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Euthanasia

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 00:00:22 2021 No.12545695 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12545711 >>12545712 >>12545754 >>12545797 >>12545811

Why isn't Euthanasia legal in every country yet? Life would be much more enjoyable if you had an escape route all the time. Why make life worse than it is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:05:41 No.12545711 Report

Quoted By: >>12545720 >>12545972

>>12545695
I'm glad you asked. It's because a terminally-ill patient is an absolute cash cow for a hospital. All of those futile treatments make a fortune for them. That's why the AMA opposes it, and that's why the churches (who invest heavily in hospitals) oppose it. Nothing to do with morality. As usual, it's all about the cash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:06:00 No.12545712 Report

Quoted By: >>12545766

>>12545695
Opposition to euthanasia comes from moral, ethical, and religions grounds (mostly). While there is a few nations that have legalized it, others are still working out the questions, like "Can we accept this pre-signed document which says to euthanize the signatory when they're no longer mentally capable" or "What's the definition of mentally capable?" The only countries that haven't legalized it but might all have bigger priorities compared to this, which isn't the most politically appealing thing either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:08:09 No.12545720 Report

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>>12545711
This is a great point as well. Hope is priceless and families with the means will pay anything to keep their braindead grandparent alive for just a few more months or even weeks. Read into medical ethics or "bioethics" if you're interested in this topic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:19:25 No.12545754 Report

Quoted By: >>12545782

>>12545695
>want to get rid of someone
>make it look like suicide
>"suicide isn't illegal so there's nothing to investigate here"
that's reason 1
>desire to die is not considered to be rational
that's reason 2
>"""do no harm""" (Hippocratic oath)
that's reason 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:22:42 No.12545766 Report

Quoted By: >>12545779

>>12545712
>Opposition to euthanasia comes from moral, ethical, and religions grounds (mostly)
Horseshit. That's the lie. It's about the cash, nothing more, nothing less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:26:39 No.12545779 Report

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>>12545766
I can respect your cynicism and have no way of knowing if I'm wrong, but I think there might be more to it. In the least, they're using politicians and the media to hide the profit motive behind "ethical and moral reasons."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:28:18 No.12545782 Report

Quoted By: >>12545787

>>12545754

What has murder and making it look like suicide to do with Euthanasia?
There will always be an investigation lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:30:20 No.12545787 Report

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>>12545782
>There will always be an investigation lol
An investigation by the very murderers ain't too useful though...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:33:45 No.12545797 Report

Quoted By: >>12545803

>>12545695
Yeah that way instead of taking care of your parents who have given you so much love through your life you can kill them and empty their pockets straight away.
Or if you want to euthanasia yourself and to throw away everything your parents have granted you, euthanasia is fine!
I understand everyone knows hardships, but one must always keep on believing no matter what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:37:02 No.12545803 Report

Quoted By: >>12545847

>>12545797

Stop with your hope bullshit lmao suffering is suffering no matter how you look at it. Nobody wants to suffer, you wouldn't give a shit about anyone else including your parents if you suffer endlessly, if your parents really love you than they should understand your choice and support you. Death isn't as bad as you make it look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:41:16 No.12545811 Report

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>>12545695
post natal abortion is still abortion, and abortion is immoral.
then again, "my body my choice"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:51:17 No.12545847 Report

Quoted By: >>12545894

>>12545803
False, suicide on impulse is understandable, taking advantage of someone's mental state to euthanise him "to end his suffering" is cold blooded murder and will lead this degenerate world further down the road to Hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 00:57:54 No.12545873 Report

Quoted By: >>12545933

Euthanasia is intrinsically evil. Consider:

insurance companies offering it as an alternative to expensive treatments.

Pressure on older people to "not be a burden" when euthanasia is available".

The (growing) trend of young people seeking euthanasia for mental health problems.

The pressure put on the disabled by their families to undergo euthensia.

Normalising and making suicide acceptable (and therefore more common).

Etc etc

Remember the Hippocratic oath: first, do no harm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:02:06 No.12545894 Report

Quoted By: >>12545935

>>12545847
This is exactly the type of dishonest garbage we get from the church. They just can't stop lying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:08:51 No.12545921 Report

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And which part exactly is dishonest? Everything I stated is fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:12:42 No.12545933 Report

Quoted By: >>12545938

>>12545873
>not wanting to be a burden is evil

Well maybe wanting to live while contributing nothing is evil too? Remember every 90 year old mental absent geriatric you feed is one less homeless person or starving child. Probably multiples of them, accounting for medical costs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:13:26 No.12545935 Report

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>>12545894
Enjoy this modern atheistic, materialistic, antichristian world then my friend.

For a world full of truths, this one sure seems rather corrupt and full of self-righteous preachy elitists who consider themselves above religious people despite claiming to be "for equality".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:15:03 No.12545938 Report

Quoted By: >>12545949

>>12545933
Excuses, excuses.
Excess food is wasted every year, yet you still claim that we need to euthanize people so you can feed them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:18:40 No.12545947 Report

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That's not how the world works I'm afraid.

1. We already produce enough food to feed 10 billions, the distribution system is the issue. There should be no problem feeding the elderly if people got their shit together.

2. They didnt produce nothing, they worked for 68 years before retiring if born in my country.

3. Just because you can't do physical labour doesn't mean your worthless. There is a lot of value of older people's knowledge and they have social value.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:19:45 No.12545949 Report

Quoted By: >>12545998

>>12545938
>Excess food is wasted every year,
That in itself is an excuse

How is there anything good about wanting to live pointlessly or bad/evil about eliminating unneccesary resource expenditure, not to mention suffering

Honestly I just paid attention to how all my older family died. The healthy ones went from moving around to death very quickly without intervention. The unhealthy ones suffered for years and made their families suffer for years while leeching all the money that could have gone to the grandchildren in medical costs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:23:32 No.12545962 Report

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No life is pointless -- everybody has value and you and I are no better than anybody else just because we are (assumedly) young.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:26:36 No.12545972 Report

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>>12545711
Fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:28:58 No.12545979 Report

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No life is pointless my man, just because you cant do physical labour doesn't mean you don't have value.

Plus these are people you are talking about, not investments. They are not a "resource drain" anyway, pensions are paid based on their previous tax contributions in this country -- their young selves directly support their old selves in this country. You'd swear they were taking food out of your mouth they way you are talking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jan 2021 01:34:47 No.12545998 Report

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>>12545949
Sorry if I'm being rude and mean, but how much did you care about those older family members?
Even if an old man I loved became retarded and a "leech" as you say, I would give him as much love as I can, since spending time with a loved one's very last years are the most precious memories you can make.

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