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/sfg/ - Space Flight General: Martian Just Chillin' Edition

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 06:36:04 2021 No.12560971 View Reply Original Report

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We out here jus' chillin'

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:37:53 No.12560976 Report

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Paraterraforming gang claiming first post

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:39:03 No.12560981 Report

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I can't believe the future of space travel looks like a water tower that is crudely made from the junkyard.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:39:19 No.12560983 Report

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>>12560971
second for stage-and-a-half

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:39:50 No.12560985 Report

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Will Virgin Orbit work or will they be picking up pieces of 747 from the Mojave next week?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:40:28 No.12560987 Report

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Force-terraform every body in the solar system, no matter the cost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:40:36 No.12560988 Report

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>>12560981
They'll look a lot nicer once the tiles are on them, as for the boosters, yeah, the future is shiny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:41:24 No.12560991 Report

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Remember, mars fines are actually not a hazard even in the slightest and any statement to the contrary is baseless FUD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:41:26 No.12560992 Report

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>>12560987
How do we terraform the Sun?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:42:09 No.12560995 Report

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>>12560987
Terraformers are the insidious eternal urfer given form. Remember to bomb your local terraforming project!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:43:13 No.12560999 Report

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>>12560985
It’s an incredibly stupid design that gives zero chance of an engine abort before launch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:43:28 No.12561000 Report

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>>12560987
>Terraform the trillions of comets in the Oort cloud

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:44:06 No.12561001 Report

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>>12560992
Enclose it in a shell. Populate the shell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:44:22 No.12561002 Report

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>>12560991
> rips lungs to shreds
>*hack* *coughs up blood*
> baseless red propaganda, breathe in that fresh martian air fellow greens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:45:21 No.12561003 Report

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>>12561000
If you don't you're gay

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:46:50 No.12561006 Report

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>>12560971
Hear me out. “Manned Recon Starships.” Discuss.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:47:57 No.12561009 Report

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>>12560988
they'll improve the surface finish by finished product but for now it makes zero difference to the prototypes.

Also checked hitler dubs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:48:47 No.12561011 Report

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>>12560987
Yes please.
>>12561000
We'll steal the oort clouds of other systems to make a million Earth cloud in ours.
Speaking of many things- could six Earths be placed around the Sun in a chain formation in each others' L4 and L5 points?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:49:00 No.12561013 Report

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>>12561006
Reconning what? An AA missile in the face? Instant nuclear reprisal for launching an unknown ballistic vehicle into another nations territory?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:49:11 No.12561015 Report

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>>12561006
>tfw yuo will never be a mech-enhanced spec ops supersoldier being precision inserted to the other side of the planet in 20 minutes

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:51:14 No.12561020 Report

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>>12561013
How about if it just sits in LEO and carries dozens of marines to assault a Chinese Station?

>>12561015
Based but Starship is a fat fuck who would get shot out of the sky in a second

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:52:25 No.12561023 Report

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>>12561006
Wouldn't be a bad ISR platform in orbit.
But such programs are already in development, and will be able to operate at a much cheaper cost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:53:46 No.12561024 Report

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>>12561020
>assault chinese space station
Deploy an autonomous vehicle, grab it roughly and fire an SRB to deorbot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:54:22 No.12561026 Report

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>>12561020
>How about if it just sits in LEO and carries dozens of marines to assault a Chinese Station?
>Deploying meatbags to physically board a station

Absolutely retarded, no orbital fight is going to result with anything less than the enemy being a cloud of shrapnel so better make sure your dudes aren't on board their station or in fact any vessel in conflict. Meatbags are fucking useless in space battles except as overall command.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:55:33 No.12561031 Report

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>>12561020
A USAF Starship wouldn’t use that logo on the vehicle. It’d have the standard roundel.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 06:57:06 No.12561035 Report

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>>12561024
Sensible but kinda boring I’m talking about “Space Force Marines we must retrieve the black box of Ching Chong station.”
>Half a dozen Starships approach the station
>Ching Chong fires CWS which tears open the USSF Endurance, destroying it immediately
>USSF Rocinante opens its cargo bay and deploys two platoons of Marines in EVA suits
>USSF Requiem is hit in its oxygen tank by a high explosive shell. Is detonates killing all on board.
>Marines breach the station and recover the black box

>>12561023
Yeah but Starship looks cool though. I’m not memeing either it looks badass and it’s imposing as fuck

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:00:12 No.12561042 Report

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I swear to god if someone breaches the perimeter again on launch I will kill someone

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:00:17 No.12561043 Report

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>>12561031
You mean this?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:00:22 No.12561044 Report

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>>12561026
Coast Guard style actions end with boarding and ramming all the time. Not everything is a shooting war.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:02:24 No.12561049 Report

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>>12561044
Also blasting someone away isn’t always a good thing especially with space debris or having to retrieve delicate cargo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:02:29 No.12561050 Report

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>>12561043
Yes.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:03:32 No.12561052 Report

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>>12561049
>blasting someone away isn’t always a good thing
Go back to Woodstock, hippie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:04:18 No.12561053 Report

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>>12561044
Coast guard actions aren't against armed foreign military vessels. If they were the results would be pretty fucking different. Even then, some rogue trader who has a little machine gun could make a fucking mess of as many starships as goes near it, they are so fragile and prone to exploding.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:04:42 No.12561056 Report

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>>12561052
>Dude what if we turned a giant gun into a spaceship!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:07:35 No.12561059 Report

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>>12561056
>Unidentified vessel surrender immediately, this is the USS Netenyahu with the US space force
>Unidentified vessel turns with malicious intent

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:10:18 No.12561064 Report

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>>12561056
>Gemini capsule
Wait, is this thing supposed to be manned? Why the fuck is it manned?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:16:51 No.12561072 Report

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>>12561050
Better?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:17:04 No.12561074 Report

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>>12561064
>He doesn't want to fly on a 5 inch nuclear artillery gun strapped to a stack of SRBs

ngmi

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:17:05 No.12561075 Report

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>>12561044
Even battles at sea are moving more and more towards unmanned shit and smart missiles.
If you can launch 8 of pic related from a single ultra fast skjold class corvette linked up to one another that does random maneuvers and terminal bunts, your boat full of able seamen are fucked no matter what.

Those corvettes are stealth and have a top speed of 60 knots by the way. War is not the same anymore, if you're in space, you're not bringing out the fucking boarding axes either.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:19:11 No.12561077 Report

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>>12561072
Definitely. They’d probably use the low-vis version of the roundel, but the full color looks way nicer with the blue.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:19:38 No.12561079 Report

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>>12561075
Okay, but if you're strongly suggesting a fishing vessel fuck off out of your waters, you don't send missiles. Likewise, not every conflict in orbit is best resolved with blowing the target up. Seizing it, or even boarding it for inspection, is always an alternative.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:21:59 No.12561086 Report

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>>12561064
>He doesn’t want to pilot a nuclear launching platform
Heh...get a load of this guy

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:23:31 No.12561087 Report

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>>12561075
Ok but on the contrary many ships have anti-missile capabilities.
>Pic related

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:24:36 No.12561089 Report

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>>12561087
You do know that's not a normal missile, right? Good luck shooting it down. There's a reason the US bought it over their own shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:25:32 No.12561091 Report

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>>12561087
They’re replacing the CIWS systems on most ships with RAM or Sea Sparrows these days. Guns aren’t seen as a particularly reliable option in the face of modern threats.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:25:41 No.12561092 Report

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>>12561079
Realistically that is never going to happen, at least for a very long time. Boats are not spacecraft. Spacecraft are and will remain expensive enough to operate that all flight plans and cargo loading procedures will be followed exactingly. If you try to board another countries vessel then expect violent retaliation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:26:24 No.12561093 Report

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>>12561092
Could an EMP disable an enemy warship?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:27:50 No.12561098 Report

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>>12561093
No, probably not. The effects of EMPs on things that aren’t large pieces of infrastructure with hundreds of miles of wire are often overstated.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:28:23 No.12561100 Report

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>>12561093
Everything these days and for quite a while in the past has been EMP proof, it's actually not very hard to do and any space warships will absolutely be shielded.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:31:32 No.12561106 Report

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>>12561100
>>12561098
>Bro’s....please tell me close quarters warship combat is possible....I want to believe....
Just kidding but seriously though wtf so there’s no CQB in space? That’s super anti climactic

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:40:09 No.12561117 Report

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>>12561106
There could be circumstances where CQB is a thing, say you were trying to seize an immensely valuable asset that neither side was willing to scuttle, however that kind of operation would be exceedingly rare. For the most part, no. Realistic space battles will be somewhat analogous to submarine warfare, involving ships light seconds/minutes apart that have the most advanced heat storing and light absorption systems available to minimise their signature beyond the enemies passive detection capabilities, dropping delayed activation smart missiles towards where they think the enemy is.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:52:17 No.12561133 Report

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>>12561106
The guns in the show are super slow firing compared to real world CIWS, if they were really rotary cannons then both of those ships would just shiver and fly apart into clouds of debris as soon as they opened fire on each-other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 07:55:21 No.12561138 Report

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>>12561133
>The guns in the show are super slow firing compared to real world CIWS
Or only every fifth shot is a trac–

Wait, how the fuck are tracers burning in space? IMMERSION RUINED

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:01:06 No.12561144 Report

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Apollo (17) picture of the day

Magazine 147/A (Color) Rev 12, EVA-1 / AS17-147-22465
>Gene took this photo on the orbit before final descent. On the final approach, Gene flew Challenger down over the Sculptured Hills (low, knobby hills in sunlight just right of frame center) and out over the valley floor before landing a little north of the Trident group of craters. The CSM with Ron Evans can be seen in the left distance with the South Massif in the background. Henry is the furthermost of the three largish craters at the foot of the North Massif to the right.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:09:24 No.12561155 Report

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>>12560992
>>12561001
Dyson Sphere/Swarm

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:16:31 No.12561168 Report

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>>12560992
>>12561001
>>12561155
No, you dumbasses, turn it into a neutron star and just pave it over. Boom. Connecticut-sized celestial body with a non jello baby level of gravity.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:25:51 No.12561181 Report

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>>12561144
a17 was something else

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:29:43 No.12561184 Report

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>>12561117
And then 4ASS goes cruising by blasting astrobeat leaving everyone on both sides sensor-blind for an hour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYPqpjN8GgE

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:33:21 No.12561186 Report

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>>12561184
>Deploy the electronic warfare drones

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:44:37 No.12561195 Report

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I had some shower thoughts on what could make a Starfury work, and it's surprisingly feasible given the stuff /sfg/ talks about.
>compact molten-salt fission reactors
>finally figuring out what the hell makes HDLT plasma physics work and scaling it up to 100kN+
>water propellant is super duper volume efficient at 1000kg/m^3
>strapping a cockpit to an overpowered undersized spacecraft in general
Really the only thing I can't figure out a tech-tree route for is the weapons. FTL is a non factor since in-setting they communicate with the jumpgate over regular RF and ships don't need any special equipment to survive once inside hyperspace.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:47:15 No.12561200 Report

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>>12561013
kek

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:48:53 No.12561201 Report

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>>12561195
You need to read about a little hiccup called waste heat

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:54:49 No.12561209 Report

Quoted By: >>12561212 >>12561218 >>12561234 >>12561238

My question is this.
During launch of starship, presumably with near capacity passengers aboard, will they sitting in like, airplane style rows for launch? Or will the living quarters be fitted with seats facing the proper direction for launch?

Are there going to be incidents of people trying to fuck during launch in case of the latter?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:55:51 No.12561212 Report

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>>12561209
You mean a colony ship? I assume they'd just be strapped into their beds for launch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:56:27 No.12561214 Report

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>>12560971
When do you think will be SN9's flight?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:58:52 No.12561216 Report

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>>12561212
Yeah. I just wonder if there would be space to include a proper sitting (or strapped-in) position for everybody onboard, or how they would go about that.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 08:59:36 No.12561218 Report

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>>12561209
Mass transport such as E2E or to a LEO space station will be 800+ seats fitted in rows to suit launch and landing directions. Colonisation ships to Mars will have individual cabins that fit a gimballed crash couch that breaks down into a bed for the duration.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:00:52 No.12561220 Report

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>>12561218
>gimballed crash couch
Okay, NOW I'm hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:05:34 No.12561226 Report

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>>12561220
Thinking about it, actually all passenger types would need gimballed crash couches since the g force is experienced in different directions for launch and re entry. I guess you could have a dual mode seat that you would unbolt and rebolt depending on what maneuver the ship will be doing next but that opens up a liability issue so probably a one size fits all gimballed couch will be developed is my guess.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:07:59 No.12561231 Report

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>>12561226
That's how they're going to deal with the g-forces encountered during the land maneuver then? I can't think of any other way

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:08:57 No.12561234 Report

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>>12561209
>>12561218
>>12561226
>Thunderbird-1 style rotating chairs

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:10:49 No.12561237 Report

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>>12561214
13

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:11:25 No.12561238 Report

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>>12561209
We simply dont know until they show us their concept for the insides.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:12:41 No.12561240 Report

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>>12561231
The g force during the flip and burn for the landing is fairly negligible and goes on for less than a minute so that's not really the issue. It's more the g force pulled during the belly flop where the vehicle experiences the longest and largest deceleration from orbital velocity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:16:15 No.12561247 Report

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>>12561184
???????

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:16:47 No.12561248 Report

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>>12561240
Ah that makes sense. If these launches are frequent enough that the experience is pedestrian I could only imagine what people may attempt to do during launches/landing.. maybe I'm just being cynical

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:19:40 No.12561253 Report

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Niggers you don't need gimballed couches, you only experience significant gee in two directions. Refer to my over 9000 hours in mspaint drawing.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:22:34 No.12561258 Report

Quoted By: >>12562759

Thud Octaweb is the ultimate KSP engine config

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:27:47 No.12561266 Report

Quoted By: >>12561270

>>12561253
So what then. Hydraulic couches? They change seats midway through landing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:29:52 No.12561270 Report

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>>12561266
The couches haven't changed position anon, can't you manipulate 3d objects in your mind?....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:33:57 No.12561278 Report

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>>12561270
So then they're upside down during the bellyflop?
Improve your artwork before you try and get snippy with me, buster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:35:37 No.12561280 Report

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>>12561278
No they will be spinning to generate their of G-force the negate the ships

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:36:39 No.12561283 Report

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>>12561278
Do you understand now?

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:37:02 No.12561284 Report

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>>12560985
They should buy the stratolaunch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:38:56 No.12561286 Report

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>>12560981
I can't believe the future of space travel is being cut up and thrown in the junkyard to make way for the hot new thing (a shinier version of itself)
we live in a society

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:39:46 No.12561289 Report

Quoted By: >>12561297

>>12561283
Yes
You may be oversimplifying the forces present during reentry tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:40:56 No.12561291 Report

Quoted By: >>12561297

>>12561283
the arrow on the right makes no sense and there are no stick figures to show what positioning the passengers are supposed to be in. Maybe spend 10,000 hours next time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:43:38 No.12561297 Report

Quoted By: >>12561302 >>12561304

>>12561289
It's close enough to make no difference, there may be forces applied forward or backward of the seat during re entry, but not significant enough to be worried about.

>>12561291
Are you fucking retarded? They are sitting in the seat in both examples like your fat ass is sitting on your greasy gamer chair right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:46:53 No.12561302 Report

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>>12561297
Neat. I'm sorry for criticizing your artwork anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:47:43 No.12561304 Report

Quoted By: >>12561308

>>12561297
I don't usually sit in the fetal position or standing up on the chair either. No idea what the Ls are supposed to be representing

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:47:49 No.12561305 Report

Quoted By: >>12561314

>>12561283
reentry is at 70 degrees instead of 90 degrees, there's a significant element of lift too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:48:51 No.12561308 Report

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>>12561304
L is a chair
retard

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:51:08 No.12561312 Report

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>>12561308
Weird chair man. Is the short side a footrest or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:51:34 No.12561313 Report

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>>12561312
draw a chair for me please

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:51:54 No.12561314 Report

Quoted By: >>12561320

>>12561305
I used 90 degrees for the mentally impaired, clearly that hasn't made things better for the terminally autistic. Whatever angle you change it to doesn't change the g force direction of force applied against the craft, as far as lift goes, sure you will get some which will be relieving the main force in the opposite direction and possibly applying some directly against the chair. It's not significant enough to worry about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:54:02 No.12561319 Report

Quoted By: >>12561347

>>12561312
>why isn't your two minute mspaint shit drawing visually perfect

take your meds you autistic fuck

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:54:15 No.12561320 Report

Quoted By: >>12561328

>>12561314
agreed, although I independently reached a similar but different conclusion as you
I think it's better to have your back to windward so you're laying down during the high-g reentry and then sitting down for the landing burn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:55:39 No.12561322 Report

Quoted By: >>12561323 >>12561326 >>12561333

Redpill me on mini starship

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:55:58 No.12561323 Report

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>>12561322
It's pointless now that SN8 bellyflopped correctly.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:57:23 No.12561326 Report

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>>12561322
it's smol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:58:15 No.12561328 Report

Quoted By: >>12561331 >>12561338 >>12561341

>>12561320
I thought launch was the more significant gee force which is why I angled them that way, the flip and landing burn is short enough to be who cares which way you are facing so long as you are strapped in.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:58:39 No.12561330 Report

Quoted By: >>12561339

I wanna know more about this chair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:59:27 No.12561331 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561328
hmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 09:59:49 No.12561333 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561322
One of Zubrins most retarded ideas, surprising given his history of extremely cool and practical oldspace btfo ideas. Just pretend it doesn't exist unless you want to post memes about Zubrins "mini starhip" if you get my meaning.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:01:08 No.12561338 Report

Quoted By: >>12561411

>>12561328

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:01:15 No.12561339 Report

Quoted By: >>12561355

>>12561330
it's very kampfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:02:50 No.12561341 Report

Quoted By: >>12561359 >>12561389

>>12561328
okay so hear me out here
what if we strung everybody up in hammocks running from port to starboard so they were free to pivot from hanging towards windward to hanging aft

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:04:05 No.12561347 Report

Quoted By: >>12561359

>>12561319
who said anything about visual perfection? there was a discussion about airline-type seating vs passengers being strapped to their beds. when you draw a line with the bottom basically flush to the outer walls i'm assuming you're depicting the latter, no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:06:45 No.12561350 Report

Quoted By:

SpaceX have just swapped from 304L to 308 stainless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:07:45 No.12561355 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561339
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:09:00 No.12561359 Report

Quoted By: >>12561362 >>12561375

>>12561341
This was my first thought and still my favourite idea, low weight and great on space, probably needs a semi rigid member along the spinal axis so you don't form a u shape and break in half. Not great for convincing passengers and safety authorities though so probably won't fly for a while at least.

