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What should I study if I want to understand the nature of time?

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 02:30:28 2020 No.12505029 View Reply Original Report

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I wanna understand the structures that govern the universe and space-time, what should I be studying? Maybe General Relativity and Topology? Quantum Mechanics? Philosophy?

I just wanna know the ultimate truth of our universe and why we are here and I think that by understanding time itself I can find an answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 02:31:47 No.12505032 Report

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>>12505029
save your time, nobody has any answer.

we are all going to die though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 02:33:48 No.12505038 Report

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>>12505032
Even if in the end I can't find an answer, I still wanna dedicate my life to trying to find it otherwise there would be no meaning in living for me anymore. I don't find pleasure in anything that is not the ultimate truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 02:35:54 No.12505041 Report

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>>12505029
A clock

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 02:43:48 No.12505053 Report

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>>12505038
The more you study, the more you'll question the existence of truth. You will get a perverted pleasure from the experience though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 02:45:33 No.12505056 Report

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>>12505053
Don't project yourself on me, I will never accept subjectivity as the actual truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 02:47:57 No.12505060 Report

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>>12505029
>bottom tier
Mathematics, religion, art
>low tier
Natural science, health science
>mid tier
Social science, cognitive science
>high tier
Philosophy, archaeology
>top tier
Physical education, physiology

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 02:48:39 No.12505061 Report

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>>12505029
There's either Oxford, Harvard, Cambridge book publishers.. one of them I forget which will bundle all the relevant papers on a subject and they have one for 'Time' something like 13 papers in the book (you can use library genesis).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 02:57:47 No.12505077 Report

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>>12505061
Oh, you mean the Cambridge/Oxford Companions? I read some on other subjects before, but I didn't know there was one for time. Great advice, thanks for reminding me of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 03:02:33 No.12505080 Report

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>>12505056
Why not. You mind is the fountain of truth.

Yes we are born with the belief of an external, objective, orderly world. But what if that is just your imagination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 03:05:45 No.12505083 Report

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>>12505029
Definitely start with relativity. (Make sure you have a good handle on special relativity before diving into GR)

You're still left with the Time's Arrow problem though. (All physics models except thermodynamics work just fine backwards or forwards, and noting that entropy always increases isn't actually explanatory)

After that, probably philosophy and cogsci to attack from the perception angle. Linguistics wouldn't hurt either, we operate with a ton of temporal assumptions embedded in the language.

Good luck timebro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 03:06:20 No.12505085 Report

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>>12505077
Yes that is exactly what I was thinking, I think it's the Cambridge companion to Time I sent it to somebody I know in prison once that asked for it.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 08:23:02 No.12505762 Report

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>>12505060
dude what
is this b8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 15:23:04 No.12506563 Report

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>>12505038
based, me too anon you are not alone,anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Dec 2020 20:12:57 No.12507282 Report

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>>12505029
the answer surely lies in the ultimate theory of quantum gravity. in GR time is a gauge transformation. but GR is not the ultimate theory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 04:21:17 No.12508480 Report

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>>12507282
What are the pre-requisites for studying quantum gravity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 04:32:00 No.12508493 Report

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You will never understand the nature of time, being an object within time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 12:16:29 No.12509432 Report

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>>12505029
You need to hear two smart sentances, you don't have to read 20 books because of it.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 13:11:13 No.12509498 Report

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>>12505029
Spirals.
In the matrix, the architect tells Neo that we are in the 6th version of The Matrix, which lines up with the 6th extinction entity in Death Stranding.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 13:34:38 No.12509536 Report

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>>12505029
Time doesn't exist, it has shown in T-symmetry we have the concept of """time""" because we have memory, but it really doesn't exist this is the failure on GR take an inexistent thing like a dimmension

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 16:03:21 No.12509898 Report

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>>12505029
Quantum gravity

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Dec 2020 19:11:51 No.12510400 Report

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>>12509536
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 00:44:41 No.12511477 Report

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>>12505029
GR is a good start for at least giving you a very different (but compatible) intuition about time. I would try to learn it from someone who presents it in a rigorously mathematical, yet philosophically inspired manner (as opposed to pop-science factoids, or engineering-style focus on equations)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 01:59:05 No.12511653 Report

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>>12510400
Broooooooo, trust me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 02:23:33 No.12511706 Report

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>>12511477
>who presents it in a rigorously mathematical, yet philosophically inspired manner
Got anyone in mind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 02:28:40 No.12511712 Report

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>>12511706
I like Frederic Schuller. He might have an online course on the subject in English.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 02:52:12 No.12511747 Report

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>>12505029
>I just wanna know the ultimate truth of our universe and why we are here
The theology department is down the hall. Science is about making incorrect models that are "good enough".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 15:41:46 No.12513459 Report

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>>12511747
Theology is about making models that you'll never be able to verify their veracity. I wanna concrete answers, not blind faith.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 15:46:48 No.12513482 Report

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>>12513459
then read Kant and understand your limitations

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 15:54:15 No.12513499 Report

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>>12505029
philosophy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 15:55:15 No.12513500 Report

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>>12505029
you should probably study time especially your biases about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 17:10:09 No.12513719 Report

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>>12505029
Kant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 17:14:42 No.12513732 Report

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>>12505038
>>12506563
the real world will hit you guys soon enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 18:18:03 No.12513889 Report

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>>12513732
Just because your motivation got destroyed by the hardships of the world, doesn't mean the same will happen to everyone. Like I said, don't project your own failures and shortcomings on other people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 27 Dec 2020 23:51:00 No.12514761 Report

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>>12513719
This then read Bergson to realize how Kant got lived time in itself confused with space

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