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Short Sleeping

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 03:37:29 2021 No.12542678 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12542696 >>12542728 >>12542729 >>12542752 >>12543043 >>12543110 >>12543138 >>12543282 >>12543291 >>12543293 >>12543357 >>12543785

How do I become a short sleeper? I'm trying to will myself to only sleep 2-3 hours a night.

>inb4 that's impossible
Tell that to the other successes of world history:
Napoleon Bonaparte (3 hours)
Margaret Thatcher (4)
Winston Churchill (5)
Bill Clinton (5)
Leonardo Da Vinci (5)
Madonna (4)
Silvio Berlusconi (2)
P Diddy (3)
Martha Stewart (2)
Nazi hamburger president (3)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 03:44:47 No.12542696 Report

Quoted By: >>12542713 >>12543278 >>12543318

>>12542678
Supposedly this comes down to genetics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 03:51:38 No.12542713 Report

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>>12542696
Yes but what can I do if my genes are shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 03:53:16 No.12542717 Report

Quoted By: >>12542736 >>12542753

It's not impossible and there are an entire class of people who run off no/very little sleep with little cognitive consequences, they're usually busy being upper management or execs for large companies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 03:58:11 No.12542728 Report

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>>12542678
short sleep is for brainlets and drones
geniuses are geniuses due to their subconscious intuition
the unconscious recalibrates the subconscious

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 03:59:19 No.12542729 Report

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>>12542678
That's what they all say.
I tried this and maybe I don't have the genetics, however I found I could maintain 4-5hours for about a month before sleep deprivation set in. Took weeks to catch up of sleeping 10 hours a night.
I suspect you can do 4-5hours nearly all week as long as you catch up on a day or two.
Perhaps some people don't know what sleep deprivation is

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 04:02:26 No.12542736 Report

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>>12542717
short sleep is a trait of those that are bold and active but lacking deep insight, perfect trait for CEOs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 04:03:19 No.12542738 Report

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>>12542713
No idea honestly, I'll watch this threat with interest. I can cut my sleep back and still function, but I start to feel run down. Eventually when I allow myself to sleep as long as I want, I'll go 12+ hours, which makes me think my body needs more sleep than I'm giving it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 04:07:17 No.12542752 Report

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>>12542678
What makes you think you'll put the extra waking hours to good use when you're squandering the time you've already got?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 04:07:31 No.12542753 Report

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>>12542717
You're an idiot if you think all CEOs work that hard.
Sure they do work hard but only a few work that much that they can't get normal sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 04:07:55 No.12542754 Report

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>>12542753
I want you to quote my post where I said what youre sayting I said, nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 06:29:45 No.12543043 Report

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>>12542678
In your list, only Napoléon and da Vinci are true elite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 06:32:04 No.12543050 Report

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the virgin slumberer vs the chad micro snoozer

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 06:57:03 No.12543097 Report

Quoted By: >>12543109

>>12542713
Nothing. End of story. Maybe in 40 years when human genetic engineering is advanced enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 07:01:50 No.12543109 Report

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>>12543097
Less than 40 years... We, right now, have a vaccine that force our cells to produce a part of a virus in order to immunize us.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 07:01:49 No.12543110 Report

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>>12542678
Gonna call BS on this
Yes, I heard of that gene that allows 2-3 hours of sleep without much concern. However, I refuse to believe that it has no drawbacks

Every gene has its flaws because it is designed for different environments. If such an overpowered gene actually exists, it "should" have become the dominant trait due to the fact that there's less danger when you are awake

But instead, it is the super rare gene and most people are shifting between normal or night owls to guard each other.
Thus, I believe that it is as good as people make it out to be

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 07:18:30 No.12543138 Report

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>>12542678
I have insomnia. Its not the same as needing less sleep. Im used to it so i get things done at night, i study and work on projects. I do a lot on weekends instead of sleeping late.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 08:08:29 No.12543252 Report

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I sleep around 10-12hrs a day, my bf sleeps ~4hrs. It's undeniably genetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 08:24:57 No.12543278 Report

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>>12542696
Cool, but that's not the deadend.
What mechanism do these genes function that make their phenotype need less sleep?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 08:26:46 No.12543282 Report

Quoted By: >>12543288

>>12542678
Naps.
You can supplement your sleep with naps.