>>12561347
Stop being autistic you stupid cunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:09:46 No.12561362 Report

Quoted By: >>12561369

>>12561359
comfy space hammocks though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:12:13 No.12561369 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561362
Like I said I agree and think it's the optimal solution, especially for colonisation ships where you spend up to half a year or whatever in zero g, a strap in hammock is perfect. But you gotta convince people your hawaiian chill hammock is safe for atmospheric re entry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:18:10 No.12561374 Report

Quoted By: >>12562226 >>12562499

>new zubby interview dropped today
This new Zubrin interview is really great, first one since the SN8 flight. He had some based things to say, like shitting on NASA's planetary science pussies reeling about landing big payloads on mars. lots of based takes all around
https://youtu.be/UVC8zwZD5gs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:18:12 No.12561375 Report

Quoted By: >>12561381

>>12561359
>probably needs a semi rigid member
Just have the women get the top bunks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:20:13 No.12561381 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561375
which top, there are two of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:24:06 No.12561389 Report

Quoted By: >>12561398

>>12561341
>hammock flip maneuver

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:26:48 No.12561398 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561389
no lie I once fell asleep hanging out of an inverted hammock

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:32:52 No.12561408 Report

Quoted By: >>12561414

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:33:58 No.12561411 Report

Quoted By: >>12561418

>>12561338
what is this frog looking at

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:34:03 No.12561412 Report

Quoted By:

>>12560981
you have to start with something... prototypes are rarely good looking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:35:04 No.12561413 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561000
some nice uranium reactors in orbit that beam down their output with high gain microwave or lasers and it's done

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:35:31 No.12561414 Report

Quoted By: >>12561772

>>12561408

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:37:15 No.12561416 Report

Quoted By: >>12561417

>>12560981
I can't believe we waited so long before understanding that is the right way to access space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:37:55 No.12561417 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561416
no, we always knew, we just didn't want to believe (due to JOBS)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:37:58 No.12561418 Report

Quoted By: >>12561419 >>12561422

>>12561411
dum people

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:39:19 No.12561419 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561418
kys retard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:40:20 No.12561422 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561418
that frog is looking in a mirror

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:42:41 No.12561427 Report

Quoted By: >>12561446 >>12561457 >>12561505 >>12561523

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:50:08 No.12561441 Report

Quoted By: >>12561444 >>12561445

can someone update this with SN8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:51:55 No.12561444 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561441
Kino picture. I know Starship is mostly propellant and Roci is mostly crew space but it’s crazy to think that we have build a true spaceship slightly bigger than Roci

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:52:21 No.12561445 Report

Quoted By: >>12561447

>>12561441
its the same size, do it yourself you lazy cunt.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:52:58 No.12561446 Report

Quoted By: >>12561449

>>12561427
Is this from NSF?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:52:58 No.12561447 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561445
SN8/9 is actually 5m longer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:54:13 No.12561449 Report

Quoted By: >>12561523

>>12561446
yeah, NASA HSF Moon subforum

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 10:57:01 No.12561457 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561427
Man... I'd love to know who posted this trash so I can laugh at them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 11:03:14 No.12561470 Report

Quoted By:

>>12560971
If you wanna have fun, read the comments on SpaceX’s newest launch webcast. The ones in broken English where people get mad at each other are funny as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 11:20:52 No.12561505 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561427
This is spicy bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 11:22:08 No.12561510 Report

Quoted By: >>12561526

>>12561013
thats why transcom wants to put anti missile and anti air turrets on starship

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 11:26:41 No.12561523 Report

Quoted By: >>12561644

>>12561449
>>12561427
>SpaceX isn't going to mars because they don't have enough money but NASA will be going to mars with less money then SpaceX
how can one man be so retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 11:28:12 No.12561526 Report

Quoted By: >>12561542 >>12561596

>>12561510
You're still getting nuked if you drop that in the airspace of anyone who is nuclear capable. If they aren't nuclear capable then why even bother, just do the standard American tactic of embargos, then bombing and droning civilian villages and then giving up when you realise the entire civilian population wants to kill you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 11:37:18 No.12561542 Report

Quoted By: >>12561548

>>12561526
i don't know man, its the US transcom's idea, not me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 11:40:48 No.12561548 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561542
Sure, I mean they can feel free to put all the point defense systems they want on it but in the end it's just pointless. Really the only military application on earth is rapid transport of goods from base to base.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 11:58:47 No.12561578 Report

Quoted By: >>12561583 >>12561589 >>12561592 >>12561646 >>12561649 >>12561675 >>12561877 >>12561884 >>12561984

Boing!

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1347850078644563969

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:03:51 No.12561583 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561578
looks like a suicide to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:06:24 No.12561589 Report

Quoted By: >>12561617 >>12561826 >>12561836

>>12561578
why is it always the 3rd world countries operating planes that fail hmmm

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:07:11 No.12561592 Report

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>>12561578

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:08:42 No.12561596 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561526
>You're still getting nuked if you drop that in the airspace of anyone who is nuclear capable
Nothing personal

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:12:41 No.12561604 Report

Quoted By: >>12561623

Hop today?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:19:49 No.12561617 Report

Quoted By: >>12561826

>>12561589

Cheaping out in maintenance and pilot wellbeing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:24:12 No.12561623 Report

Quoted By: >>12561702

>>12561604
no some retard violated the range yesterday so we have to do a second SF today

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:31:26 No.12561644 Report

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>>12561035
It's still freaky that just over two years ago, nobody would have expected an unironic rocket that looked like it came from the cover of a 1940s sci-fi book.
>>12561031
Oh yeah, isn't that "wings" logo more for advertising (recruitment) and shit, and not for aircraft?
>>12561053
>fragile and prone to exploding
Basically anything that is able to haul its ass out of the Earth's gravity well (without super-tech that breaks known physics) is going to be fragile. Until we can start building space-only craft in space, that's a basic fact.
>>12561138
>Wait, how the fuck are tracers burning in space?
solid fuel, including oxidizer, plus metals for that bonus fireworks color action
>>12561523
probably even paypigged

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:32:55 No.12561646 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561578
Da fuq, this isn't even on pol yet, but it just hit fucking slashdot. Anyhow, yeah, third world pilots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:36:09 No.12561649 Report

Quoted By: >>12561701

>>12561578
Note 737-500, not MAX, it's an old fucking plane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:36:58 No.12561651 Report

Quoted By: >>12562512

>Only in 2017 and 2018, as Electron began flying and Beck studied flight data, did he come to believe his rocket could be safely brought back to Earth. Now, having completed some preliminary tests and planning more recoveries in 2021, Beck has become a convert.
"If Rocket Lab ever builds a new vehicle, it will fundamentally be reusable from day one," he said. "I’m really surprised when I see new vehicles in development now that aren’t reusable." -Peter Breck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 12:54:45 No.12561675 Report

Quoted By: >>12561714

>>12561578
cant wait for the boeing defence force, the NTSB, to blame everything on the pilots once again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:10:40 No.12561701 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561649
>Still the 737 family
Boing will be forced to rebrand the entire line because normies don’t know the difference.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:12:06 No.12561702 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561623
>all this talk about "mars, hopping, depots, space force" i just wanna fish for god's sake!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:19:18 No.12561714 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561675
Well it looks like a stall and you don't stall a 737 unless you do something really stupid or it's a hardware failure and you do something stupid (e.g. lack stall training)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:24:13 No.12561726 Report

Quoted By: >>12561731

Did they ever fix SN9's dented fin? it still looks crooked

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:25:41 No.12561729 Report

Quoted By: >>12561735

>>12560971
>that pic
>reverse search it
>learn that an astronaut used a jetpack to get and capture a spinning satellite
Fuck. Fuuuuuck. FUUUUUCK. Please tell me at least he was tethered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:26:43 No.12561731 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561726
it will buff out when it explodes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:31:50 No.12561735 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561729
No.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_Maneuvering_Unit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:44:21 No.12561752 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561006
Mil starship would only need tiny, tank-like windows, whereas yours are needlesly even more oversized than those of fighter aircraft (remember that this thing is 50m tall).

Their prime visual access would be monitors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:45:43 No.12561756 Report

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>catching up on the last thread and some nonce is whining about planting in fine dust
You retards realize 'dust' is literally defined by its fineness right? There is also less fine soil.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:52:25 No.12561772 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561414
She a qt ngl

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 13:58:13 No.12561780 Report

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https://youtu.be/8OMG8u-0-Bk
>German settlers on the slopes of Olympus Mons on the 12th of June 2036

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:07:30 No.12561791 Report

Quoted By:

>>12560992
pour water and maek obsidian :]

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:11:17 No.12561797 Report

Quoted By: >>12561800 >>12561804 >>12561810

Is this thing definitely happening tomorrow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:12:56 No.12561800 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561797
noway hose. Some fucktard will make them halt it at last second again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:14:23 No.12561804 Report

Quoted By: >>12561821

>>12561797
IT’S NOT FUCKING SUBORBITAL IF IT DOESN’T REACH SPACE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:17:32 No.12561810 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561797
so 12.5km altitude is fixed for this hop?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:24:18 No.12561821 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561804
>sub
>orbital
Calm down Jeff. That means lower than orbital. Which it is. If I jump a rope, I'm making sub-orbital hops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:26:32 No.12561826 Report

Quoted By: >>12561828 >>12561988

>>12561589
>>12561617
The company is ranked #3 in their country and ranked "Class 1" which is the highest safety rating possible.
If you check the flight path radar, the plane cuts left about 45 deg off path and traveled for a bit before loss of signal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:27:30 No.12561828 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561826
apparently they have found the signal and navy is moving to the area.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:31:12 No.12561836 Report

Quoted By: >>12561842

>>12561589
>3rd world countries operating planes that fail
3rd world countries+decadent corrupt boeing.
b ad combo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:32:37 No.12561842 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561836
dont forget the C which is cutting costs everywhere so your already poor citizens can actually afford to fly with you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:44:19 No.12561865 Report

Quoted By: >>12561978 >>12562080 >>12562519

So it sounds like there will be independent fuel-producing starships
>or reactor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:52:57 No.12561877 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561578
Well this looks really damn sketchy.
The plan was in the air for only 4 minutes and got up to just over 10,000 ft in the air at 287 kts. The plane turned about 30 deg counter-clockwise, and dropped 2000ft and about 60 kts. It then turned back clockwise 30 deg, dropped another 3500ft and 110 kts. It spun another 80 deg clockwise before almost reaching the water. The interesting thing is that the last chunk of data before loss of contact shows the plane at 250ft, but suddenly going 350 kts. I'd assume that's a sensor error, because they would have accelerated a whopping 240 kts in a matter of seconds, while falling from the sky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:54:48 No.12561884 Report

Quoted By: >>12561888 >>12562418 >>12562423

>>12561578
>b-but they're too big to fail! Bail them out!
here's a radical idea: if a corporation sucks it should die. I don't give a FUCK about how big it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 14:57:55 No.12561888 Report

Quoted By: >>12561924

>>12561884
What happens to ULA if boing! goes bankrupt? Will lockheed just absorb them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 15:19:19 No.12561924 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561888

I dont want Lockheed to get Boeing because Boeing is infected with the McDonnel Douglas virus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 15:49:31 No.12561978 Report

Quoted By: >>12562104

>>12561865
>mining droids
>not planning to have workers chunking out the ice like a pre-refrigerant ice plant
baka musk

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 15:53:12 No.12561984 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561578
fwiw, here's the flight path, it had barely taken off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 15:53:41 No.12561988 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561826
>The company is ranked #3 in their country
Having looked at the safety records of Indonesian airlines (and known people who fly on Garuda and Lion Air), that means basically nothing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:03:59 No.12562005 Report

Quoted By: >>12562007 >>12562008 >>12562019 >>12562214 >>12562381 >>12562698

>original Raptor (tm) do not steal

Now that the Chinese are copying Starship when is everyone else going to follow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:06:13 No.12562007 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562005
the west is 99.99% inventions stolen from china, it's bout time they start getting something back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:06:21 No.12562008 Report

Quoted By: >>12562016 >>12562063 >>12563357

>>12562005
ESA is due to begin work on paper designs for their Starship competitor in the mid 2030s

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:11:42 No.12562016 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562008
Which we will cancel and just buy seats on starship

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:13:11 No.12562019 Report

Quoted By: >>12562033

>>12562005
It's good to see someone finally taking Starship seriously, but if anyone thinks the chinks have anything more than a CAD model and stats dictated by a talking head, they're huffing Beijing air.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:19:36 No.12562033 Report

Quoted By: >>12562040 >>12562045 >>12562046 >>12562263

>>12562019
Never underestimate your enemy, this is why you lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:23:00 No.12562040 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562033
Good thing I'm not underestimating them, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:24:21 No.12562045 Report

Quoted By: >>12562062

>>12562033
>A kingdom of cardboard and aluminum rebar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:24:37 No.12562046 Report

Quoted By: >>12562068 >>12562082

>>12562033
I still dont understand why meme "china cannot into STEM" persists in west.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:28:14 No.12562056 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561000
>not even being in control of your home system Oort cloud
Shiggy diggy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:32:15 No.12562062 Report

Quoted By: >>12562072 >>12562073 >>12562077 >>12562081 >>12562263

>>12562045
>Amerishart cope
This is Changsha, China. It's a literally-who tier city but it's very modern and clean. Once you get past the American propaganda you can see that China is a beautiful, modern country.
I can't wait for China to compete in the future space race. They have a larger potential than the west.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:32:17 No.12562063 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562008
ESA is fucked with companies like ariana just as much as nasa is fucked with boeing.
ESA will only really start making reusable rockets after spaceX has stolen all the commercial flights from ariana.
I fucking hate old space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:34:21 No.12562068 Report

Quoted By: >>12562129

>>12562046
And I don't understand why the chinkoid defence force relies on vague, sweeping statements. Tell me why I'm wrong, retard. Keep in mind they're admitting themselves they're ten years away, ten years ago Raptor wasn't even conceived. If they had anything, they'd have a better timeline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:36:28 No.12562072 Report

Quoted By: >>12562124 >>12562534

>>12562062
China is full of literally who tier cities that are "very modern and clean" because no one lives in them and the building code is "if it looks good it is good"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:36:49 No.12562073 Report

Quoted By: >>12562092 >>12562101

>>12562062
How are those rolling brownouts and lack of heating due to not having enough coal for plants after you pissed Australia off and they reduced export?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:37:22 No.12562077 Report

Quoted By: >>12562099

>>12562062
>the cancerous smog
My lungs burn at the thought

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:37:54 No.12562080 Report

Quoted By: >>12562089

>>12561865
how tf does elon musk stay sane when he is constantly bombarded by 5000 popsci indians named pranesh every time he tweets

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:38:03 No.12562081 Report

Quoted By: >>12562099 >>12562430

>>12562062

OOOF

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:38:47 No.12562082 Report

Quoted By: >>12562108

>>12562046
they can, but there is a massive problem with asian education system compared to the west.
Western education makes you apply the things more that you have learned, asian education just makes you learn everything there is and thats it.
It also doesn't help that the school system there is massively corrupt and you pretty much will get your degree if you pay enough.
in other words, chinese docters from rich families who failed their classes but were passed anyway are operating on people all the time in CCP china.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:42:17 No.12562089 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562080
Meh, Prabu had a more insightful post than EA usually makes and Elon responds to him all the time.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:42:52 No.12562092 Report

Quoted By: >>12562107 >>12562119

>>12562073
Don't believe American propaganda. Brownouts are caused by new factories built in Guangdong. The demand is getting high and the electricity production can keep up. China is not running out of coal. China can buy from other Asian countries like Indonesia.
Back on topic. China can potentially be a competitor in the second space race. Maybe after the Americans realize they can't compete economically with China they can try excelling in science. Triggering a space race should boost space exploration R&D. Why do (You) hate China again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:45:22 No.12562099 Report

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>>12562081
It's a cheap energy source unlike meme windmills. Beside, the usage of coal is declining and they are planning to become carbon neutral in 2050.
>>12562077
First time seeing a foggy, humid city? Try visiting asia someday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:45:55 No.12562101 Report

Quoted By: >>12562447

>>12562073
>after you pissed Australia off and they reduced export?
Oh no, Anon, it's even funnier than that. Big mighty China (the glorious Middle Kingdom of 1.4 billion, to which all the good things on Earth and Heaven flow) claims they were being 'bullied' by Australia (a nation of 25 million people on the arse end of the world who were beaten in war by some large birds), so China decided to punish Australia for their impudence by cutting imports of all their products (lobsters, wine, timber, coal) for spurious reasons that are evidently bullshit to anyone with half a brain.

In that finest of Chinese manners, after several millenia they still don't understand how to perform diplomacy with their 'lessers' acquaintances and have decided to cut their nose off to spite their face. Australia's coal is of the kind of high quality required for steelmaking, you wouldn't waste it on power generation.

