No.12582727 Report

Quoted By: >>12582783

>>12582643
I haven't thought about that guy since like 2006.
Is his daughter legal now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:21:39 No.12582732 Report

Quoted By: >>12582753 >>12582770

>>12582690
Is New Armstrong even a real idea from Blue Origin or is it just made up by space flight fan speculators?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:23:02 No.12582742 Report

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>>12582643
I very much doubt eminem is anywhere close to Michael Jackson

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:23:45 No.12582746 Report

Quoted By: >>12582765 >>12582780

>>12582684
BE-4 also has a fat pipe

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:24:17 No.12582751 Report

Quoted By: >>12582793 >>12582806

>>12582413
Has any reporter ever asked Bezos anything about BO? Fucking Tory Bruno is a better spokesman for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:24:45 No.12582753 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582732
NA is a real thing planned by BO. Bozos has talked about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:26:57 No.12582764 Report

Quoted By: >>12582771

>>12582704
Starships could loft enough prefabbed modules for a spin gravity station.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:27:05 No.12582765 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582746
>the length
>the girth
>the curve

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:28:39 No.12582768 Report

Quoted By: >>12582866

>>12582704
>Gotta get your mind out of the "minimum number of launches to a achieve a goal" rut.
if Starship really is only a few million per launch then you're right. The containing factor would no longer be launch expense

>>12582690
habitat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:29:18 No.12582770 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582732
I've read rumors on NSF forums that NA doesn't exist in any capacity. And I'd believe it: even with BO being as secretive as they are, I'd think something would've come out about it in the last few years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:29:24 No.12582771 Report

Quoted By: >>12582778

>>12582764
>spin stations
oldspace would lose their shit if someone cheaply makes one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:29:49 No.12582773 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582716
Reminder that the very term conspiracy theory was invented by intelligence agencies to discredit their shady as fuck activities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:30:49 No.12582778 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582771
And then someone can strap some methalox tankage and a couple Vacuum Raptors to one end and move it up to L2 to dab on Gateway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:31:14 No.12582780 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582746
You need a big pipe to move a lot of mass if your chamber pressure is shit I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:33:11 No.12582783 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582727
all three of em 8^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:36:39 No.12582793 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582751
>interviewing Jeff Bezos
>there's a question about BO in your notes
>wtf, isn't BO the Jeff Who guy?
>discard it, it must have gotten mixed up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:41:15 No.12582806 Report

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>>12582751
anyone that ever "interviews" jeff bezos is usually only there to cradle his balls and stroke his shaft. maddening when you have elon taking on real shit and being asked more hardhitting stuff. bezos just cruises through without anyone ever asking him real shit. the dude is terrified of people realizing his ineptitude. he literally calls spaceflight his "calling" when he understands it as well as your average redditor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:43:11 No.12582815 Report

Quoted By: >>12582847 >>12582849

Just watched body odours latest suborbital launch.

>That landing burn

Legit thought it was about to tip over and crash, barely even made it onto the pad. Absolute fucking state.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:49:58 No.12582833 Report

Quoted By: >>12582838 >>12582843

>>12582060
>>12582216
Source for SN9 hopping on Saturday?

For some reason nextspaceflight.com seems to have got rid of SN9 altogether after listing it previously

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:50:54 No.12582834 Report

Quoted By: >>12582838

NET Monday for SN9

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:51:46 No.12582838 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582833
>>12582834
We got too delusional...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:53:00 No.12582843 Report

Quoted By: >>12582914

>>12582833
It's listed as "NET January 2021", and I don't see anything indicating an indefinite delay, so I imagine the guy running it just got tired of pushing it back one day every day and is waiting for actual confirmation before listing a date.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:53:01 No.12582844 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581111
and they would have made it by now, if the founder hadn't gone all James Bond villain and killed a journalist in their personal submarine.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:54:36 No.12582847 Report

