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Reminder that modern math is schizophrenic bullshit

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 11:51:40 2020 No.12491427 View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 11:57:03 No.12491438 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 12:00:19 No.12491443 Report

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>>12491427
His true genius was in demonstrating, in very simple terms, just what utter schizophrenic bullshit it really is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 12:16:02 No.12491472 Report

Quoted By: >>12491507 >>12493321 >>12493364 >>12494739

How could it be -1/12? It's obviously infinite lmao

Thales - harem king

Thales - harem king Mon 21 Dec 2020 12:16:52 No.12491473 Report

Quoted By: >>12494739

obviously sums to h.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 12:34:22 No.12491507 Report

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>>12491472
It's easy to confuse yourself with this shit but it's quite simple.

All that the ramanujan summation stuff, cutoff and zeta regularization does, is look at the smoothed curve at x = 0.
What sums usually do is look at the value as x->inf.

It's just a unique value you can assign to a sum, really they have many such values.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sum1234Summary.svg

$\displaystyle<br />\zeta \neq \Sigma<br />$

https://youtu.be/sD0NjbwqlYw?t=10m

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 12:42:38 No.12491524 Report

Quoted By: >>12491571 >>12494739

>if i manipulate a whole bunch of bullshit, i get a stupid answer
wow truly amazing mathematics

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 12:45:13 No.12491531 Report

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>>12491443
who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 12:51:23 No.12491541 Report

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>>12491427
Isn't that effect observed in real life with the casimir effect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 12:53:23 No.12491546 Report

Quoted By: >>12494739

stop doing math

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 13:07:08 No.12491571 Report

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>>12491524
>t. watched numberpedo, became math expert

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 13:50:04 No.12491663 Report

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>>12491427
>schizophrenic
Can you idiots please stop misusing that word. It refers to a specific psychiatric disorder. The word you mean to use is delusional. Use that word instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 13:51:46 No.12491665 Report

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>>12491663
low quality b8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 13:52:56 No.12491667 Report

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>>12491427
Holy shit something on this board I understand for once

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 13:53:13 No.12491668 Report

Quoted By: >>12492039 >>12494739

Reminder that no one claims the sum actually converges to -1/12.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 13:54:08 No.12491671 Report

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>>12491427
What do you mean finding the sum of an infinite sum of numbers isnt practical anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 14:01:35 No.12491689 Report

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>>12491663
>t. schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 14:20:54 No.12491735 Report

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>>12491427
Reminder that that statement is mathematically false

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 14:28:47 No.12491749 Report

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>>12491735
it's literally written in a textbook used by one of the retards in the numberphile video

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 14:29:27 No.12491751 Report

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>>12491663
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenic_number

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 14:34:49 No.12491766 Report

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>>12491427
>.999...9 = 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 15:47:32 No.12491993 Report

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>>12491427
It's always funny watching all these American adults get freaked out about stuff we learned as children in my country

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 16:00:25 No.12492021 Report

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>>12491766
the argument is that 0.999 never actaully ends, it just keeps going

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Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 16:00:50 No.12492024 Report

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Reminder that Ramanujan was dilating when he wrote down this gibberish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 16:02:13 No.12492028 Report

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>>12491507
>value you can assign to a sum
That bullshit drives me crazy. Why the fuck would you try and assign a value to an infinite divergent sum. Why would that even make sense. It is basically a mathematical photoshop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 16:02:23 No.12492030 Report

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>>12491663
Psychiatric disorders are spooks. You should stop using the opinion of some tard who worked ten years for a piece of paper as an excuse to be a lazy cunt who refuses to change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 16:03:19 No.12492031 Report

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>>12491571
>t. pretends to possess the deepest secrets of the universe
you've been lied to, anon. -1/12 is bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 16:04:52 No.12492039 Report

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>>12491668
then why do you make up your own rules and assign some random bullshit number to it. just call it a divergent series and leave it at that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 16:05:53 No.12492043 Report

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>>12491993
funny how you are too embarrassed of your nationality you call it "my country" lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 16:18:01 No.12492078 Report

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>>12491427
This series does not converge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 16:57:04 No.12492195 Report

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>>12492031
actually -1/12 is a rational number

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 17:05:35 No.12492224 Report

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>>12492039
it's not random

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 21:56:13 No.12493261 Report

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>>12492028
What is a "diverging sum" not given the context where someone tried to assign a value to an infinite sum in the first place.
One is not more makeup than the other - it's just math

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 21:59:34 No.12493268 Report

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>>12491766
.999...9 = 1 - ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 22:16:00 No.12493312 Report

Quoted By: >>12494739

Riemann series theorem or in general Levy-Steinitz theorem. Come on guys, this is first semester stuff...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 22:19:26 No.12493321 Report

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>>12491472
Because you are being trolled and there is a missing infinity in the RHS statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 22:36:47 No.12493364 Report

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>>12491472
"obviously"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 22:42:25 No.12493380 Report

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>>12492043
if he'd said where he came from the mutt would have probably assumed it was a fictional country

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 23:35:17 No.12493574 Report

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>>12491531
One of the aliens from Rama. Sadly he passed away late last century.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 23:38:00 No.12493586 Report

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>>12491531
That Indian guy, Srinivasa Ramanujan.
It was the ultimate mathematical troll. Basically he said, "Look, your entire mathematical system is complete bullshit, look, here, the sum of all these positive numbers is -1/12, which is obviously fucked up, but none of you dullards can prove me wrong! You fucking idiots."