Of course, now that they refuse to import Australian coal they instead are having to use thermal coal normally reserved for power plants. This results in lower steel yields, but the Chinese steel industry must carry on at its current level of output regardless of efficiency because otherwise the level of layoffs required from scaling it back would cause immediate nationwide revolts due to the massive unemployment.

They can't divert the thermal coal back to its usual uses. They have to keep using substandard coal to make steel or their economy will implode. All of this effort, just to 'punish' Australia for not bending over and taking it in the ass.

They're fucking idiots. As long as they continue performing diplomacy like this (like a giant tantruming child with no sense of finesse) I'm not particularly worried about them becoming *the* superpower. No one likes cooperating with them. The future is multipolar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:47:06 No.12562104 Report

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>>12561978
Yeah human work, or at least robots under direct real-time control of colonists should be a given, but the self contained fuel depot will really help out. A couple of those landed could essentially just become a static, completely self-contained tank farm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:48:48 No.12562107 Report

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>>12562092
China providing "competition" would be important if oldspace needing a kick in the pants was worth worrying about. Luckily we have SpaceX and oldspace is fucked. China is about 20 years behind at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:48:55 No.12562108 Report

Quoted By: >>12562126 >>12562141

>>12562082
Welp I often see scientific papers from china in science journals recently. And racial equlity and blm-pilling in west seems to worsen its education system so that china education is not so bad relatively?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:53:43 No.12562119 Report

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>>12562092
>Why do (You) hate China again?
mostly because you treat your workers like utter shit so if you conquer us well have to work like that too.

Americans treat us like shit but much less, also their culture is cool as fuck with netflix drugs rock and heavy metal.

We are clearly dominated by the us empire and it sucks but it would suck 1000x more if we were dominated by the chinese, promise us standards of living higher than those in mexican sweatshops and an interesting culture and maybe well switch sides.

t.whole undeveloped world, particularly south america

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:54:36 No.12562121 Report

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Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:55:58 No.12562124 Report

Quoted By: >>12562130

>>12562072
>2021
>still believing in ghost cities
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under-occupied_developments_in_China

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:57:22 No.12562126 Report

Quoted By: >>12562154

>>12562108
Well, the western education is in massive decline because of race bullshit and actual communists infiltrating every aspect of it, no denying that.
But the asian education is still even more shit, there is a good reason why so many rich asians send their kids to foreign universities.
And chinese scientists are known for manipulating scientific tests a lot to get the desired results, this is a problem too in the west but a lot more in asia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:59:05 No.12562129 Report

Quoted By: >>12562145

>>12562068
Chang'e 5 was pretty impressive tho, and they at least already try to test reusability with Long March 8. But yeah anyway to catch up with spacex it can take 5-10 years for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 16:59:36 No.12562130 Report

Quoted By: >>12562138 >>12562139

>>12562124
>Believing anything from CCP china
>a nation that has full control over the press and kicks out the foreign press when they try to report on negative shit there.
Ghost cities are real.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:02:14 No.12562134 Report

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Cygnus capture on ISS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:02:52 No.12562137 Report

Quoted By: >>12562153

>>12562121
>https://twitter.com/Elisabe09456260/status/1347860259642159104
what the FUCK is this thing???

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:03:10 No.12562138 Report

Quoted By: >>12562163 >>12562264

>>12562130
Did you even read the article?
>Many developments criticized as ghost cities did materialize into economically vibrant areas when given enough time to develop, such as Pudong, Zhujiang New Town, Zhengdong New Area, Tianducheng and malls such as the Golden Resources Mall and South China Mall.[11] While many developments failed to live up to initial lofty promises, most of them eventually became occupied when given enough time.[7] The "ghost city" moniker has been criticized for "calling the game at halftime"
Anyways, what do you guys think of the Long March 9 rocket? Supposedly can carry 140t to LEO. I wonder if they can compete with Starship.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:03:16 No.12562139 Report

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>>12562130
Yep, and Wade Shepard and Kai Caemmerer were bought off by CCP?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:03:25 No.12562140 Report

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Cygnus and Soyuz just being bros, hanging out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:03:39 No.12562141 Report

Quoted By: >>12562154 >>12562296 >>12562453 >>12562566

>>12562108
If China's educational system is so superior, why the fuck did they send so many hundreds of their bright youth to my uni to crowd out everyone else in business and STEM courses?
Not salty about that directly, but it does make me wonder why they'd rather study here, as opposed to in China? I'm sure it has nothing to do with the outrageous number of Chinese professors, researchers, and private contractors who end up being charged with IP theft and industrial espionage, totally above board they just want some culture exchange right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:06:24 No.12562145 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562129
>But yeah anyway to catch up with spacex it can take 5-10 years for them
Provide your timeline. As you said, they are "testing reusability". They don't even have a Falcon 9 competitor in the cards yet, once they have done their testing their plan is to move to a reusable smallsat launcher. To put it into perspective, Starship is more developed than China's partially reusable smallsat launcher. "Catching up" with a moving target isn't even on the horizon. I'm saying they'll be roughly where the west is with SpaceX now, in 20 years. SpaceX will be, if anything, pulling ahead at that time.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:06:53 No.12562147 Report

Quoted By: >>12562155

Antares rocket. I love the double butthole for some reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:08:30 No.12562150 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561284
That three-core vehicle looks like a pain in the ass to air launch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:09:31 No.12562153 Report

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>>12562137
hehe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:09:44 No.12562154 Report

Quoted By: >>12562165 >>12562296

>>12562126
>>12562141
As I far I know, China sends their youth so then can get diffrent education and experience in diffrent countries.
And the thing that they almost all return to china after graduating to contribute their country and lead researches, being science supervisor etc. And it seems upgrade their education system

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:10:06 No.12562155 Report

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>>12562147
double butthole you say?
(these are the pathfinder engines, freshly-installed)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:10:22 No.12562157 Report

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Another image of Dale Gardner on the Westar VI mission. I would give up a kidney and testicle to fuck around with an MMU

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:12:05 No.12562162 Report

Quoted By: >>12562176

It's a cool place and they say it gets colder
You're bundled up now, wait 'til you get older
But the meteor men beg to differ
Judging by the hole in the satellite picture
The ice we skate is getting pretty thin
The water's getting warm so you might as well swim
My world's on fire, how about yours?
That's the way I like it and I'll never get bored

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:12:23 No.12562163 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562138
>will chink SLS compete with Starship
Chinkoid defence force not showing much of that STEM training they like to brag about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:12:29 No.12562165 Report

Quoted By: >>12562169

>>12562154
>they almost all return to china after graduating to contribute their country and lead researches, being science supervisor etc
No they don’t lmao. It’s about half or so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:13:59 No.12562169 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562165
>No they don’t lmao. It’s about half or so.
You mean they remain and get worker visa after getting education?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:17:55 No.12562175 Report

Quoted By: >>12562269

i really like primal space's voice, very calm and easy to listen to, reminds me of good old documentaries

compare that to everyday astronaut and his cringe mannerisms

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:18:30 No.12562176 Report

Quoted By: >>12562460

>>12562162
HEY NOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:19:26 No.12562180 Report

Quoted By:

>>12560981
>SN9 launch when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:25:15 No.12562191 Report

Quoted By: >>12562194 >>12562206

Sorry Chinks

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:28:14 No.12562194 Report

Quoted By: >>12562197

>>12562191
Przepraszam Chinks

Wolny Tybet Protesty na placu Tiananmen w 1989 roku Protesty na placu Tiananmen w 1989 roku Masakra na placu Tiananmen Walka anty-prawicowa Walka anty-prawicowa Wielki skok do przodu Wielki skok do przodu Wielka proletariacka rewolucja kulturalna Prawa cz?owieka Prawa cz?owieka Demokratyzacja Wolno?? Niezale?no?? Niezale?no?? System wielopartyjny Tajwan Tajwan Formoza Republika Chi?ska Republika Chi?ska Tybet Tybeta?ski Tangut Tybet Dalajlama Falun Dafa Region Autonomiczny Sinciang Ujgur Region Autonomiczny Sinciang Ujgur Pokój Nobla Pokojowa Nagroda Nobla Liu Xiaobo, przemówienie demokratyczne, my?li, antykomunistyczny, kontrrewolucyjny ruch protestacyjny, zamieszki, n?kanie, niepokoje, przeciwdzia?anie przemocy, rehabilitacja, protest przeciwko prawom, baga? Hong Zhi, Falun Dafa, praktykuj?cy Dafa, przymusowa aborcja, oczyszczenie narodowe, eksperyment z ludzkim cia?em, eliminacja Hu Yaobanga, pokojowe przywrócenie w?adzy Wheng Jiang, Zhao Jiy, pokojowe przywrócenie w?adzy Torrents, Chiny, Beijing Spring Epoch Times skomentowa?y komunistyczn? dyktatur?, dyktatur?, st?umienie, ujednolicony nadzór, t?umienie, prze?ladowania, agresj?, grabie?e, zniszczenie, tortury, masakr? i uprowadzanie ?ywych organów, uprowadzanie ludzi biznesu, przemyt, prostytucj? narkotyków, malowanie wiosenne, hazard, loteri? Liniez, Tongi, Tonga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:30:04 No.12562197 Report

Quoted By: >>12562203

>>12562194
why polish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:31:30 No.12562203 Report

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>>12562197
it's aesthetic in a autistic way

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:34:24 No.12562206 Report

Quoted By: >>12562210 >>12562211

>>12562191
This copypasta doesn't even work because you typed it in traditional chinese instead of simplified, retard.
Meds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:36:25 No.12562210 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562206
Because traditional chinese is often used by taiwaneses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:36:42 No.12562211 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562206
I'm sorry, this is actually in simplified Chinese. I didn't pay attention because most people posted the traditional chinese version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:37:04 No.12562214 Report

Quoted By: >>12562219 >>12564075

>>12562005
Why? The west is busy redistributing wealth and cracking down on dangerous fascists. There are more important things to deal with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:40:38 No.12562219 Report

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>>12562214
Well I hope secret sharing of blueprints of starship and raptor to china also would't be important thing to deal with?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:40:58 No.12562221 Report

Quoted By: >>12562409

I want to stick a straw in Jupiter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:42:49 No.12562226 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561374
>sls idea
>1988

OLDSPACE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:48:26 No.12562234 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561064
Desperate times call for desperate measures. No chance to rely on meme computers when elephant aliens are bombing you to the stone age.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:54:22 No.12562246 Report

Quoted By: >>12562250

Indonesia has had a space program for 50 years. Why are they begging SpaceX to set up shop there instead of working harder?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 17:56:14 No.12562250 Report

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>>12562246
I don't know, Indonesia has a lot of people and some half functional infrastructure, why isn't there an Indonesia defence force evangelizing them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:00:07 No.12562255 Report

Quoted By: >>12562260

So yesterday's static fire was aborted due to range violation from some beach goers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:03:36 No.12562260 Report

Quoted By: >>12562287

>>12562255

That seems to have been the case. Today, a new attempt?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:04:22 No.12562263 Report

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>>12562062
>>12562033

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:04:45 No.12562264 Report

Quoted By: >>12562281 >>12562435

>>12562138
A rocket that needs to be build new every launch will never compete, it takes longer to build a new rocket, versus refurb a reused one
LM-9 will not compete
SLS b1 will not compete
NASA needs to stop making rockets
Whatever shit russia is building will not compete
ESA is dead in the water
China is the most likely country to have a starship competitor before 2040 though, so partial credit where credit is due

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:06:18 No.12562267 Report

Quoted By: >>12562271

Remember that many of the Chinese shills do it for free. Also I will never forgive China for trying to expand into Filipino territory. Fucking bugmen we will beat you all to death just try it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:07:18 No.12562269 Report

Quoted By: >>12562270

>>12562175
Estronaut's only virtues is that he got in the game early (if not first) and he's the only one Elon gives any time to.

That said his long form videos are good and he travels to good locations for non Americans.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:08:35 No.12562270 Report

Quoted By: >>12562273

>>12562269
Estronaut makes great videos and he covers cool topics. I’ve never ACTUALLY seen him be a retard leftist like Scott is, but he’s definitely very Reddit in his mannerisms

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:08:36 No.12562271 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562267
Bugmen FEAR the powerful island manlet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:10:31 No.12562273 Report

Quoted By: >>12562279 >>12562283 >>12562285 >>12562286 >>12562289 >>12562294 >>12562297

>>12562270
what's wrong with manley? (i'm assuming that's who you're referring to) i've only seen a couple of videos of his, he seems ok and has a funny accent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:11:51 No.12562279 Report

Quoted By: >>12562286 >>12562294 >>12562297

>>12562273
oh i missed the "leftist" part. that's a shame if true

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:12:05 No.12562281 Report

Quoted By: >>12562435

>>12562264
The entire world will be shit on by Starship. China will likely hammer out a vehicle with much less payload capability just to say “ROOK ST CHINA VELY POWLEFUL WAAAAAH.” Reminder that Long March 8 - their supposed Falcon 9 competitor - can only put half of Falcon 9’s payload into LEO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:12:56 No.12562283 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562273
im interested in this as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:13:18 No.12562285 Report

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>>12562273
he's extremely woke on twitter

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:13:22 No.12562286 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562273
>>12562279
He’s a great dude in his videos and I love him dearly but please do not go to his Twitter, ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:13:33 No.12562287 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562260
SpaceX doesn't test in weekends anymore due to county agreements to open the beach on weekends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:13:42 No.12562289 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562273
many reasons, but my main reason, and you all are going to call me a retard for it, but there is something off about the guy.
His passive aggressiveness reminds me of a piece of shit i know personally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:15:25 No.12562294 Report

Quoted By: >>12562297

>>12562273
>>12562279

some people don't like him because he pops off on twitter, and has pretty basic lib opinions on politics. for instance, he's not particularly sad about Bridenstine leaving because of Bridenstine's opposition to gay marriage in the past.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:16:07 No.12562296 Report

Quoted By: >>12562401

>>12562154
>>12562141
They send them to the West so the youth can develop a healthy hatred for Western thought and develop and appreciation for glorious socialism with Chinese characteristics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:16:40 No.12562297 Report

Quoted By: >>12562306

>>12562294
>>12562273
>>12562279
He tried organizing a one on one meeting with Kamala Harris to basically beg her to not shit on space. It didn’t work lol.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:19:29 No.12562301 Report

Quoted By: >>12562305 >>12562316 >>12562466

Aerospike or Bell nozzle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:20:24 No.12562305 Report

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>>12562301
Estronaut has a good video on the subject actually

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:20:41 No.12562306 Report

Quoted By: >>12562311

>>12562297
>"orange man bad! I vote for pedo-man and brown woman!"
>"oh hello brown woman, pls let us keep space?"
I wonder if people like this ever self-reflect on the choices they make.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:23:48 No.12562311 Report

Quoted By: >>12562326

>>12562306
Deep down they do but Scott lives in California and has kids named Sky and Orion trust me he would rather cancel spaceflight altogether than support a conservative. A funny thought experiment is his view of Elon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:24:14 No.12562316 Report

Quoted By: >>12562319 >>12562348 >>12562481

>>12562301
Aerospike, commonality of sea level and vacuum engines plus superior overall propellant utilization curve is IMO a worthwhile tradeoff against maximizing TWR or ISP.
Plus, worth considering that the only aerospikes that actually reached maturity were utilizing plumbing from already existing converging/diverging rocket engines, and I always wonder if they would not have performed better if they had been designed from the ground up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:26:28 No.12562319 Report

Quoted By: >>12562336

>>12562316
This is untrue. Dedicated sea level and vacuum engines mog the fuck out of aerospikes and they are cheaper to build on a per unit basis. Aerospikes are complicated as hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:28:14 No.12562326 Report

Quoted By: >>12562333 >>12562344 >>12562353 >>12562361 >>12563163 >>12564731

>>12562311
>kids named Sky and Orion
Why do parents do this to their children, do they not stop and think about the choice they're making? Imagine growing up named "orion".
Elon's not innocent here either, the fuck was he thinking with his new kid's name? It's like everyone wants to be unique and quirky while naming their children but don't realize that a person has to live with that name for the rest of their life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:29:56 No.12562331 Report

Quoted By: >>12562341

i would name my daughter andromeda desu, rate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:30:26 No.12562333 Report

Quoted By: >>12562350

>>12562326
>Sky and Orion are bad names
Nigger, you ain't seen shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:32:11 No.12562336 Report

Quoted By: >>12562486

>>12562319
You're basing this on the two aerospikes that actually made it to maturity I assume, the RS-2200 and J2 Aerospike? Those aerospikes built as experimental nozzles based off of two of America's most expensive and complicated LOX/LH2 engines, where components for the aerospikes had to be hand-machined and tooling for them had to be invented from scratch because none existed before?
I don't think you're being exactly fair to the concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:33:33 No.12562341 Report

Quoted By: >>12562363

>>12562331
I’m going to name my son Milky Way so he can be pegged by your daughter in the future

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:36:41 No.12562344 Report

Quoted By: >>12562350 >>12562352

>>12562326
>Imagine growing up named "orion".
maybe it's me being ESL, but that doesn't sound too bad
then again, all english names are kinda cringe to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:37:35 No.12562348 Report

Quoted By: >>12562359

>>12562316
>put sub optimal atmospheric engines on the stage that spends all its time in the atmosphere
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:38:20 No.12562350 Report

Quoted By: >>12562358 >>12562392 >>12562454

>>12562333
Whether you call your kid Makaya-lynn or Lashawnda, either way you suck and shouldn't reproduce.
>>12562344
It's like naming your kid Zeus, it's just dumb. Save the cutesy retarded names for pets, not children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:38:28 No.12562352 Report

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>>12562344
My brother is named De’Andre trust me these names can get bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:38:38 No.12562353 Report

Quoted By: >>12562354

>>12562326
>O'Ryan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:39:22 No.12562354 Report

Quoted By: >>12562356

>>12562353
Fucking micks

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:40:13 No.12562356 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562354
Jejejej