Also, perhaps nootropics can help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 08:30:42 No.12543288 Report

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>>12543282
Cargo cultist freak

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Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 08:32:18 No.12543291 Report

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>>12542678
Take modafinil

https://www.gwern.net/Modafinil#

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 08:32:36 No.12543293 Report

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>>12542678
> nazi hamburger president
You are a woman't

Also stop trying to fixjwith your genetics. Let your body decide how much sleep it needs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 08:46:12 No.12543315 Report

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>>12543288
What do you mean, anon?
Nootropics are actual chemicals that cross the blood-brain barrier. There are plenty of studies for any of those chemicals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 08:47:18 No.12543318 Report

Quoted By: >>12545074

>>12542696
Then I lost the generic lottery. I would sleep 12 hours and also would nap if it wasn't for work. I'm tired all day and get little done. When I get home from work, I go to sleep. I don't have any hobbies, I don't play any games, don't read, don't listen to music and seldom socialize because of the tiredness. I am not depressed. Jeb Bush looks high energy compared to people like me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 09:05:57 No.12543357 Report

Quoted By: >>12543726

>>12542678
There is a single amino acid in your brain, either the clock or per proteins, that allows you to sleep 2x as efficiently and wake up in 6hr

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 12:44:24 No.12543726 Report

Quoted By: >>12543770

>>12543357
which one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 13:05:48 No.12543760 Report

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>>12543291
It's impossible on that kind of stimulant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 13:09:54 No.12543770 Report

Quoted By: >>12543884

>>12543726
fucking google it you limp dicked faggot am I your fucking babysitter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 13:16:15 No.12543785 Report

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>>12542678
I used to be a long sleeper. For me, it's simply motivation. If something captivates me I'll work on it for months on 3-5 hours sleep per night. My record is 53 hours without any sleep.

So I guess you need to find motivation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 13:26:42 No.12543803 Report

Quoted By: >>12543858 >>12544376

>>12543110
If you could count on good genes propagating throughout the population, people with an IQ high enough to be useful wouldn't be a minority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 13:42:57 No.12543858 Report

Quoted By: >>12543870

>>12543803
Or perhaps high IQ correlates with less fitness?
I wouldn't be surprised in higher IQ people generally turn into nihilistic degenerates
There's no rational reason to care about bettering civilization when you're dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 13:45:33 No.12543870 Report

Quoted By: >>12543875 >>12544414 >>12545042

>>12543858
higher IQ people are generally better at recuperating from losses and finding direction in life.
to say otherwise is just midwit cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 13:48:39 No.12543875 Report

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>>12543870
Prove it.
What's an objective basis for "finding a direction in life", and particularly a positive one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 13:51:39 No.12543884 Report

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>>12543770
I still don't know what i'm supposed to google since you haven't told me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 17:44:49 No.12544376 Report

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>>12543803
High IQ and mental illness are found to have a correlation
As such, high IQ cannot spread or dominate because a society with so much mentally ill cannot function properly.

Don't know about the flaws of a short-sleep gene

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 17:53:16 No.12544414 Report

Quoted By: >>12544464

>>12543870
This is false. Most of them are suffering from suicidal depression.
Depression does not make one smart
But being smart leads to isolation and depression

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 18:06:06 No.12544464 Report

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>>12544414
>being smart leads to isolation and depression
false
being a faggot leads to isolation and depression because faggotry is a sin according to Yahweh and Allah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 20:33:02 No.12544997 Report

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>/sci/ - Science & Math
>thread is full of anecdotal evidence

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 20:38:38 No.12545010 Report

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>>12542713
nothing, hope for a future gene therapy to upgrade your genes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 20:40:15 No.12545013 Report

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>>12542753
you are an idiot if you think that most CEO's and Elon Musk tier autists work less than 110 hours per week...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 20:50:57 No.12545042 Report

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>>12543870
what you’re saying is a dimwit cope. successful people are low IQ immoral extroverts because that’s what the world rewards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 21:03:51 No.12545074 Report

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>>12543318
You sure it isn't something in the environment?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Jan 2021 21:13:22 No.12545104 Report

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>>12542713
sleep normally

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