Firstly he was a genius for simply demonstrating that. Secondly he was a genius for knowing how the parrots would lap it up. Thirdly he was a genius for maintaining a straight face throughout the whole farce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 23:49:51 No.12493630 Report

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>>12491427
Someone isn't doing good in calc ii... shit was easy as hell to prove lmao. Of course it makes sense dummy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Dec 2020 23:51:39 No.12493634 Report

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>>12493586
none of this is the case

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 00:04:29 No.12493679 Report

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>>12493634
Seethe more schizo, its true and you are too stupid to see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 00:09:33 No.12493702 Report

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>>12493321
>there is a missing infinity in the RHS statement.
coping this hard lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 00:28:02 No.12493768 Report

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>>12492028
It has physical equivalents.
It's used in QFT the precision with experiment that is obtained from the calculations that use these "tricks" go up to 14 decimal places. It's fucking magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 00:39:18 No.12493817 Report

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>>12493768
explain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 00:44:21 No.12493829 Report

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>>12493817
Google "quantum field theory asymptotics divergent series"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 02:08:23 No.12494030 Report

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>>12492024
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 02:17:06 No.12494055 Report

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>>12493702
prove him wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 02:18:16 No.12494058 Report

Quoted By: >>12494739

In what class will I learn how to rigorously sum infinite series? I took a year of calc, and I'm not convinced by all the hand-waving

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 04:55:33 No.12494461 Report

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>>12491427
Look I love math and all but this doesn't make sense, but I guess in the Math world full of crazies it would make sense that n to infinity would be a negative number.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 04:58:35 No.12494466 Report

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>>12491541
Yes, but none of these idiots know what this post means

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 07:30:59 No.12494724 Report

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>>12493586
sounds pretty based to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 07:37:20 No.12494731 Report

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>>12493768
>Unbounded integers exist in the real world
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 07:39:21 No.12494738 Report

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>>12491507
So why don't they write a lim n->0 or something in the left? The statement, as given, is clearly asserting the equality of the entire sum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 07:39:32 No.12494739 Report

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https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1327812

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 07:49:19 No.12494753 Report

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>>12492028
>Why the fuck would you try to use a square root of -1
>Why the fuck would you try to sum an infinite series
>Why the fuck would you try to multiply a number by itself negative times
>>12492039
Everyone knows it's divergent. The point is that you can do more.
Just like you can do more with nonconstant polynomials lacking real roots than throw up your hands and say there's no solution. Just like you can do more at Galileo's paradox than throw up your hands and say there's no solution. Etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 08:00:22 No.12494771 Report

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>>12494738
>they
because they are idiots

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 08:55:58 No.12494893 Report

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>>12494771
t. idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 09:22:41 No.12494944 Report

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>>12491427
I watched the numberphile episode this is true

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 13:02:14 No.12495316 Report

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>>12494466
explain to a brainlet what you're on about

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 18:16:45 No.12496003 Report

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>>12491663
it's just a catch-all designation that simplifies communication on this website, like how "autism" stands for social incompetence, character pecularities and retardation all at once (actually this one bothers me, but maybe that's just my autism, lol)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 19:56:41 No.12496388 Report

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>>12494753
>Everyone knows it's divergent. The point is that you can do more.
this
calling a sum "convergent" or "divergent" is just placating the monkeys intuition, has nothing to do with math

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 23:27:18 No.12497281 Report

Quoted By: >>12498140

>>12494738
Who do you think made the image in the OP?
Look, I can produce a bullshit equation with TeX as well:
$1 + 3 = 5$
Writing it down doesn't suddenly make it true. You will never see an equation of OP's image printed in any professional, peer-reviewed, legitimately published mathematics paper. (Though physicists and the like who are very imprecise with their mathematical statements may write down such statements; they are not proper practicing mathematicians and just because they know some advanced mathematical results, they should not be confused as such.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Dec 2020 23:31:55 No.12497303 Report

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Do you see how annoying this is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Dec 2020 04:49:44 No.12498140 Report

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>>12497281
>You will never see an equation of OP's image printed in any professional, peer-reviewed, legitimately published mathematics paper.
https://webusers.imj-prg.fr/~ricardo.perez-marco/publications/articles/CMP2008.pdf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Dec 2020 10:21:21 No.12498716 Report

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lol no u just retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Dec 2020 12:03:48 No.12498868 Report

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>>12491766
nop, it missing 0.000...1
but 0.999...=1

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Dec 2020 12:31:16 No.12498907 Report

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>>12493829
Give me an example nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Dec 2020 16:08:38 No.12499351 Report

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>>12492039
>then why do you make up your own rules and assign some random bullshit number to it. just call it a divergent series and leave it at that.
what's the point of doing anything new in math? why not just leave it at that.

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