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:40:14 No.12562358 Report

Quoted By: >>12562399

>>12562350
All the kids around here seem to carry boring names lime mohhamad and abdulah. The rest are named after celebrities. Frankly, I'd love to see few kids named Zeus around here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:40:21 No.12562359 Report

Quoted By: >>12562382 >>12562490

>>12562348
>Spend less time building two different types of expansion bell.
>Utilize your propellant more efficiently throughout the burn.
Seems like a trade worth considering if your goal is to build a lot of rockets which are going to be flying constantly, almost like that tradeoff where you sacrifice maximum TWR and maximum ISP from either KeroLOX or HydroLOX in favor of maximum economical performance with MethaLOX.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:40:26 No.12562361 Report

Quoted By: >>12562364

>>12562326
what I don't get is why nobody names kids after people who were influential in their life like their parents or grandparents. If my kid has a child and names it something stupid instead of after me, the person who raised them, I'd be a little pissed 2bh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:40:54 No.12562362 Report

Quoted By: >>12562377

would an aerospike be safer / more redundant than a bell engine? Doesn't it feed all the engines to the same 'bell' (the spike) but there are multiple nozzels per engine and you could tie them together or something so that if 1 engine failed it's nozzles can be supplied by the other engines to keep the forces on the spike equal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:41:40 No.12562363 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562341
noice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:41:52 No.12562364 Report

Quoted By: >>12562375

>>12562361
I was named after my grandfather. He just has the same name as my father

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:42:17 No.12562366 Report

Quoted By: >>12562370 >>12562378 >>12562380 >>12562388 >>12562494 >>12562789

How much fuel/oxydizer does a propulsive landing take anyway? As a percentage of the total they're carrying. i assume it's a small amount since the drag does most of the work. maybe the starship second stage will need more to help come down from orbital velocity, even if the bellyflop does the lion's share

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:44:18 No.12562370 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562366
10 percent. My dad works at spacex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:45:02 No.12562375 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562364
My dad named me something different specifically to spite his father, but it's better than being named after a Game of Thrones character

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:45:26 No.12562377 Report

Quoted By: >>12562391 >>12562532

>>12562362
Yes, there are many simple nozzles feeding into an aerospike, if any one fails out it's direct opposite on the other side of the ramp/cone can also switch off with only a very minimal reduction to overall engine performance. The ramp is under higher thermal stresses but active cooling eliminates this issue and new methods of building engines with cooling channels will reduce one of the aerospike's original problems which was that like the RS-25 it needed many small welded cooling pipes which was complicated and cost mass. Nowadays an additively manufactured spike or ramp would eliminate this issue. The structural stresses on Aerospikes are less, they are not containing the enormous pressure of a full sized combustion chamber, the atmosphere does most of that work and the narrowing shape of the spike transforms pressure inward on the spike into propulsive force that pushes the whole rocket forwards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:45:31 No.12562378 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562366
8% My dad works for SpaceX

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:45:31 No.12562379 Report

Quoted By:

saved

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:45:57 No.12562380 Report

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>>12562366
The starting velocity doesn't matter, its the terminal velocity that counts. Starship has a much lower one because of the belly flop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:46:07 No.12562381 Report

Quoted By: >>12562396 >>12562397

>>12562005
>can only be reused 50 times
kek, raptor engine is far better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:46:24 No.12562382 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562359
Yes, making an engine bell is much harder than a meme engine under performing in all flight regimes but sadly its the way forward. We do the hard things because they are hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:47:02 No.12562385 Report

Quoted By: >>12562387

Where's the new thread at niggas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:47:53 No.12562387 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562385
Anon the thread is on pg 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:47:54 No.12562388 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562366
termimal velocity + gravity losess + hovertime.

Very complicated calculation. Triple the terminal velocity and you'll probably be safe.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:49:20 No.12562391 Report

Quoted By: >>12562416

>>12562377
would you want to turn a nozzle off though? Wouldn't that cause the adjacent nozzles to have some room to flare sideways to the gap? Can't you just connect plumbing like so so that if engine 2 failed, it's nozzles are still getting supplied by the other engines, only overall thrust of each nozzle is reduced (unless you throttle up to compensate)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:49:38 No.12562392 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562350
it's a matter of perspective
naming people after people from Greek mythology isn't inherently worse than naming them after Jewish mythology
you are just already used to Jacobs and Joshuas
Zeus is too far, that's like naming somebody Jehovah

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:51:42 No.12562395 Report

Quoted By: >>12562403 >>12562461 >>12562720

What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:51:43 No.12562396 Report

Quoted By: >>12562402 >>12562408

>>12562381
Elon is an optimist. Raptor probably wouldn't even last long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:52:10 No.12562397 Report

Quoted By: >>12562402 >>12562407 >>12562408

>>12562381
no Raptor was used more than like 3 times

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:52:44 No.12562399 Report

Quoted By: >>12562410 >>12562413

>>12562358
do you live in iraq or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:52:50 No.12562401 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562296
More like some of them get hired by gullible European companies and they then feed CCP with secrets

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:52:50 No.12562402 Report

Quoted By: >>12562415 >>12562445

>>12562397
>>12562396
Do you do it for free?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:53:01 No.12562403 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562395
watching politicians suffer the consequences of their actions for once in their lives is entertaining and ultimately good for the country

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:53:36 No.12562407 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562397
My paper engine can be reused a thousand times in your ass. Want me to test the prototype on you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:53:47 No.12562408 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562396
>>12562397
im replying to the fact that the chinese engine can only do 50 firings

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:53:52 No.12562409 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562221
How do we make Jupiters storms calm down?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:53:52 No.12562410 Report

Quoted By: >>12562420

>>12562399
No he’s from Yurop

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:54:27 No.12562412 Report

Quoted By:

Are there overpressure warnings out today for Boca Chica?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:54:47 No.12562413 Report

Quoted By: >>12562420

>>12562399
Sometimes I think so too but no, it's just that Iraq moved here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:55:29 No.12562415 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562402
Of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:55:35 No.12562416 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562391
Haven't dug into that but on the face it seems possible, and better than having nozzles shut down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:56:08 No.12562418 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561884
umm, BASTE??

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:56:53 No.12562420 Report

Quoted By: >>12562442

>>12562413
>>12562410
where in europe are you? bosnia?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:57:33 No.12562423 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561884
What you are suggesting is fascism and we can't have that in our country, sweaty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:57:44 No.12562424 Report

Quoted By: >>12562433

>>12560981
>I can't believe the future of space travel looks like a water tower that is crudely made from the junkyard.
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:59:03 No.12562430 Report

Quoted By: >>12562434

>>12562081
>four different yellow-red-browns
FUCK
what the FUCK is so hard about making a readable graph, you literally just pick colors that are distinct, fucking RETARDS man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:59:45 No.12562433 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562424
It's just too cheesy and 40's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 18:59:58 No.12562434 Report

Quoted By: >>12562543

>>12562430
not everyone is colorblind anon

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:00:42 No.12562435 Report

Quoted By: >>12562441 >>12562446

>>12562264
>>12562281

Soyuz-7 (Amur LNG/Methane project) may be able to compete.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:02:04 No.12562441 Report

Quoted By: >>12562477

>>12562435
>spends thirty years to make shitty proton knockoff aka angara

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:02:06 No.12562442 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562420
Germany

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:03:28 No.12562445 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562402
no, the CCP is paying me 10 RNB and 1 social credit for every post neutral towards China
one day Xi himself will grant me citizenship of the Eternal Shénzh?u for my services

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:03:37 No.12562446 Report

Quoted By: >>12562477

>>12562435
It's much closer than any nonreusable, but Falcon's marginal cost is like 12 million. Still, 22 mil is definitely not bad to serve the Russian government and any customers who either don't want to do business with the US or just want to diversify their launchers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:03:38 No.12562447 Report

Quoted By: >>12562467

>>12562101
>The future is multipolar.
The future is limitless expansion into space, and the selection pressure there will be for the fastest growing societies beyond all else. IN order to preserve western ideal, and I'm being serious here, our best bet is to get a self sustaining Mars colony with a high proportion of mormon colonists.
Just like turning a clearcut back to old growth forest, the first wave of trees need to be fast growing softwoods, which rapidly take over and establish ground cover which can shelter the more long lived and larger hardwoods. By analogy, get an expanding sphere of mormon colonies passing through the universe, and a few thousand years after they show up the societal ideology will transition from focus on growth to focus on sustaining and developing complexity/sophistication.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:05:27 No.12562453 Report

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>>12562141
>If China's educational system is so superior, why the fuck did they send so many hundreds of their bright youth to my uni to crowd out everyone else in business and STEM courses?
So that they would crow out everyone else from the business and STEM courses, duh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:05:27 No.12562454 Report

Quoted By: >>12562473

>>12562350
>It's like naming your kid Zeus, it's just dumb. Save the cutesy retarded names for pets, not children.
You sound boring and boomer as shit. I would totally give my kid a greco-roman name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:06:28 No.12562460 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562176
YOURE AN ALL STAR

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:06:35 No.12562461 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562395
He's talking about the simulation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:07:28 No.12562466 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562301
Bell, always.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:07:31 No.12562467 Report

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>>12562447
>Mormons as the space colonisation vanguard
>tfw they really are going to get their own planets

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:08:43 No.12562472 Report

Quoted By: >>12562480 >>12562546

What is the best rocket to have ever existed and why is it the New Glenn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:08:49 No.12562473 Report

Quoted By: >>12562474

>>12562454
Retarded zoomer detected
I bet you have one of those stupid names yourself lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:10:00 No.12562474 Report

Quoted By: >>12562987

>>12562473
>not naming your kid after a traitor
Brutus is kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:10:37 No.12562477 Report

Quoted By: >>12562497

>>12562441

To be fair, Angara is a known white elephant, basicaly their equivelant of the SLS.

>>12562446

The Soyuz-7 is a vast improvement on every level for the Russians so yeah, it is what Roscosmos realy needs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:10:50 No.12562480 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562472
>Existed
New what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:11:15 No.12562481 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562316
>plus superior overall propellant utilization curve is IMO a worthwhile tradeoff against maximizing TWR or ISP.
Dude, a bell nozzle always gets more TWR than an aerospike and also always gets more Isp at its design altitude. For launch, TWR matters more than anything else, and at sea level a sea level bell gets both higher Isp and higher TWR than an aerospike. The first stage burn of a reusable booster only lasts a couple minutes, then stage separation occurs and the upper stage with its vacuum bells takes over, offering the best TWR and Isp. There is LITERALLY never any reason to use an aerospike on Earth, our atmosphere is not thick enough for it to ever be worth it.
As for commonality of nozzles between stages, no. That's a dumb argument. SpaceX has proven that you can have two nozzle variants of the same engine without much hassle, with both Merlin and Raptor at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:12:46 No.12562486 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562336
The tech is a dead end, dude. Give up. Nobody will do aerospikes until we're building SSTO craft for doing launch around Titan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:15:02 No.12562490 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562359
>>Utilize your propellant more efficiently throughout the burn.
Aerospikes are less efficient at sea level and less efficient in vacuum. They are less propellant efficient over the course of an entire launch except for the last minute of the first stage burn, which is not nearly enough justification to sacrifice performance during the previous 2.5 minutes of first stage burn and subsequent 7 minutes of second stage burn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:16:11 No.12562494 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562366
>How much fuel/oxydizer does a propulsive landing take anyway?
The amount that is stored inside the header tanks, buddy. ie very small fraction.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:16:38 No.12562497 Report

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>>12562477
If it actually ends up being as reliable as Falcon (and previous Soyuz rockets for that matter) it could actually make Roscosmos become a positive profit maker on top of just actually being able to pay for itself easily. They could reduce seat costs by a large margin (assuming they put a capsule ontop of this thing ever) and still make a shitload more than they would with their expendable Soyuz launcher, on top of doing cheap cargo and milsat missions.

RosCos UNJUSTed finally?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:17:13 No.12562498 Report

Quoted By: >>12562500 >>12562504 >>12562559

>Absolutely DESTROYS and mogs the SLS
Nothing personnel, ??

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:17:38 No.12562499 Report

Quoted By: >>12562539

>>12561374
>hour long
Nope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:18:27 No.12562500 Report

Quoted By: >>12562511 >>12562514

>>12562498
I might not buy that China will become the world's new superpower and I certainly am dubious that they will make as much progress in space as they claim they will, I would not be surprised at all if they completely BTFO SLS.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:19:03 No.12562504 Report

Quoted By: >>12562559

>>12562498
NOOOO ELON MUSKU PREASE!!!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:21:39 No.12562511 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562500
Anon even New Glenn BTFO’s SLS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:22:03 No.12562512 Report

Quoted By: >>12562517

>>12561651
After musk did it first he became a convert
Unfortunately parachuting into the Atlantic ruins it so there will be no effective reuse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:22:44 No.12562514 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562500
>BTFO SLS
That's trivial for anyone who wants to build a rocket. It's impossible not to beat the SLS if you try building a heavy lifter. SpaceX already did it with the FH.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:23:37 No.12562517 Report

Quoted By: >>12562570

>>12562512
the helicopter catching thing will happen in 2021 imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:24:07 No.12562519 Report

Quoted By: >>12562522

>>12561865
Solar is better power by weight than any reactor ever made and no one in the US is even making reactors

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:24:30 No.12562520 Report

Quoted By: >>12562524 >>12562525 >>12562562 >>12562572 >>12563280 >>12563289

>>12560971
Could SpaceX give Falcon Heavy a 5 meter wide upper stage? How close is Falcon Heavy to BTFO’ing SLS?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:25:20 No.12562522 Report

Quoted By: >>12562526 >>12562537

>>12562519
uh, bro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:26:14 No.12562524 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562520
>SLS
>2020

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:26:21 No.12562525 Report

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>>12562520
won't happen. not at all worth the rnd with starship first orbit well on its way

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:26:24 No.12562526 Report

Quoted By: >>12562535

>>12562522

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:26:45 No.12562529 Report

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They kinda bundled starship naming, eh?
'Starship' is alright, not exactly inspired but serviceable, and the whole super heavy thing is confusing at a glance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:27:16 No.12562532 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562377
>The structural stresses on Aerospikes are less, they are not containing the enormous pressure of a full sized combustion chamber
Completely wrong, the combustion chamber of an aerospike is effectively 10x to 20x bigger than the combustion chamber of a bell nozzle, and atmosphere does nothing to contain any of the gasses inside the combustion chamber. Remember that the aerospike nozzle is only a NOZZLE, there is no real difference on the actual power head side of things, except for increased difficulty keeping the proportionally much larger combustion chamber area cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:27:46 No.12562534 Report

Quoted By: >>12562788

>>12562072
If you are actually building real estate for people to live in you will always have “empty” cities for periods of time

When’s the last time the west had a new city instead of cramming more migrants into the suburbs of existing shitholes?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:28:09 No.12562535 Report

Quoted By: >>12562547 >>12562593

>>12562526

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:28:19 No.12562537 Report

Quoted By: >>12562544

>>12562522
Bro, there is no reactor for Mars. Kilopower is a glorified RTG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:28:35 No.12562539 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562499
>set playback to 2x
>only listen to first quarter
>???
>profit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:30:13 No.12562543 Report

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>>12562434
I keep my screen brightness down when I'm in the dark and it makes it harder to distinguish between orange-red and red-orange, not my fault when there are at least a dozen completely distinct and easily distinguishable colors to pick from at any time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:30:18 No.12562544 Report

Quoted By: >>12562552

>>12562537
if it's deemed to be the best option overall spacex team will make one from scratch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:31:15 No.12562546 Report

Quoted By: >>12562554

>>12562472
>What is the best rocket to have never existed and why is it the New Glenn?
fixed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:31:15 No.12562547 Report

Quoted By: >>12562553 >>12562556

>>12562535
>440MT panels
5 starships and few million dollars
>150MT reactor
2 starships and several hundred billion dollars and half a century in "Mars-rating" a reactor design.

I'm betting on the realistic variant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:32:18 No.12562552 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562544
I think musk mentioned how difficult from legal standpoint that is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:32:27 No.12562553 Report

Quoted By: >>12562558 >>12562569 >>12562573

>>12562547
>literally just make up big numbers because you're scared of atoms

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:32:49 No.12562554 Report

Quoted By: >>12562578

>>12562546
not even in the top 10 of non-existing best rockets

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:33:04 No.12562556 Report

Quoted By: >>12562579

>>12562547
wonder if there will be a "solar ship" variant. Just packed to the fucking brim with solar panels and batteries and has everything needed to use the power and dispense it. Pretty cool that SS is big enough to act as a building.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:33:42 No.12562558 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562553
>make up numbers.
There's a nuclear powerplant being built since the 80's next to me. This shit is slower than glaciers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:34:07 No.12562559 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562504
>>12562498
side boosters are for fags. Common core gets a pass tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:35:36 No.12562562 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562520
>Could SpaceX give Falcon Heavy a 5 meter wide upper stage?
Probably, but they won't. Not because they can't but because there's no reason to. Also it would not be transportable via road.
>How close is Falcon Heavy to BTFO’ing SLS?
Happened 2 years 11 months ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:36:55 No.12562566 Report

Quoted By: >>12562577

>>12562141
>If China's educational system is so superior, why the fuck did they send so many hundreds of their bright youth to my uni to crowd out everyone else in business and STEM courses?
because theyre bright enough to learn from all prestigious education systems in the world, you guys dont learn from theirs and that will be your undoing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:37:22 No.12562569 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562553
>make up big numbers
Lets put it like this - design your martian reactor, produce it, and sell it at price comparable to the solar panels. Since fundamentally it will solve the need to deploy large fields of panels it will ultimately win out and SpaceX will take it.

