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Everything is easy to learn

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 10:03:11 2021 No.12543477 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12543489 >>12543509 >>12543510 >>12544208 >>12544213 >>12544349 >>12544384

The only thing that college has really taught me is that all subjects are piss easy to learn.
Only reason something is considered "difficult" is because elitist gatekeepers wrote the books in a non-normie-friendly language.
>He's such a good teacher! Now I understand everything easily!
Good teachers are those capable of undoing this bullshitery and explain things in they're true nature.
Discuss

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 10:09:17 No.12543489 Report

Quoted By: >>12544150

>>12543477
>they're
seems like english is not that easy to learn huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 10:19:14 No.12543509 Report

Quoted By: >>12543608

>>12543477
yes, good teachers can explain the core concepts of subjects without all the bullshit
there certainly are some elitist gatekeepers too, however it's worth pointing out that this is really how the non-normie-friendliness arises from the need for rigour and precision, and once you understand the fundamental concepts, it is entirely understandable so doesn't seem illogical at all to have the non-normie-friendly language
there is no concern for whether it will make it easier to learn or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 10:20:03 No.12543510 Report

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>>12543477
True. There are natural progressions of concepts that make historical sense. A typical example is the concept of curvature people talk about in Spacetime. Its study started with simple surfaces in 3d space like spheres, but math books say "old news" and jump ahead to general n-dimensions despite the revolutionary nature of the concepts. Took centuries to understand

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 11:29:47 No.12543608 Report

Quoted By: >>12544122

>>12543509
That's still gatekeeping tho, undestanding should come first and rigour and precision later

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 15:41:54 No.12544122 Report

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>>12543608
This is true I think, teachers should teach for understanding and intuition and then formalize concepts. On the other hand, it is really easy in math to just learn a bunch of rules by rote without understanding them and then to apply them like a robot. You can't actually create anything new this way and probably can't adapt to new situations or model any new scenario but you can learn how to do something like calculus really fucking fast this way and you can probably solve most problems pretty easily just from learning by rote.

I try to do both methods, learn by rote and then "philosophize" on the concept later but so far with most concepts I've mastered with this method I've already known a little bit about the concept earlier so I already had some intuition. I therefore am not entirely sure how this method would work with a concept I have absolutely no intuition for.

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 16:08:15 No.12544150 Report

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>>12543489
is they're incorrect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 16:10:28 No.12544155 Report

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>>12544150
no your right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 16:39:23 No.12544208 Report

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>>12543477
I agree. I'm teaching myself pure math and some economics. These two subjects put me on my ass in college. Professors are a scame

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 16:44:29 No.12544213 Report

Quoted By: >>12544214 >>12544239 >>12544354

>>12543477
>explain things in they're true nature.
>they're
...

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 16:45:53 No.12544214 Report

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>>12544213
and they say us niggers aint sum book readin folks

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 16:54:46 No.12544239 Report

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>>12544213
>Didn't even bother reading the first post of the thread, just got in to be picky about a typo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 17:36:06 No.12544349 Report

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>>12543477
agreed. technical language has its place, and its adoption can be made monumentally easier than forcing rote memorization of it followed by sucessive courses elaborating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 17:37:13 No.12544354 Report

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>>12544213
informal forum. editors exist for a reason. muh typo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 17:46:36 No.12544384 Report

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>>12543477
Pretty much. You can take any topic in modern mathematics and painstakingly figure out what the hell an author is trying to say in a paper or textbook, then realize that there is a more transparent and intuitive way to get that point across without having to inundate your reader with abstract nonsense.

Academics do this to make themselves sound smart at the expense of everyone else. They like to confuse their readers by overcomplicating their ideas with abstractions and convolutions where they don't need to exist, and readers make the mistake that what they are reading is deeper and more profound than it is, or that it will be once they figure out what the hell they are reading.

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