>>12497820>How can you say people have free willNobody says that except for literal mouth-breathers. "Free will" has been debunked long ago. Even Augustine noticed it didn't make any sense on theological grounds (God is omnipotent and omniscient, and Man is corrupted by original sin; where is the room for any "free will"?) and John Calvin followed through in that line of thought, which where the notion of the "Elect" comes from (you can't "become" an Elect, you are either born predestined to Heaven or predestined to Hell, and you can't change that). And of course "free will" doesn't make sense on logical and physical grounds as well.
The main challenge against free will is that whether or not determinism is true it's difficult to define "free will" in any satisfactory way. We either are clockwork (determinism) or a throw of dice (indeterminism): would you ascribe "free will" to a clock or to a die?
Threadly reminder:
https://www.pnas.org/content/107/10/4499#xref-ref-6-1 