I am 100% certain neither you nor somebody else will pull it off within the first half of this century, if at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:37:27 No.12562570 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562517
A chopper and a ship to operate it, being rented for days with some sort of unique setup involved, is going to be pretty expensive too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:37:35 No.12562572 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562520
>SLS
>2020
>Starship
>2023
I think they mixed those two dates up :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:38:11 No.12562573 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562553
Nah dude, it's because the public is scared of atoms, which means the government is extremely stingy about letting private ventures work with atoms, which means for all the advantages of nuclear in theory, in practice is would be a development hell absolute flashing lights screaming nightmare, so they will instead send 1000 tons of solar panels and batteries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:38:14 No.12562574 Report

Quoted By:

I'm still not convinced by this mars thing. Feel like what's more likely to happen is we spread to orbit first. I'll bet 50 bux that a large-scale, likely industrial (permanent population 100+) orbital station proves a lot more practical and ends up coming before any serious planetary colonization effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:38:59 No.12562577 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562566
ok chang

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:39:12 No.12562578 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562554
I agree, it was simply a dig at that guy lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:39:29 No.12562579 Report

Quoted By: >>12562582

>>12562556
Generally, a single SS landing can put down about 1MW worth of power in terms of solar panels. You can get more with optimization instead of common off the shelf hardware.

Deploying it is hard. I'm voting for people with cybertrucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:40:54 No.12562582 Report

Quoted By: >>12562588 >>12562589 >>12562594 >>12562745

>>12562579
doesn't dust on mars stick to everything? How will they handle that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:43:08 No.12562588 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562582
nasa was worried about that with the pre rtg rovers. it turns out the wind clears it off pretty well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:43:37 No.12562589 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562582
Tilt them so they don't build up dust. You are probably thinking of the very sticky moon dust.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:44:51 No.12562593 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562535
Where is this 15 ton 650 kilowatt reactor now? Do any exist ? Does the highly enriched uranium or plutonium needed for it exist?
It’s never been about mass but about the cost... government doesn’t let people do nuclear anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:45:27 No.12562594 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562582
Mars dust isn't so terrible, because there actually is an atmosphere and it all gets ground down finely. Moon dust is the really bad one.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:47:30 No.12562599 Report

Quoted By: >>12562603 >>12562612

This kills the Mars """colonization""" shill. Take off your popsci goggles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:49:49 No.12562603 Report

Quoted By: >>12562752

>>12562599
Circular
Train tracks
45% bank
,8 of a G
Women are confined there all their life

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:51:00 No.12562605 Report

Quoted By: >>12562611 >>12562621 >>12562908

what are your guys thoughts on if the skycrane will work again and on how ingenuity will perform?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:53:48 No.12562611 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562605
classic nasa overengineering. the first time was a fluke

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:54:20 No.12562612 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562599
There is literally nothing wrong with jello babies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:57:27 No.12562621 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562605
Both will work perfectly desu

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:58:11 No.12562624 Report

Quoted By: >>12562631 >>12562646 >>12562657 >>12562914 >>12564285

Elon is opening up Boca Chica to the public soon https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1347977322364694528

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 19:59:30 No.12562631 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562624
I will personally get him to shut it down, no worries
Whatever it takes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:03:53 No.12562641 Report

Quoted By: >>12562645 >>12562652

ITAR is going away or being severely curtailed. Do you know why? Because the richest man in the world fucking says so, that's why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:05:21 No.12562645 Report

Quoted By: >>12562653 >>12562659

>>12562641
>implying being the richest man from overvalued stocks matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:05:22 No.12562646 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562624
>covid
>passing
They'll never let us go back and everybody knows it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:06:12 No.12562649 Report

Quoted By: >>12562914

sounds sick

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:07:15 No.12562652 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562641
which country are we going to pull rocket engineers from this time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:07:46 No.12562653 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562645
multiple states were fumbling over each other to get the next gigafactory when elon's market cap was a fraction of what it is now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:08:21 No.12562657 Report

Quoted By: >>12562665

>>12562624
isn't there supposed to be a crane mounted to the top of highbay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:09:14 No.12562659 Report

Quoted By: >>12562663 >>12562675

>>12562645
He made commiefornia kneel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:10:23 No.12562663 Report

Quoted By: >>12562688 >>12562694

>>12562659
No, he gave up and left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:11:10 No.12562665 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562657
support beams for it being installed have been scouted by bcg recently. the bar area is above the crane obviously.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:16:31 No.12562675 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562659
oops

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:21:39 No.12562688 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562663
If by "give up" you mean called their bluff, started work again WHILE packing for greener pastures while no one did shit, yeah he gave up lol. Gonna give up all the way to Mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:25:31 No.12562694 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562663
within the next 5 years spacex and tesla will be fully incorporated in texas. it will take some time to get the infrastructure, but it's obvious to anyone paying attention. just elon personally leaving cali takes away a substantial amount of the state's tax revenue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:29:31 No.12562698 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562005
That model looks like they're trying to copy a Merlin and a Raptor at the same time, lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:38:52 No.12562720 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562395
to expect another RUD next week?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:45:05 No.12562735 Report

Quoted By:

Post the SLS contractor webm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:51:24 No.12562745 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562582
Opportunity was solar and lasted like a decade with no maintenance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:54:36 No.12562752 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562603
>Women are confined there all their life
I'm sold

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:57:17 No.12562756 Report

Quoted By: >>12562762 >>12562839

>tusday earliest for SN9 flight
RIP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:58:37 No.12562759 Report

Quoted By: >>12562825

>>12561258
Is more smaller engines better for efficiency than like 1-5 large engines, or is it just a size thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 20:59:17 No.12562762 Report

Quoted By: >>12562839

>>12562756
What happened to Monday?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:08:23 No.12562777 Report

Quoted By:

I just randomly discovered you can just use
>https://www.youtube.com/spacex
to visit a channel apparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:12:43 No.12562788 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562534
Mostly things go from sleepy towns to cities

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:12:57 No.12562789 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562366
Very,very little. Starship,when landing, has next to no fuel, which makes it very light, meaning it doesn't need much energy to slow down and land. It's likely below 5% of it's total fuel count.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:19:43 No.12562814 Report

Quoted By: >>12562820

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:21:30 No.12562820 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562814

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:23:57 No.12562825 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562759
1 big engine is good for small vehicles
smaller engines are better for bigger vehicles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:26:07 No.12562831 Report

Quoted By:

not really a fan of vulcan's engine configuration

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:27:51 No.12562839 Report

Quoted By: >>12562855

>>12562756
>>12562762
I thought it was gonna be tomorrow

Shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:33:35 No.12562855 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562839
There was a boomer fishing violation yesterday for the static fire

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:42:04 No.12562882 Report

Quoted By: >>12562888 >>12562893 >>12562898 >>12562899 >>12562907 >>12562928

Bros...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:44:16 No.12562888 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562882
Exfuckingscuse me? How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:45:08 No.12562893 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562882
Wait? More than 12.5 km?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:46:36 No.12562898 Report

Quoted By: >>12562907 >>12562909

>>12562882
Is from "surface to space" different than "surface to unlimited"? FAA bros please clarify

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:46:41 No.12562899 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562882
Pretty sure it's just like the snate hop's "surface to unlimited". It refers to the scope of the restriction, not the scope of the test.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:50:04 No.12562907 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562882
>>12562898
It says surface to unlimited. The tweet is just trying to get traction by writing weasel words.
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_1_2565.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:50:06 No.12562908 Report

Quoted By: >>12562917

>>12562605
Ingenuity will work as projected and forgotten when battery runs out. Stupid fucking waste of space that was slapped in there when the rover was already done and mission designed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:50:35 No.12562909 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562898
unlimited implies they're cleared to fly to Andromeda, and the FAA didn't want SpaceX doing a runner so they've limited it to LEO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:51:03 No.12562911 Report

Quoted By:

>>12561106
Maybe there’ll be crazy boarding fights because people want to avoid creating debris fields

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:51:27 No.12562914 Report

Quoted By: >>12562920 >>12562929 >>12562936

>>12562624
>>12562649
Will I be able to enjoy SpaceX brand Craft IPA's there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:52:08 No.12562917 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562908
Isn't it rechargeable? I thought it wasn't a bad idea to be able to get overhead shots of the terrain in order to plot a path.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:53:31 No.12562920 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562914
I mean at that point Musk should fund a monastery on the premises so monks can make cybertrappist beer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:56:03 No.12562928 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562882
NSF paypiggies knew about this weeks ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:56:35 No.12562929 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562914
chop glass shape like starshipw hen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:58:04 No.12562936 Report

Quoted By: >>12562948

>>12562914
no, boca chica is a dry county

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:58:06 No.12562937 Report

Quoted By: >>12562952 >>12563375

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:59:11 No.12562941 Report

Quoted By: >>12562943 >>12562944 >>12562945 >>12563210

What's good about Texas that everyone support elon moving there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:59:15 No.12562942 Report

Quoted By:

Say what you want about China but at least they’re not pussies about nuclear

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 21:59:31 No.12562943 Report

Quoted By: >>12562947

>>12562941
It isn’t california

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:00:00 No.12562944 Report

Quoted By: >>12562947 >>12562956

>>12562941
Pro business

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:00:31 No.12562945 Report

Quoted By: >>12562947

>>12562941
It’s better than California, a decaying wasteland hellhole with crazy regulations and taxes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:01:47 No.12562947 Report

Quoted By: >>12562951 >>12562955 >>12562957

>>12562943
>>12562944
>>12562945
Then why in first place elon started in California or at that time it wasn't shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:01:52 No.12562948 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562936
You can still get beer in dry counties no? Just no hard liquor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:02:20 No.12562951 Report

Quoted By: >>12562955 >>12562960

>>12562947
It’s gotten substantially worse in the last ten years, and they have draconian coronavirus restrictions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:02:36 No.12562952 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562937
ELON AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
YOU FUCKING WHITE NIG
STOP TEASING ME I NEED TO COOOOOOOM

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:03:35 No.12562955 Report

Quoted By: >>12562960

>>12562947
California is rapidly disintegrating, yes.
>>12562951
Even Joe Rogan jumped ship

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:04:28 No.12562956 Report

Quoted By: >>12562973 >>12562985

>>12562944
so why Texas is Pro business and California isn't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:04:41 No.12562957 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562947
Silicon valley. California had the people with the mindset which made companies like SpaceX and Tesla possible. Now they're self sustaining, the name brings in the people, and California has become too limiting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:05:01 No.12562960 Report

Quoted By: >>12562964 >>12562966 >>12562967 >>12562985 >>12563054

>>12562951
>>12562955
Doesn't that mean that... californians are going to other places, carrying californiaism with them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:06:32 No.12562964 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562960
Yes, reminder to open fire when you see their plates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:07:43 No.12562966 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562960
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:07:59 No.12562967 Report

Quoted By: >>12562990

>>12562960
Yes. Everything will get worse until humanity is a race of slaves ruled by vampire elites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:10:04 No.12562973 Report

Quoted By: >>12562992

>>12562956
The Texas state government is designed to do nothing. Legislators aren't paid enough to make it a full time job ($600 a month) and they only meet for 140 days every other year, the first 60 days of which they're not allowed to pass any legislation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:10:39 No.12562979 Report

Quoted By: >>12562983 >>12562988

Y'all are delusional. It isn't planned, but knowing Elon, if they are cleared for unlimited he WILL push the envelope and try to take it to orbit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:11:03 No.12562981 Report

Quoted By: >>12562995 >>12563019 >>12563501

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:11:24 No.12562983 Report

Quoted By: >>12563033

>>12562979
Retard no they won’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:11:59 No.12562985 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562956
Cali takes its status for granted and doesn't recognize the fact that it can all rot away. Texas and much of the rest of the region see the value in attracting the high earners that Californian decadence turns away.
>>12562960
This is the meme, in my opinion it's overwrought as the numbers show that Californian diaspora overall leans just as conservative as the people bitching.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:12:46 No.12562987 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562474
>Disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:13:00 No.12562988 Report

Quoted By: >>12563033 >>12563075

>>12562979
just Starship can't make it to orbit, period, ever
there are strict restrictions baked into this permit about how much fuel can be loaded, and probably on the height and ascent profile as well
the restriction is for unlimited is because SN9 will be travelling above regulated airspace

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:13:11 No.12562990 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562967
>Everything will get worse until humanity is a race of slaves ruled by vampire elites.
yeah but some lucky bastard will become a bredding bull, they will literally put women in his cage all day long for him to impregnate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:13:51 No.12562992 Report

Quoted By: >>12562994 >>12563001 >>12563003 >>12563005

>>12562973
So Texas has a touch of anarcho-capitalism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:14:30 No.12562994 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562992
anarcho fuck-off-ism

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:14:37 No.12562995 Report

Quoted By: >>12563002

>>12562981
steel is cope. just wait till relativity 3d prints their next rocket out of carbon nanotubes. it will be uber strong, and weigh less than 100 grams

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:15:50 No.12563001 Report

Quoted By: >>12563010

>>12562992
No, don’t overthink it. The simple answer is: it isn’t California. These companies want to go to Texas because it has a huge economy like California, but the government isn’t gay and doesn’t try to take 90% of your profit to give to minorities and homeless fags

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:15:55 No.12563002 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562995
cool, have fun in the future

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:16:23 No.12563003 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562992
No, it still has a constitution and judiciary system, it's just designed to be toxic to career politicians and reduce the fallout in the scenario where the system stops working.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:17:17 No.12563005 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562992
not even close. It's an oligopol in which a couple of corporations get inmense favour by the goverment and the rest get butt fucked into the ground by regulations. Closer to a monarchy also, whoever thinks the us has a "free" economy is too ignorant to ever get educated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:18:18 No.12563010 Report

Quoted By: >>12563014

>>12563001
>but the government isn’t gay and doesn’t try to take 90% of your profit to give to minorities and homeless fags
bullshit, they buttfuck you if youre a small company, they still take 90% but it goes into the pockets of a few corporations, big fuckign difference

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:20:36 No.12563013 Report

Quoted By: >>12563386

I just want some spicy orange, bros, why is that so hard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:20:50 No.12563014 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563010
Do you live in Texas? Have you tried opening a business there? Or are you just a parrot for what you read on reddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:23:00 No.12563019 Report

Quoted By: >>12563021

>>12562981
I don't know what the purpose is but I find it funny that if you just naively took this chart you would think 304L is the lowest performer. Shows the import of context. In practise Starship started with 301 and 304L considerably outperforms it because 301 despite being stronger is more brittle especially at cryo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:23:49 No.12563021 Report

Quoted By: >>12563053 >>12563074

>>12563019
they're switching to 308

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:29:12 No.12563033 Report

Quoted By: >>12563039 >>12563042 >>12563065

>>12562983
Can't wait for you to be BTFO.
>>12562988
>the restriction is for unlimited is because SN9 will be travelling above regulated airspace
So is there separate terminology for orbital, counterintuitively, from unlimited?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:32:38 No.12563039 Report

Quoted By: >>12563076

>>12563033
Lurk moar and shut the fuck up until you know better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:34:07 No.12563042 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563033
this isn't the permit for where SN9 is allowed to fly
this is the warning telling people to stay the fuck out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:35:53 No.12563046 Report

Quoted By: >>12563059

> As of 2019, Texas had a gross state product (GSP) of $1.9 trillion, the second highest in the U.S.[257] Its GSP is greater than the GDPs of Brazil, Canada, Russia, South Korea and Spain, which are the world's 9th-, 10th-, 11th-, 12th- and 13th-largest economies, respectively.[258] Texas's economy is the second-largest of any country subdivision globally, behind California. Its per capita personal income in 2009 was $36,484, ranking 29th in the nation.

wtf texas is really anime overpowered mc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:38:07 No.12563053 Report

Quoted By: >>12563067

>>12563021
no

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:38:11 No.12563054 Report

Quoted By:

>>12562960

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:40:44 No.12563059 Report

Quoted By: >>12563070

>>12563046
Bruh have you ever seen Texas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:42:43 No.12563065 Report

Quoted By: >>12563066 >>12563076

>>12563033
Musk isn’t building a SSTO you fucking idiot. Even if they filled SS to the brim with fuel, it couldn’t reach low earth orbit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:43:36 No.12563066 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563065
Anon probably doesn't even know what SSTO stands for, the mouthbreather.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:43:53 No.12563067 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563053
yes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:44:38 No.12563070 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563059

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:46:19 No.12563072 Report

Quoted By: >>12563136

>attention all /fit/izens
>the zyzz-elect's first executive order is to increase the spin rate by 1 rpm
>complaints will be open on the station's bottom-most level
How would you respond?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:46:43 No.12563074 Report

Quoted By: >>12563731

>>12563021
Search brings up a paypiggy discussion, apparently they found a ring labeled SPX308. Talks about maximum heat tolerance. I'd expect to see a test tank if they're actually switching steels though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:46:49 No.12563075 Report

Quoted By: >>12563080

>>12562988
what's max altititude for Starship without Super Heavy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:47:13 No.12563076 Report

Quoted By: >>12563082 >>12563086 >>12563093 >>12563520

>>12563039
seethe
>>12563065
How fucking stupid are you? You ever heard of payload mass? A fully tanked Starship could easily reach orbit without payload -- and guess what? The prototypes wont exactly carry crew. Orbit is an incredibly low bar. The true challenge is reaching a transfer orbit, including payload of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:48:14 No.12563080 Report

Quoted By: >>12563090

>>12563075
above the karman line, suborbital
I don't know exactly how high because I don't know how exactly how heavy Starship is and how much thrust the engines make

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:48:59 No.12563082 Report

Quoted By: >>12563089

>>12563076
Wait even if Starship get to minimal orbit, will it have enough fuel to land?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:50:06 No.12563086 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563076
wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:51:56 No.12563089 Report