Quoted By: >>12582849 >>12582850 >>12582858

>>12582815
same

>>12581288
>>12581269
>>12581347
the over-correction cycle on landing was pretty bad. Got to around a 20 degree lean before it fixed itself. It also barely made it back on the pad and took out a camera in the process. It didn't eat shit but they've still got some refining to do

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:56:04 No.12582849 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582815
>>12582847
>15 years of development

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:56:06 No.12582850 Report

Quoted By: >>12582861 >>12582869

>>12582847
they're blaming ot on the wind lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 00:59:33 No.12582855 Report

Quoted By: >>12582876

Jeffrey Whomst

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:00:28 No.12582858 Report

Quoted By: >>12582870 >>12582871

>>12582847
Honestly it’s bizarre that this launch went so weirdly. They’ve had a perfect landing record and then today it almost eats shit. Strange.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:01:50 No.12582861 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582850
>wind is moving at walking speed judging by the plume
F9 is known for being a weather queen and lands better on a shaky barge on the waves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:02:44 No.12582866 Report

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>>12582768
Orbital habitat.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:03:00 No.12582869 Report

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>>12582850
Rockets need to handle the wind or they'll never bring down turnaround time waiting for calm skies. If monkeys can land planes in huge crosswinds, computers should be able to handle it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:03:06 No.12582870 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582858
>perfect
It left a crater in the desert but they scrapped the footage so barely anyone knows about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:03:10 No.12582871 Report

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>>12582858
It's nervous.

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:04:09 No.12582874 Report

Quoted By: >>12582880 >>12582883

>blue urine sends people to "space"
>market it as first commercial astronauts even though that's a lie
>spacex sends private astronauts to orbit a few months later
>jeff bozo hits em again
>welcometotheclub2.0.jpeg

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:06:31 No.12582876 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582855
F O U S T

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:09:06 No.12582880 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582874
I can’t believe that the orbital Dragon V2, which first flew in 2019, beat the suborbital New Shepard Capsule (it doesn’t even have a name lol fags), which first flew in 2015

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:09:59 No.12582883 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582874
>Scaled Composites won the $10 million X Prize in October 2004 with SpaceShipOne, as the first private company to reach and surpass an altitude of 100 km (62 mi) twice within two weeks.
OH NO NO NO JEFF!?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:11:02 No.12582888 Report

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New thread:
>>12582882
>>12582882
>>12582882

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Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:14:35 No.12582904 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582166
>>12582189
>>12582328
kekkleplex

>>12582473
>Is it really so much more work to turn LNG into pure methane?
I guess you would just have to distill when liquefying it. Methane should condense at a different temperature.
- methane boiling point 111.6 K
- ethane boiling point 184.6 K
So in that case you could take it down to like 120k, throw out all the wet stuff, then continue chilling. It depends on if anything has a lower boiling point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:16:40 No.12582914 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582843
Oh yeah you're right, I found it after scrolling a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 01:41:51 No.12583005 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581962
german contractors actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 02:26:33 No.12583154 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581595
They aren't F-1Bs, they clearly have a hydrolox plume and also are using two hydrolox Shuttle ETs. I think they're supposed to be RS-83 engines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 02:32:01 No.12583177 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581945
They spent literal years trying to get that piece of shit digging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 02:35:47 No.12583192 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581983
whoa there anon that sounds risky, better take things a bit slower and have some meetings over the next decade to assess feasibility

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 02:47:13 No.12583237 Report

Quoted By:

>>12582410
You're forgetting that BE-4 and Raptor don't use the same combustion cycle. FFSC is super clean. ORSC not so much. The issue is that in ORSC the fuel is pumped in as a cold liquid, which hurt mixture rate and therefore lowers combustion efficiency. This manifests as unburned, glowing carbon in the plume. FFSC has gas-gas mixing which means no carbon in the exhaust.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 Jan 2021 03:40:49 No.12583384 Report

Quoted By:

>>12581496
Not for notoriety, he received lots of donations to build those "rockets". More than it cost him to build them.

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