Quoted By: >>12563095 >>12563098

>>12563082
Starship could be used as a disposable vehicle if needed. This will be the flightplan for probe insertions into the outer system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:52:42 No.12563090 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563080
thrust of one raptor is 2,200 kN , weight is 1,500 kg
empy mass of starship is 180,000 kg , sn9 has 3 raptor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:54:12 No.12563093 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563076
If this is trolling then it's pretty good, if you're serious kys retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:54:45 No.12563095 Report

Quoted By: >>12563108

>>12563089
>ywn recover a derelict yeetship from the outer solar system for the space museum

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:56:16 No.12563098 Report

Quoted By: >>12563116

>>12563089
Starship without Super Heavy can't into space. Also terminologically it's kinda inconvenient that Starship can mean two things: only second stage and fisrt stage with second stage together

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 22:58:25 No.12563108 Report

Quoted By: >>12563112 >>12563116

>>12563095
Is there any interest in recovering old probes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:01:02 No.12563112 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563108
When the capability's there, why not? We're interested in what people's shit consisted of if it happened long enough ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:02:43 No.12563116 Report

Quoted By: >>12563133 >>12563157

>>12563108
I think we should pick the Voyagers up when it gets trivial enough. Which obviously wont be with Starship, though.
>>12563098
True. Maybe I overestimate the capabilities of Starship i.e. the first stage because I am not quite sure if all calculations on which I base my claim always make the separation between SS and SSSH.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:08:58 No.12563132 Report

Quoted By:

>>12560992
Starlifting. Steal its mass and turn it into a stupid amount of whatever the fuck you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:10:23 No.12563133 Report

Quoted By: >>12563135

>>12563116
SSSH, or S3HIP for convenience

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:12:28 No.12563135 Report

Quoted By: >>12563146

>>12563133
Star3hip, S3H

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:12:29 No.12563136 Report

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>>12563072
Based

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:15:31 No.12563146 Report

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>>12563135
>Star3hip
That sounds like a mumble rapper

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:21:22 No.12563157 Report

Quoted By: >>12563162 >>12563164 >>12563170

>>12563116
>pick the Voyagers up when it gets trivial enough.
Why tho? Just let them wander in space indiferently

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:23:17 No.12563162 Report

Quoted By: >>12563168

>>12563157
Eh, I guess the idea is romantic in a way, but I'd personally find it more interesting to look at it in a museum. Particularly as it'd be, what, 100 years until we have the tech to reach them. It'd be like looking at the ship Darwin travelled on by then.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:23:36 No.12563163 Report

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>>12562326
Sky is a garbage name, but Orion is pretty good. It's the name of a Greek demigod.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:23:44 No.12563164 Report

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>>12563157
>not dabbing on your foolish predecessors by taking their probe meant for the heavens right back where it started

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:24:59 No.12563168 Report

Quoted By: >>12563185

>>12563162
>technology will improve because I have faith in it

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:25:03 No.12563169 Report

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:25:41 No.12563170 Report

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>>12563157
Even better: Take them around the universe at speeds they were never meant to reach. Show them the stars and all the worlds you find.
Voyager would make one hell of a hood ornament.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:27:49 No.12563175 Report

Quoted By: >>12563198 >>12564248 >>12564251

The Earth has been Destroyed
All human life has disappeared..
The voyager 23 billiton light years far away..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELnn9V01EiI&t=3003s

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:30:48 No.12563183 Report

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>>12563169
An iron hybrid motor is fine, everything else is word salad.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:31:15 No.12563185 Report

Quoted By: >>12563190 >>12563205

>>12563168
Tech doesn't have to significantly improve. I am not hoping for fusion, just the infrastructure that allows for spacecraft powered by fission and ion drives (for constant vacuum propulsion. For gravity wells we'll still need chemical rockets until an elevator can be built). That way the outer system could probably be opened up with significantly shorter travel times (rather than the 10+ years you need to get to Pluto).

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:33:43 No.12563190 Report

Quoted By: >>12563596

>>12563185
ion drives seem unupgradable

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:35:56 No.12563198 Report

Quoted By: >>12564248

>>12563175
Man, any alien picking this up is gonna be confused as hell.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:39:39 No.12563205 Report

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>>12563185
Ion engines don’t have enough ISP for interstellar travel

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:46:20 No.12563210 Report

Quoted By: >>12563214 >>12563221 >>12563222

>>12562941
Retards think it isn’t just as much a Mexican filled hellhole as CA

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:49:50 No.12563214 Report

Quoted By: >>12563219

>>12563210
There is nothing wrong with Mexicans
>t. Mexican

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:50:11 No.12563217 Report

Quoted By: >>12563223 >>12563224 >>12563227 >>12563233 >>12563247 >>12563642 >>12564133

Looks like the fairing catch didn't go too well
https://youtu.be/gnt2wZBg89g

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:52:00 No.12563219 Report

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>>12563214
What does culero mean and why do mexican say culero so much

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:52:34 No.12563221 Report

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>>12563210
Texan Mexicans are infinitely better than California Mexicans.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:53:00 No.12563222 Report

Quoted By: >>12563236

>>12563210
Good. They can fuck off, we're full.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:53:07 No.12563223 Report

Quoted By: >>12563232

>>12563217
I think they should replace the falcon 9 second stage with a mini starship that delivers the pay load, does a reverse, closes the fairing halves and then lands with a big parachute after reentry

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:53:31 No.12563224 Report

Quoted By: >>12563226

>>12563217
I really thought they would have upgraded the nets after the last failure.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:55:02 No.12563226 Report

Quoted By: >>12563228

>>12563224
it could be something else other than the net. Parachute failure?

By the way how the hell do these things survive reentry anyways? Is it their "floaty" shape? I mean they're not made out of anything particularly heat resistant

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:56:05 No.12563227 Report

Quoted By: >>12563229

>>12563217
Fairing is part of falcon 9 second stage

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:56:23 No.12563228 Report

Quoted By: >>12563251

>>12563226
They don't re-enter, they separate sub orbital.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:57:17 No.12563229 Report

Quoted By: >>12563409

>>12563227
>Fairing is part of falcon 9 second stage?
forgot question mark

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:58:41 No.12563232 Report

Quoted By: >>12563234 >>12563241

>>12563223
Falcon 9 isn't big enough to carry a reasonable payload with a fully reusable upper stage, the reason Starship gets away with it is that Starship is FUCKHUGE

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:59:25 No.12563233 Report

Quoted By: >>12563646 >>12563662

>>12563217
They’ve wasted a lot of time and effort building fancy composite fairings that they hoped would give experience for them in their next carbon fibre rocket

Unfortunately that’s all abandoned and starship won’t use fairings at all

Fairings are essentially part of the first stage too, minimizing weight in them at huge cost is pointless

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jan 2021 23:59:28 No.12563234 Report

Quoted By: >>12563239

>>12563232
It's weird how many "hard problems in rocketry" are solved by big simple boosters.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:00:42 No.12563236 Report

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>>12563222
this. Don’t move here, all you transplants can hang.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:01:29 No.12563239 Report

Quoted By: >>12563414

>>12563234
Rockets benefit from the same square cube law that fleshbags hate

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:01:48 No.12563241 Report

Quoted By: >>12563263

>>12563232
Kek, gayway will just be a bloated multi billion dollar attachment for spacex ships

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:06:40 No.12563247 Report

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>>12563217
He didn't fly so good.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:07:12 No.12563248 Report

Quoted By: >>12563253

interesting. So that's why Starship has such a huge 2nd stage. Falcon 9 would look really weird with those proportions

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:08:25 No.12563251 Report

Quoted By: >>12563256 >>12563271

>>12563228
sorry for the pedantic question, but does "reentry" specifically refer to entering atmosphere at orbital velocity? Or simply returning past the karman line?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:08:51 No.12563253 Report

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>>12563248
Starship really seems to do everything right as far as reusable TSTOs go... except the landing legs so far. I hope those are fixed soon.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:09:59 No.12563256 Report

Quoted By: >>12563662

>>12563251
>, but does "reentry" specifically refer to entering atmosphere at orbital velocity?
Yes. It's an aerobrake maneuver rather than falling straight down. It's why orbital craft need TPS but New Shepherd doesn't.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:11:18 No.12563259 Report

Quoted By: >>12563265 >>12563293 >>12563346 >>12563662

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwQERHgqco

What do you think about this SLSS concept?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:14:18 No.12563263 Report

Quoted By: >>12563339

>>12563241
Imagine when the Orion capsule program is eventually cancelled, 30 billion spent for literally nothing

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:15:02 No.12563265 Report

Quoted By: >>12563296 >>12563307

>>12563259
I think expandable/inflatable stations better make use of Starship's lifting capabilities. SLSS is really more like an even bigger Starship without landing capabilities, a pure vacuum Starship that could be used to shuttle even larger amounts of people and more important cargos back and forth from already existing stations. With proper modular habitats you could build an incomparably larger space station in the same way the ISS, Mir, etc were assembled.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:17:32 No.12563271 Report

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>>12563251
I suppose you could apply the term just for passing the karman line, but if you care about the meaningful effects (compression heating) then speed is the important factor.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:20:05 No.12563280 Report

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>>12562520
Kerbal Launch System
KSA KERBIN/2022

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:23:15 No.12563289 Report

Quoted By: >>12563605 >>12564046 >>12564328

>>12562520
Falcon Heavy expendable has 2/3 of SLS's payload for less than the cost of a single RS-25. If you're confident in orbital automated docking capability you can demolish SLS on payload/$ to LLO. Pic related.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:24:22 No.12563293 Report

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>>12563259
If you're going to replace the actual starship module, go all the way and make the whole thing an inflatable. Could most likely get something comfortably capable of artificial gravity (especially if you emulate Martian gravity, say) in one go, then you have actual long-term crew capability with no assembly required.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:25:01 No.12563296 Report

Quoted By: >>12563313 >>12563608

>>12563265
You can actually build such a monstrous space station that nuclear power starts winning over solar arrays for keeping the lights on, even taking radiator mass into account. IIRC that crossover point happens at ~10MW.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:29:14 No.12563307 Report

Quoted By: >>12563337

>>12563265
Just send the Mexican welders up there to weld the sheet metal into a large habitat
These earth built habitats are wildly over engineered, a sheet of steel does not leak nor will be easily punctured if it has some foam on top to insulate

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:32:13 No.12563313 Report

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>>12563296
Not if you're around Earth. Around Mars probably, but in any case overall cost advantage would still go to solar. As you get out into the belt and Jupiter sphere of influence nuclear becomes desirable.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:41:37 No.12563337 Report

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>>12563307
Expando-habs are strictly superior from a mass/volume ratio, and in terms of long term durability, and in terms of radiation protection by mass. The raw material (aluminum or steel vs ballistic weave and insulation) cost does lean more towards tin can habs, but base material cost is not going to be the primary bottleneck for habs. I would want as much volume per launch as possible without ever having to do any extra work. Once you have some very large expando-hab stations established then it makes more sense to just ship up raw material and have it assembled into even larger pressurized volumes.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:41:56 No.12563339 Report

Quoted By: >>12563369

>>12563263
>Orion
>cancelled
Not going to happen. Big Jim knew what he was doing when he let ESA to build the service module for it, and modules for the Gateway.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:44:42 No.12563346 Report

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>>12563259
>no radiators
>no ports to dock multiple modules together

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:47:38 No.12563357 Report

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>>12562008
Anon. Mid-2030s is when ESA finally use their grasshopper data to put a Falcon 9 into production.
Starship takes another 15 years of prototypes and design work.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:53:35 No.12563369 Report

Quoted By: >>12563378

>>12563339
If it’s 2024 and starship is flying regularly they will have choice but to cancel Orion/SLS before it becomes a total embarrassment

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:57:11 No.12563375 Report

Quoted By: >>12563382

>>12562937
Why does this very specific image keep being so very relevant?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 00:58:57 No.12563378 Report

Quoted By: >>12563478

>>12563369
>implying Congress cares about that so long as green line go up on jobs in their district/state

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:00:39 No.12563382 Report

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>>12563375
Gremlins in the raptors, boomers in the bushes, the man in the high tower.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:01:42 No.12563386 Report

Quoted By: >>12563394 >>12563526

>>12563013

As long as Proton-M keeps on flying, spicy orange juice and clouds will be around for all to enjoy.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:03:12 No.12563394 Report

Quoted By: >>12563422 >>12563464

>>12563386
I thought that thing was cancelled. Its success rate is embarrassing.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:07:38 No.12563409 Report

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>>12563229
Yes, it's the tip of the rocket that encloses the actual payload. It gets dumped when they are out of the atmosphere. So that anon calling it "technically first stage" isn't far off.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:08:47 No.12563414 Report

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>>12563239
Fusion reactors really love their square cubes too.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:11:08 No.12563421 Report

Quoted By: >>12563456

I lost track. We are still waiting on a second static fire, right?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:11:23 No.12563422 Report

Quoted By: >>12563427 >>12564143

>>12563394

The heavier versions of Angara were supposed to replace the Proton-M years ago but delays and sluggishness of the Angara development forces the Russians to keep flying Proton.

It has indeed a troublesome failure rate but the last failure was in 2015 and has flown successfully ever since to be fair.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:13:01 No.12563427 Report

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>>12563422
Ah, well at least it's cute. Cheap too, about the only thing that outside SpaceX that comes close to F9 per kg.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:21:03 No.12563456 Report

Quoted By: >>12563462

>>12563421
correct. If things go well that and hop next week

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:22:40 No.12563458 Report

Quoted By: >>12563483

How good of an engineer was von Braun actually? It seems all he ever did was improve on the V-2 (Redstone, Juno, Jupiter). Even the Saturn I was a cluster of V-2 derived rockets with a cryogenic stage designed by Douglas on top.
People like Groettrup seem to be far more inventive.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:24:32 No.12563462 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563456
Thanks.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:24:41 No.12563464 Report

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>>12563394
Scott Manley made that video to eagerly. They even have commercial and ESA launches for it in the future.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:26:13 No.12563472 Report

Quoted By: >>12563611 >>12563612 >>12563633 >>12564293

I love how the plumes seem to merge. Only 1 set of shock diamonds in spite of 3 engines

btw is there an engine with a cooler looking plume than the raptor? Only possible contender I can't think of is a hydrolox engine like the RS-25, but the purple color of methalox beats it out imo

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:29:48 No.12563478 Report

Quoted By: >>12563490

>>12563378
They do care about embarrassment and it’s illegal for the government to just flagrantly pick the highest bidder

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:32:32 No.12563483 Report

Quoted By: >>12563494

>>12563458
Von Braun was obviously competent at engineering, but he truly excelled as an engineering manager. I don’t think the Saturn V could have been completed without him (at least in time to meet the 1970 deadline).

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:34:19 No.12563490 Report

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>>12563478
It's illegal for the government to do lots of the stuff it does on the daily, and it's only gotten more arrogant and flagrant about it as of late.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:35:03 No.12563494 Report

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>>12563483
and marketing

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:40:32 No.12563501 Report

Quoted By: >>12563507 >>12563515

>>12562981
>columbium carbide
what

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:46:19 No.12563507 Report

Quoted By: >>12563524

>>12563501
Don't mind, it's just americans being backwards like usual

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:50:02 No.12563515 Report

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>>12563501
Old name for niobium if memory serves

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:53:13 No.12563520 Report

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>>12563076
>A fully tanked Starship could easily reach orbit without payload
Except no, it can't. Starship with full tanks and no payload has ~9km/s delta V, but not enough TWR to actually launch into orbit. It would suffer EXTREME gravity losses and not end up reaching the ~7500 m/s minimum velocity to stay in orbit.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:54:28 No.12563524 Report

Quoted By: >>12563538 >>12563546

>>12563507
I’m sorry Europe is irrelevant.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:54:53 No.12563526 Report

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>>12563386
lewd, that is a nice upskirt shot.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:55:30 No.12563529 Report

Quoted By: >>12563541 >>12563542

Would it be possible to take a bunch of silicate rocks and do some weird shit to them and eventually turn them into water?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:59:37 No.12563538 Report

Quoted By: >>12563553

>>12563524
NASA would be sucking russian dick just as much as ESA to get up to the ISS if not for musk&spaceX.
And in a non spaceX timeline US manned space travel would end most likely with a bunch of astronauts burning alive on starliner.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 01:59:52 No.12563541 Report

Quoted By: >>12563562 >>12564144

>>12563529
If they're hydrated sillicates sure, just heat them to 350-600 ºC
>t. geologist

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:00:16 No.12563542 Report

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>>12563529
You can't get blood from a stone, anon.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:01:33 No.12563546 Report

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>>12563524
How many football fields is your waist across? Oh wait, it's handegg, not football

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:03:43 No.12563553 Report

Quoted By: >>12563567 >>12563585

>>12563538
>b-but what if SpaceX didn't exist
Yeah that'd suck, good thing it does. Why do euros bother with this pointless line of argument?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:06:30 No.12563562 Report

Quoted By: >>12563566 >>12563571 >>12563592

>>12563541
Yeah but I mean, like, can you turn the silicon into hydrogen? It’s all neutrons, protons, and electrons after all

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:08:04 No.12563566 Report

Quoted By: >>12563584 >>12563623

>>12563562
You're talking about a replicator from Star Trek, where you put matter and energy in and it rips that matter apart before putting it back together in a predetermined pattern. It and warpdrive are the handwavium that make the Star Trek post-scarcity future work.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:09:03 No.12563567 Report

Quoted By: >>12563620

>>12563553
Because the very notion of amerifats trying to steal the glory of a white man from south africa is hilarious as fuck.
And i bet even musk would spit in your face if he didnt need to give old space more ammo to destroy him.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:09:42 No.12563571 Report

Quoted By: >>12564150

>>12563562
Hypothetically maybe, but that such powers of transmutation are for from reach at the moment

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:13:34 No.12563584 Report

Quoted By: >>12563607

>>12563566
Also the magic gravity plating and inertial damping fields.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:14:05 No.12563585 Report

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>>12563553
Now look at the state of his reply and seriously ask yourself if he's worth interacting with any further.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:14:39 No.12563592 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563562
wouldn't that just be alchemy

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:15:38 No.12563596 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563190
The issue with ion drives is that they can only have a total thruster power equal to the power supply of your vehicle. This means that either thrust or Isp must suffer. You see, thrust depends mostly on mass flow rate, whereas Isp depends on energy per unit mass of propellant. If you have ten kilowatts, you can either get lots of thrust at shit Isp by throwing hundred kilogram slugs of material at low specific energy, OR you can throw micrograms of ionized gas at ridiculous velocities and thus great Isp but horrible thrust.
The ideal electric engine would still necessarily require massive power supplies in order to produce meaningful levels of thrust, no matter how efficient it was. An electric engine with zero efficiency losses is still gonna need hundred-megawatt-scale power supplies in order to achieve levels of thrust similar to a Raptor-sized chemical rocket, especially if it's also significantly more efficient.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:18:51 No.12563605 Report

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>>12563289
The fact that I forgot to write m/s next to 1790.86 will haunt me forever

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:20:17 No.12563607 Report

Quoted By: >>12563629

>>12563584
God yeah I forgot about those. At least there's hand wavy explanation of how the replicator and warp are supposed to work, but what about gravity plating? I don't even know how those are supposed to work in-universe, fucking magnets?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:20:24 No.12563608 Report

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>>12563296
That never occurs this close to the Sun, there is never a crossover point with scale. The crossover point only exists with increasing distance from the Sun.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:22:21 No.12563611 Report

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>>12563472
Green plume is pretty cool

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:22:55 No.12563612 Report

Quoted By: >>12563630

>>12563472
how is RS-25's plume considered cool, it's boring and hydrolox

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:26:21 No.12563618 Report

Quoted By: >>12563643 >>12564017 >>12564044

bruh look at this dude

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:26:39 No.12563620 Report

Quoted By: >>12563624

>>12563567
Elon Musk literally said America is the best country

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:27:48 No.12563623 Report

Quoted By: >>12563634 >>12563645

>>12563566
So you’re saying there’s literally no way for an atom to be broken down into smaller atoms or it’s constituents unless it’s radioactive???

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:28:49 No.12563624 Report

Quoted By: >>12563632

>>12563620
sweet summer child.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:29:59 No.12563629 Report

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>>12563607
Don't waste your time trying to figure out how literal fantasy technology works.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:30:03 No.12563630 Report

Quoted By: >>12563648

>>12563612
mainly because of the perfect mach diamond

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:31:08 No.12563632 Report

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>>12563624
bitter winter boomer

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:31:54 No.12563633 Report

Quoted By: >>12563637 >>12564309

>>12563472
Shuttlestack plumes are gorgeous so long as you don't have to breathe in the exhaust. That's going to be the one redeeming value of SLS, the launches will be pure kino as long as it doesn't RUD.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:31:58 No.12563634 Report

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>>12563623
the strong force holds atom nuclei together, it's called the strong force because it's very strong
because it's strong, it takes a lot of energy to pull apart for stable atoms

i'm not a physicist so i can't tell you if it's theoretically possible or if some other high-energy phenomenon interferes and prevents it from happening, but if it is possible, it's impractical to do

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:33:16 No.12563637 Report

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>>12563633
>the launches will be pure kino as long as it doesn't RUD.
I'm going to be so fucking pissed if SLS launch has standard NASA stream quality

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:34:17 No.12563642 Report

Quoted By: >>12563646 >>12563647 >>12563650 >>12563658 >>12563711

>>12563217
So why the fuck are fairings so expensive?
Literally just a shell that pops off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:34:42 No.12563643 Report

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>>12563618
kinda cringe but for real those who act succeed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:35:20 No.12563645 Report

Quoted By: >>12564312

>>12563623
No, retard. If you want a kilogram of hydrogen you're gonna need like 980 grams of silicon and several million gigajoules of energy. It would literally be thousands of times more energy efficient to send all your materials from another planet if you had no native source of that element.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:35:46 No.12563646 Report

Quoted By: >>12563660

>>12563642

>>12563233

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:36:03 No.12563647 Report

Quoted By: >>12563660

>>12563642
Al-Li gram-autism and reliable QD mechanisms to fall away from the rocket instead of crushing the payload.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:36:26 No.12563648 Report

Quoted By: >>12563717

>>12563630
>perfect mach diamond
yawn, shit sucks dude. Even proton's engine exhaust plumes look better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:36:41 No.12563650 Report

Quoted By: >>12563659 >>12563660

>>12563642
It's an enormous couple of pieces of carbon fiber. There's a bit more to it but "enormous piece of carbon fiber" covers a lot of dosh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:40:01 No.12563658 Report

Quoted By: >>12563660

>>12563642
Lots of fancy materials used. Fairings are at the nose of the F9, so its blasting through the atmosphere first. It has to protect the payload. That includes absorbing vibrations and shocks. They aren't just a metal cap, they are rather complex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:40:07 No.12563659 Report

Quoted By: >>12563723

>>12563650
Not just CFC, it's actually two layers of CFC with aluminum honeycomb between. It's a huge, complex-curve composite component which itself is made of more composites. Absolute nightmare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:41:09 No.12563660 Report

Quoted By: >>12563666 >>12563672 >>12563680

>>12563646
>>12563647
>>12563650
So it's basically just because they made it out of a way too expensive material?
If they just put a thin steel shell on top that used explosive bolts to shoot apart like a kinder egg would it become a negligible cost?
>>12563658
>They aren't just a metal cap
But could they be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:42:33 No.12563662 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563256
cool, thanks anon. I'll use the term correctly now

>>12563259
pretty cool. Might be easier to just throw a starship up there and vent/repurpose the tanks

>>12563233
>Fairings are essentially part of the first stage too, minimizing weight in them at huge cost is pointless
actually a really good point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:43:09 No.12563666 Report

Quoted By: >>12563667

>>12563660
>explosive bolts
>next to sensitive payloads
They use a big arm that shoves the two pieces away from one another, no reason not to stick with that for now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:43:41 No.12563667 Report

Quoted By: >>12563672 >>12563675

>>12563666
starship is gonna need some big pushers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:45:23 No.12563672 Report

Quoted By: >>12563675

>>12563660
Disposable fairings only make sense in the first place on disposable stages. The Shuttle, Buran, and Starship all have integral fairings because they are reusable. Shuttle fairings were also crazy expensive, but that's because they also contained the 300K crew compartment radiators inside the shell and needed to be stupid lightweight like everything else on the Shuttle. Starship fairings will be cheap because they'll just be hinged steel.

>>12563667
Starship fairings will probably use Tesla motors and batteries like the flaps do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:46:50 No.12563675 Report

Quoted By: >>12563678 >>12563686

>>12563667
For what? Starship doesn't have a fairing, it IS the fairing.
>>12563672
>Starship fairings
Where would you put them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:47:59 No.12563678 Report

Quoted By: >>12563682

>>12563675
Cargo Starship's "fairing" would technically be the half of the nose that flips open. Crew Starship will not have a fairing. If a satellite-repair-truck variant of Starship gets built it will be laid out like the Shuttle, with a cockpit up top and clamshell doors mid body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:48:59 No.12563680 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563660
I mean, that's what they're doing with Starship. F9 has two compounding problems, one it is a smaller rocket which has a disproportionate negative effect on dry mass relative to a larger one like Starship, and two it was designed almost ten years ago immediately on the heels of their first rocket meaning it has more influence from the status quo. It has a mix of design compromises from both of these factors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:49:19 No.12563682 Report

Quoted By: >>12563684

>>12563678
Oh I understand what you meant now, I was only thinking of Crew Starship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:50:30 No.12563684 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563682
Dream Chaser is going to have similar problems, with the cargo variant launching inside a fairing on a disposable-upper-stage rocket and the crew variant launching with no fairing to enable launch-abort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:50:34 No.12563685 Report

Quoted By: >>12563687 >>12563696 >>12563888

Will starship only have heat tiles on one side? Gonna look kinda silly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:50:57 No.12563686 Report

Quoted By: >>12563693

>>12563675
>Starship doesn't have a fairing, it IS the fairing.
correct. I was referring to Super Heavy/Starship staging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:51:00 No.12563687 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563685
The shuttle only had heat tiles on one side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:53:01 No.12563693 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563686
Oh that makes sense, I wonder if they'll just have a ring of them on top of superheavy to give Starship the 'ol shove off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:53:21 No.12563696 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563685
The two tone looks good in all the renders I've seen. Much better than all bare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:57:40 No.12563711 Report

Quoted By: >>12563729

>>12563642
The underlying reason is because fairings DO a lot more than to be 'just a shell'. Payload fairings protect the spacecraft from everything from thermals, contamination, acoustics, and electromagnetic interference, all while being strong enough not to crumple under aerodynamic loads, having to be light as fuck, and aerodynamic. They also allow payloads to communicate while encapsulated through radio. On top of that, they have to regulate the pressure to match surrounding conditions, from sea level to vacuum over the span of a few minutes, to avoid being blown out or crushed. Quite a lot that goes into these things when the payload is also fucking so expensive.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:58:35 No.12563717 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563648
I can dig it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 02:59:38 No.12563723 Report

Quoted By: >>12563879

>>12563659
>Absolute nightmare
exact words came to my mind reading your post. Seems off-character or spacex to design it that way

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:00:23 No.12563729 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563711
>On top of that, they have to regulate the pressure to match surrounding conditions, from sea level to vacuum over the span of a few minutes, to avoid being blown out or crushed
This is so simple and obvious that I can't believe I've never even thought about it before now, fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:01:03 No.12563731 Report

Quoted By: >>12563736

>>12563074
i am convinced that SN13 and SN14 are test tanks. One for 3mm and one for 308

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:03:31 No.12563736 Report

Quoted By: >>12563753

>>12563731
they're switching to 308 steel?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:11:55 No.12563753 Report

Quoted By: >>12563762

>>12563736
ah, perhaps I found my answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:14:54 No.12563762 Report

Quoted By: >>12563810

>>12563753
Yeah, most applications seem to be as welding material and specifically talks about use in 304/304L welds so I'm suspicious, but it was labeled on a ring and we do know they're working on their own formulation which SPX308 very well could be.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:24:05 No.12563786 Report

Quoted By: >>12563812 >>12563886

>reading up on Pulsed NTR after previous threads
>see this
That "heat sink" label might as well say BRAYTON CYCLE GENERATOR in large flashing letters because it's an obvious use, instead of radiating directly to space.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:28:30 No.12563793 Report

Quoted By: >>12563796 >>12563805 >>12563857

Elon is shitposting again.
>pinned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:30:23 No.12563796 Report

Quoted By: >>12563798

>>12563793
>inb4 he isn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:31:24 No.12563798 Report

Quoted By: >>12563820

>>12563796
The catapult chairs and parachutes are actually Crew Starship LAS prototypes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:35:13 No.12563805 Report

Quoted By: >>12563813 >>12563936

>>12563793
Imagine being a wagie welding shit in the high bay and you have fucking Reddit homos filming and staring at you all day from the tiki bar. Yikes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:37:00 No.12563810 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563762
the development is far enough along that they can afford to drop a million or whatever on a thousand tons of a custom batch of stainless.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:37:36 No.12563812 Report

Quoted By: >>12563840

>>12563786
Anon, raise the power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:38:31 No.12563813 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563805
>NSF buys one drink and spends the whole day sipping it and livestreaming the high bay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:40:49 No.12563820 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563798
SpaceX's trebuchet, called "Get Offa My Lawn" will see double-duty both launching bar patrons at Elon's cantina and hurling remaining Boca Chica residents into the sea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:49:50 No.12563840 Report

Quoted By: >>12563849 >>12563855 >>12563868 >>12563892

>>12563812
I never got around to watching that series. Worth it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:53:20 No.12563849 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563840
It's kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:54:40 No.12563855 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563840
Chernobyl is top tier

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:55:24 No.12563857 Report

Quoted By: >>12563903

>>12563793
N1 grid fins

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 03:59:46 No.12563868 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563840
Absolutely yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:04:33 No.12563879 Report

Quoted By: >>12563896

>>12563723
It's a decade-old design, at least it's built off of a decade old design. They could probably make a thin steel faring with welded stiffeners but honestly it would not be worth the development time and the effort of rolling in the new design. As with all things, SpaceX's answer is to just build Starship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:10:13 No.12563886 Report

Quoted By: >>12563898

>>12563786
You could have a brayton cycle generator working off that loop sure, but you're not running ALL of that heat through a generator. The only reason the pulsed NTR is even close to feasible is because it can use high temperature radiators. High temp radiators radiate vastly more heat per square meter, and therefore you need a much smaller radiator array to satisfy the cooling needs of the same heat source. However if you use all that heat to run a generator you're gonna drop the temp from over ~1000 C to maybe a hundred C, which is gonna need ~100x the radiator area and therefore ~100x the mass.
By all mean sure, run a 5 MWe generator off that loop, but your primary heat rejection needs to be high temperature if you're gonna have any hope of throwing away those gigawatts of heat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:10:51 No.12563888 Report

Quoted By: >>12563903

>>12563685
are they using the incanel? or whatever it's callled metal tiles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:12:07 No.12563892 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563840
Yes but keep in mind the typical dramatizations exist and a lot of the real facts get replaced with scarier/easier to understand shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:12:28 No.12563896 Report

Quoted By: >>12563907

>>12563879
hopefully their new falcon heavy fairing is less pointlessly extravagant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:12:45 No.12563898 Report

Quoted By: >>12563915

>>12563886
It seems amenable to a waterskiing design with engines up front. Point the small radiators forward, angle the engines off axis by 3°, hang the ship on a 500m tether behind, and your shadow shield mass is peanuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:15:51 No.12563903 Report

Quoted By: >>12563906 >>12563910

>>12563857
baste
>>12563888
Inconel is a family of nickel based alloys. Starship won't be using inconel tiles, it's using a reinforced silica thermal tile design cooked up by SapceX, a tougher and more manufacturable version of TUFROC-like material, which itself is a tougher and more manufacturable version of the old Shuttle tiles.
Again, to reiterate; Starship's heat shield is made from silica tiles. NOT metallic tiles. Not PICA-X either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:16:41 No.12563906 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563903
ahh cool thanks mate, was just curious

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:16:56 No.12563907 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563896
Wouldn't count on it, it's not a high volume item so they have no reason to skimp on it and they by all rights should be minimizing R&D on F9/FH right now in order to focus on Starship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:17:58 No.12563910 Report

Quoted By: >>12563921

>>12563903
>silica
Carbon. Unless something new came up but I doubt it because silica tiles would be a step back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:22:26 No.12563915 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563898
What? I'm not talking about heat that soaks into the vehicle, I'm talking about the heat removed from the engine core by the lithium.
In pulsed NTR, the heat of fission is NOT what actually heats the hydrogen propellant. The hydrogen is heated directly by the neutron flux of the reactor core, which allows the hydrogen to reach temperatures far beyond the temperature of the actual solid nuclear fuel, hence the massive performance gains. However, MOST of the energy produced in a reactor comes from fission heat, which basically means that if you want to bombard your hydrogen propellant with a gigawatt-thermal of neutron flux, you are going to need your lithium coolant to handle a flux of over ten gigawatts thermal from fission. THAT massive heat load is what I'm talking about when I say the high temperature radiators are a fundamental requirement.
As for tractor propulsion, really that's got nothing to even do with propulsion method, it has everything to do with your vehicle's mass and more specifically its wet-dry mass ratio. Setting everything up to 'hang' in tension under thrust rather than get pressed by compression means you can use much lighter structures and avoid having your vehicle accordion up. If you wanted to build a rocket that could reach 5% light speed you'd probably to tractor style propulsion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:25:53 No.12563921 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563910
They're not carbon, dude. Also, as I said, the silica tiles that SpaceX uses are at least third generation in terms of silica based TPS, they are not Shuttle tiles and they're not X-37B tiles either, they're something newer and better. As evidenced by the way they are applied and the forces we've seen them take, they may as well be bricks in terms of toughness compared to shuttle tiles, plus they're WAY larger, like easy 25x the area of a shuttle tile. Definitely not a step back.
I'm not sure where you even heard carbon anyway, because Elon has never once talked about carbon in terms of TPS except in reference to PICA-X, which builds up a black layer of carbon on its exterior as it ablates, which slows ablation (but does not stop it).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:26:21 No.12563923 Report

Quoted By: >>12563929 >>12563937

R8 diagram for a plasma sail experiment probe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:27:58 No.12563929 Report

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>>12563923
Is it supposed to fly right to left? The plasma magsail generates a kilometers wide field so you'll get pointed away from the sun when you turn it on.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:31:56 No.12563936 Report

Quoted By: >>12563940 >>12563946

>>12563805
>someone's exhibitionist girlfriend goes to the tiki bar in a skirt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:32:58 No.12563937 Report

Quoted By: >>12563944

>>12563923
>radio thermal generator generator
I'll buy that for a texas dollar

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:34:51 No.12563940 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563936
Sickos? More like red blooded men

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:37:35 No.12563944 Report

Quoted By: >>12564003 >>12564008

>>12563937
Does it spontaniously generate RTGs from within? Like the mythical Finnish sampo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 04:38:22 No.12563946 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563936
>nopan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 05:05:26 No.12564003 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563944
It’s a wormhole to another universe where runaway baryogenesis led to every square meter being stuffed with decaying ultra-heavy elements

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 05:08:01 No.12564008 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563944
It's like the allspark, you release its energy near mechanical devices and it'll turn them into RTGs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 05:12:26 No.12564017 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563618
>Stage 1: Bargaining

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 05:28:40 No.12564044 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563618
Do you think Estronaut is mad MrBeast was invited but not himself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 05:29:54 No.12564046 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563289
I wonder if a lengthened falcon 9 second stage could be made that has a connecting port that gets exposed upon orbital insertion.
Would be a lot more simple than developing a new kickstage, although a lot less efficient as well probably.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 05:48:01 No.12564075 Report

Quoted By: >>12564134

>>12562214

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:09:39 No.12564133 Report

Quoted By: >>12564135

>>12563217
Maybe SpaceX should just redesign the fairings to be made out of aluminum. I'm sure that would be cheaper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:10:03 No.12564134 Report

Quoted By:

>>12564075
Hello? Based department?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:10:33 No.12564135 Report

Quoted By:

>>12564133
Falcon dev is basically maintenance mode now. Starship is where all the R&D bux go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:11:57 No.12564143 Report

Quoted By: >>12564147

>>12563422
Also the fairings weren't the fault of Proton itself, but instead was the fault of dumb vatniks installing important components upside down.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:12:58 No.12564144 Report

Quoted By: >>12564175

>>12563541
Can I heat my asbestos sample and then drink the cancer juice that drips out? Would that be a good idea?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:13:59 No.12564147 Report

Quoted By:

>>12564143
Meant to type failures, not fairings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:15:22 No.12564150 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563571
Nigga just bombard that shit with neutrons.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:25:32 No.12564175 Report

Quoted By: >>12564191

>>12564144
Pic related stolen from Wikipedia. Presuming you have chrysotile asbestos and provided you fully react the stuff and filter out the forsterite (which is harmless but crunchy) you should have some perfectly potable water. The reactions for the other asbestos minerals should be relatively similar with probably similarly benign mineral products, basic sillicates or feldspars would be my guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:32:09 No.12564191 Report

Quoted By: >>12564202 >>12564203

>>12564175
Why would I want to filter out the crunch? You won't know that you're drinking asbestos water without the crunch.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:38:46 No.12564202 Report

Quoted By:

>>12564191
I hope you like the idea of dealing with sand in your shits abrading the walls of your anal sphincter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:38:51 No.12564203 Report

Quoted By:

>>12564191
This sounds like marketing material from hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:47:28 No.12564217 Report

Quoted By: >>12564228

there's an actual catapult in boca? what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:52:26 No.12564228 Report

Quoted By: >>12564244

>>12564217
Yeah, the catgirls have to get to the high bay tittybar somehow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:57:30 No.12564244 Report

Quoted By:

>>12564228
Just cover the outside of the high bay in carpeting so they can climb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 06:59:36 No.12564248 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563175
>>12563198
At least they didn't put "My Ding-a-Ling" by Chuck Berry on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:01:38 No.12564251 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563175
the guy in spanish stutters and interrupts himself, they didnt even try

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:03:58 No.12564255 Report

Quoted By: >>12564261 >>12564271

damn this general has really grown, we're easily reaching into the 600's now every thread, managed to pass 700 this time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:10:02 No.12564261 Report

Quoted By:

>>12564255
that's what happens when you have a company that tries to have a sci fi future with reasonably cheap access to the whole solar sytem VS one big corrupt goverment-corporation which repeats space is hard as a mantra for doing things that have been done 50 years ago taking twice the money and three times the schedule to achieve something thats worse than the original

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:19:10 No.12564271 Report

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>>12564255
Mostly reddit migration unfortunately.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:26:18 No.12564285 Report

Quoted By: >>12564289 >>12564292 >>12564303 >>12564455

>>12562624
elon named one of his son's "saxon"

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:26:50 No.12564289 Report

Quoted By:

>>12564285
Okay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:28:24 No.12564292 Report

Quoted By:

>>12564285
Bæsed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:29:12 No.12564293 Report

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>>12563472
remember these are raptors throttled down to low power

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:36:54 No.12564303 Report

Quoted By: >>12564310 >>12564351 >>12564354

>>12564285
The competition for daddy's love must have wrecked those boys psyche, in a couple of years when they are a bit more grown up and elon musk is literally emperor of a planet no amount of money will be enough to bury their psychological issues, it will be like child actors+prince henry on steroids

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:38:19 No.12564307 Report

Quoted By:

>SN11 and SN15 in the midbay
where were you when you realized SpaceX axed SN12 13 and 14?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:38:34 No.12564309 Report

Quoted By:

>>12563633
>as long as it doesn't RUD
why the fuck not? it will be an extremely pretty and smoke dense explosion, no one will die and it will mean the end of billions upon billions of dollars that were getting literally set on fire and transfered to starship or to nuclear propulsion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:39:01 No.12564310 Report

Quoted By: >>12564312

>>12564303
Half his sons will probably end up betraying him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:39:48 No.12564312 Report

Quoted By: >>12564357

>>12563645
so a kilogram of hydrogen is heavier than a kilogram of matter?

>>12564310
>Half his sons will probably end up betraying him
holy shit, this will be IRL warhammer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:47:52 No.12564328 Report

Quoted By: >>12564331 >>12564361

>>12563289
>has 2/3 of SLS's payload
FH has the same upper stage, fairings and adapter as F9, it can't lift shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:49:44 No.12564331 Report

Quoted By:

>>12564328
SLS Block 1 is that anemic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:54:22 No.12564343 Report

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Rainy in boca

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:56:34 No.12564351 Report

Quoted By: >>12564363

>>12564303
Sounds kino, based war of secession for the throne of Mars

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:57:49 No.12564354 Report

Quoted By: >>12564363

>>12564303
Having tons of kids was the norm for millions of years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 07:59:06 No.12564357 Report

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>>12564312
No, when hydrogen is fused into heavier elements the resulting elements mass less than the hydrogen that was originally used to fuse into that element. This is what mass-conversion-to-energy does, and it's what powers the Sun. For example, imagine a free proton (aka ionized hydrogen) has a mass of 1, and you look at a carbon 12 atom, with its six protons and six neutrons. The mass of the carbon 12 nucleus is LESS than the mass of 12 free protons.

A kilogram of hydrogen masses exactly the same as a kilogram of anything else. However, since joining protons into heavier nuclei converts some mass to energy, a million nuclear particles bound together as iron will mass significantly less than a million hydrogen atoms.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:00:23 No.12564361 Report

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>>12564328
This is already known to be wrong and also if that were the case it wouldn't matter anyway because redesigning an adapter that can take 64 tons is not a difficult problem.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:01:18 No.12564363 Report

Quoted By: >>12564382

>>12564351
>>12564354
biologically yes, but you dont reocgnize most of them. dna tests really fucked up the social fabric.

Altough, most of these kids were born into richness and will probably be spoilt brats, except maybe the sr-71 one he was born into this meme shit, the others must be like arnold schwarzeneger mother raised soon who is just a fat slob enjoying their rain of money.

it will come to a fight between the sr-71 kid and the lawyers of the other ones

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:06:48 No.12564382 Report

Quoted By: >>12564401

>>12564363
>sr-71 kid
who?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:09:04 No.12564386 Report

Quoted By: >>12564397 >>12564437 >>12564454 >>12564474 >>12564511 >>12564659

I'm scared bros. Elon wont be CEO of SpaceX forever. Shotwell can succeed him, but only for a time. Will the industry be far enough along to ensure we never go back to the dark days before cheap spaceflight? Way too much depends on Elon, too much at stake. Fucking hate Bezos, why can't he get his ass in gear??

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:12:45 No.12564397 Report

Quoted By: >>12564454

>>12564386
Bezos is busy censoring the internet, no time for rockets sweaty

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:14:09 No.12564401 Report

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>>12564382
Æsh

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:23:07 No.12564437 Report

Quoted By:

>>12564386
SpaceX just needs to survive for the next like 5 years before Starship and its architecture becomes the industry standard, at which point nothing will stop the tsunami of space startups launching shit to various celestial bodies at a pittance compared to launch costs now. We're exceedingly close

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:27:54 No.12564454 Report

Quoted By: >>12564465 >>12564476 >>12564494

>>12564386
>>12564397
I'm convinced bezos will step away from amazon to focus on blue origin, but idk. maybe he's actually just not interested in space, or it's one of those things where he likes the fantasy but the technical work to make it real bores him to tears

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:27:56 No.12564455 Report

Quoted By: >>12564496

>>12564285
>Who's your daddy?
>Just richest man in the world.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:30:42 No.12564465 Report

Quoted By: >>12564494

>>12564454
>I'm convinced bezos will step away from amazon to focus on blue origin, but idk.
I think he's going to cash out right before they get antitrusted and the retail half gets split from AWS.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:34:17 No.12564474 Report

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>>12564386
>Way too much depends on Elon, too much at stake.
dont worry, he must have negotiated the pwoer transition with the powers that be.

His actions as made public, have the potential to make people who in the past literally have no problem aproving mass torture of children to make an extra couple hundred thousand dollars (arms dealers/industral military complex) lose literally around 50-100 billions in profit.

There's just no way he could mess with such powerful people so badly and not get his whole family tortured to shreds while he watches.

Seriously, this is like pablo escobar times 200000, the corrupt old space is a machine that turns air into money, whatever hes doing he negotiated with them, its just not physically possible that he just opted to casually screw over the profits of the billionaire sadists with no respect for human life and hope it all turns out well

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:34:45 No.12564476 Report

Quoted By: >>12564507

>>12564454
Pretty sure BO is just a vanity project for Bezos

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:41:19 No.12564494 Report

Quoted By: >>12564510 >>12564723

>>12564454
>>12564465
Jeff bezos is gonna get cucked by another woman, mark my words, he already lost half his fortune to his wife, he's a tech leader and coujldnt avoid his creepy messages from damagin his pr, he cant handle his women and cant keep it in his pants, its a matter of time before hes working two shifts as an amazon stock boi to raise tyrone's children.

Elon musk on the other hand has like 10 different families, none of them make public scandals, none of them have any way of syphoning his money or even demand it of him, they literally respect him as the master god-patriarch of his lineage.
He even has a left wing girlfriend and manages to do whatever he wants to her and act all right wing and stuff without consequence

its the equivalent of a frat boi jock who gets a hot vegan hippie girlfriend and is so hot and alpha that he can act in the most chauvinistic patriarchal way and shes so turned on by it she renounces her left ideals live.

Musk: haha fuck nigs, take the red pill (not the tranny ones) jews control the media
Grimes: ohh you dont really mean that erase those tweets please
Musk: shut the fuck up bitch i wont delete shit, get on all fours im gonna put a baby in that pussy, shits gonna be cash, BTW fuck your peace and love bullshit were naming our baby after a FIGHTER PLANE AMERICA #1
grimes: nn--nnno, peace is important OH FUCK ME DADDY IM YOUR LITTLE CUM SLUT BITCH ABUSE ME MENA RE SUPERIOR IM YOUR SLAVE BREEDING SLUT IMPREGNATE ME... can we at least name it after a spy plane instead?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:42:08 No.12564496 Report

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>>12564455
*two worlds

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:45:35 No.12564507 Report

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>>12564476
>vanity project for Bezos
this, ive seen it time and again in many areas. Rich people just throwing money with no effort at stuff to feel good tend to fail. Most likely result is that they get conned by someone, because they dont understand the thing theyre trying to fund. veeery rarely an autist who loves the cause more than his own well being tends to swoop in and grabt he cash. but this is really exceptionally really rare.

Ive seen this mechanic firsthand both in charity and research projects. Spaceflight is a small enough business that probably no cases exist, either the guy who puts the money understands whats happening (musk) or hes just pumping money into some con artists that will keep syphoning it out of him because hes literally unable to understand what expense is justified and which one isnt (bezos)

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:48:30 No.12564510 Report

Quoted By: >>12564522

>>12564494
True but he seriously lucked out only barely avoiding the Amber Heard succubus taking all his shit. Although fucking her and making Johnny Depp seethe was bretty magnificent though.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:49:00 No.12564511 Report

Quoted By: >>12564518 >>12564527

>>12564386
Blue Origin is doing exactly what Bezos set out to do, which is buy himself into the aerospace prime market

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:53:23 No.12564518 Report

Quoted By: >>12564540

>>12564511
Oddly enough Project Kuiper (Amazon's LEO megaconstellation project) is a more reasonable project than BO, since it provides the same sort of feedback loop for Amazon that Starlink gives to SpaceX.
>have in-house satcoms
>can route company traffic across it without ever touching the public internet
>easier boot-strapping of the earlier phases of building an AWS region
>any building in bumfuck nowhere with electricity and a clear sky is now viable as a fulfillment center
>(new post-COVID) white collar employees can be given ground stations for telecommuting

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:55:07 No.12564522 Report

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>>12564510
>Although fucking her and making Johnny Depp seethe was bretty magnificent though.
yeah but you can only lose if you deal with the devil

Oh im gonna fuck this slutty girl who is willing to betray her current man for fun, who obviously bullied him into beating her so she could later millk him for more money, id fuck her to show her, ill even marry her away from him.

This is very basic logic that most coomers cant understand, if you fuck someone whos cheating on her husband/bf then there's an almost certain chance she will do it to you. There's no excuse, no situation, no nothing, whoever doesnt respect their current partner wont ever respect any partner

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 08:58:02 No.12564527 Report

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>>12564511
>Blue Origin is doing exactly what Bezos set out to do, which is buy himself into the aerospace prime market
its trying but its really far from succeding

>hey im gonna make this reusable spaceship, im told this is the future
>ok, its gonna cost 50 times more to develop and take 4 more time than starship and even then it will be 10 times more expensive to operate and will hvae a lower payload capacity, but at least its something
>ok fuck that, were just doing the engine for now
>ok so, hear me out, this engine is really impresive you absolutely have to pay me for this, only thing is it doesnt work, but when it does it will be fantastic!

next logical step is him crying and wondering why he didnt spend it on an epic amount of vip hookers.

Like you could have michelle obama and angela merkel do a a combined strip dance and then act out an incest fantasy with full permission to record it and send out a free copy of them with every amazon purchase for you if thats your thing for some reason but that amount of money gets it done

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:03:39 No.12564540 Report

Quoted By: >>12564564

>>12564518
>Oddly enough Project Kuiper (Amazon's LEO megaconstellation project) is a more reasonable project than BO, since it provides the same sort of feedback loop for Amazon that Starlink gives to SpaceX.
sounds like shit, its entirely dependant on the launch costs, starlink will buttfuck all competition out of the air. It would be hilarious tough if elon musk slowly started to eat on amazons profit by his own online sales company. God knows he will at first own the only company that can deliver you stuff to anywhere in the solar system, say you need another hab module for your LLO station? you buy it from SpaceXmarket, they accept paypal Us dollars and mars credits.

From there on he starts importing his stuff from orbit to the earth. Hey, who wants a perfectly functioning replacement organ grown in 0g, surely theres no market for that right?
oh and plus he starts the most extremely fast delivery system for physical objects that exists alonge with e2e passenger transport.

fromt here on he just needs to gradually start adding products some money to start it up, send some hookers to marry bezos and take his fortune et voila, he will totally buttfuck his competition good.

elon musk will face a monopoly trial in the next 10-20 years mark my words there will be a point in which someone will realize the obscene amount of power he has, it may or may not be too late to stop it by then

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:09:58 No.12564564 Report

Quoted By: >>12564568

>>12564540
If he has that kind of money and space infrastructure it will be way too late to stop him. 100% he will have some secret weapons development labs to get earth governments to fuck off with WMD deterrents.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:10:53 No.12564568 Report

Quoted By: >>12564578 >>12564584

>>12564564
you mean like throwing rocks

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:14:21 No.12564578 Report

Quoted By: >>12564583 >>12564642

>>12564568
Not practical unless you have fantasy drives. Much easier to dust the planet with chemicals or radioactive shit.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:15:30 No.12564583 Report

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>>12564578
you don't need to sterilize the planet, you just need to blow up whoever's giving you bullshit
for example, Richard Shelby's house

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:15:56 No.12564584 Report

Quoted By: >>12564602

>>12564568
Filling GEO with a ring of sharp gravel (like, say, Martian regolith) would be crippling.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:21:27 No.12564602 Report

Quoted By: >>12564606

>>12564584
two things:
Martian Regolith isn't sharp
hypersonic impactors (see: gravel in a retrograde orbit intersecting GEO)

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:22:47 No.12564606 Report

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>>12564602
uh whoops, I spent so long trying to find a replacement for the word "intersecting" that I forgot to finish that though
the end of the sentence was "don't need to be sharp"

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:27:44 No.12564621 Report

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pic related: the gainzstation zyzz-elect ordering the spin rate to be increased

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:36:08 No.12564642 Report

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>>12564578
Yes practical with any engine. You don't need to accelerate the rocks, just nudge a gigantic one that's already close to an intersection orbit. It already has all the potential energy it needs to make a Manhattan.sized hole where Manhattan is

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:42:34 No.12564659 Report

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>>12564386
>Way too much depends on Elon, too much at stake
Seriously how has this man managed to convince you dorks that he's some messiah when Tom Mueller was doing most of the heavy lifting

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:43:30 No.12564665 Report

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>>12564661
>>12564661
>>12564661
>>12564661

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 09:44:53 No.12564668 Report

Quoted By: >>12564780

Isn't there already one at >>12564652 ?

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 10:17:48 No.12564723 Report

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>>12564494
hot

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 10:25:38 No.12564731 Report

Quoted By: >>12564733

>>12562326
>sky
Not a bad name, quite traditional in parts of Europe
>Orion
Pronounced O-Ryan? Not bad at all compared to brandyllyn and chad in America.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 10:26:28 No.12564733 Report

Quoted By: >>12564735

>>12564731
my coworker is named Treyvarious

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 10:27:12 No.12564735 Report

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>>12564733
In a vacuum Orion does sound a little odd, but in America It's a good unique. Honestly if you're going to hate a guy it seems like a weird thing to hate him for.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jan 2021 10:55:25 No.12564780 Report

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>>12564668
It's so fun when faggot OPs are in such a hurry to be a faggot that they can't be bothered to post a link in the old thread.

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