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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 00:46:48 2020 No.12458430 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12458482 >>12458859 >>12459053 >>12461336 >>12461661

Came across this picture on /v/

So what is /sci/ verdict on this subject?

These guys look very similar to each other imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 00:48:58 No.12458435 Report

Quoted By: >>12458439

Masculine features are correlated with high testosterone
High testosterone is correlated with antisocial behavior

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 00:50:23 No.12458439 Report

Quoted By: >>12458444 >>12458479 >>12461134 >>12461507 >>12462511

>>12458435

Any correlation between high testosterone and low intelligence?

given that

>High testosterone is correlated with antisocial behavior

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 00:51:43 No.12458444 Report

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>>12458439
Yes, easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 00:54:50 No.12458454 Report

Quoted By: >>12458466 >>12462511

>>12458444

Interesting.

So how does OP subject work?

Does the face morph into a certain "criminal phenotype" because of the environment (prison argument) or does high test people find themselves drawn to criminal activity?

or maybe both?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 00:56:59 No.12458466 Report

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>>12458454
I think it's more nature than anything with high test. I think people who look like that happen to look like that because of the same reason they're criminals

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 00:57:47 No.12458470 Report

Quoted By: >>12458485 >>12458750 >>12459038 >>12459168 >>12461047

>>12458444
how on earth did china get 105 IQ score?

Are there really enough smart people there to offset the hordes of soulless low IQ bugmen on the streets?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 00:59:22 No.12458479 Report

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>>12458444
>>12458439
no it doesn't

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:00:25 No.12458482 Report

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>>12458430
At first I thought it was interesting cause their faces don't look terribly developed, usually the criminals look malformed but they look fine, then I saw they were only arrested for selling avocados. That's probably why, they're not really "criminals".

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:00:34 No.12458483 Report

Quoted By: >>12458528

>>12458444

>Most individuals with Down syndrome have mild (IQ: 50–69) intellectual disability.

> looks at africa

No way that is real, bogus chart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:00:55 No.12458485 Report

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>>12458470
there are issues with chinese test methodology, it is better to use countries like japan, korea or taiwan, since their numbers can actually be trusted

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:01:36 No.12458488 Report

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>>12458482

kek

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:03:34 No.12458498 Report

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>>12458444
>Ireland 92
sketchy data

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:12:00 No.12458528 Report

Quoted By: >>12458532 >>12459041

>>12458483
The people in Africa are just uneducated, if they were really that low IQ they would be functionally retarded.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 01:13:08 No.12458532 Report

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>>12458528
they aren't abo tier at least

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 02:41:51 No.12458750 Report

Quoted By: >>12461047

>>12458470
China doesn't report IQ tests that haven't been taken by their equivalent of Ivy League schools

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 03:19:37 No.12458859 Report

Quoted By: >>12459009 >>12461882

>>12458430
wtf how do you illegally sell avocados?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:07:55 No.12459004 Report

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>>12458444

now post their T levels.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:11:09 No.12459009 Report

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>>12458859
Ones from Mexico probably that aren’t cleared by customs

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:29:59 No.12459038 Report

Quoted By: >>12459188 >>12461047

>>12458470
In china there are student riots when they crack down on cheating. China has a "succeed at all costs" ideology

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:31:01 No.12459041 Report

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>>12458528
They are functionally retarded.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 04:36:07 No.12459053 Report

Quoted By: >>12460045 >>12461470 >>12462083

>>12458430
My verdict:

Fuck off and go back to /pol/

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 05:26:45 No.12459168 Report

Quoted By: >>12461047 >>12461658

>>12458470
They only test their metropolitan cities. On top of that, schoolinf system there is competitive so higher performer get to goto city schools. This skews the results.

That's not to say kids there aren't smart, they are. Due to shiton of them being born, they have a huge chunk of high iq concentration in cities.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 05:35:12 No.12459188 Report

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>>12459038
It is braindead because that success isn't even success, but maybe they see through the thin facade of self-perpetuating education institutions. Cheating could be considered an act of protest.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 13:05:12 No.12460037 Report

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>>12458444
>Mongolia 101
>Germany 99

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 13:10:14 No.12460045 Report

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>>12459053
You're a gigantic retard if you treat science as political. The worst this thread does is create discussion you can't have anywhere else. I'd rather have ten thousand threads like OP's than have to watch what is said. You're an idiot.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 18:26:22 No.12461047 Report

Quoted By: >>12461071 >>12466100

>>12458470
>>12458485
>>12458750
>>12459038
>>12459168
So much cope ITT
No shit test centers are in city centers, that isn't unique to China. If you're gonna say China's IQ scores are artificially increased because they only test in developed cities, then you could say the same about every other country on this map, so it's a moot point.
It's also telling that China's scores are pretty in line with those of countries most genetically similar to them (Mongolia, NK, SK, Japan, Taiwan). So if you're gonna claim that China's scores are pumped up, you'd have to either also claim that a) the Chinese are very genetically distant from other East Asians or b) there exists a similar cheating epidemic, to approximately the same degree, in all of those other East Asian countries.
I'm an American, but I've been to China many times, and I could easily see their average IQ being around 105.
>inb4 chink shill

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 18:32:58 No.12461071 Report

Quoted By: >>12461143 >>12461146

>>12461047
How the fuck can you tell the difference between a 100 average IQ and 105 average IQ?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 18:50:26 No.12461134 Report

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>>12458439
Antisocial!=low intelligence

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 18:52:27 No.12461143 Report

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>>12461071
No one can. I have been saying for years IQ tests are tools to screen out retards. Results should be: Tard, not tard

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 18:52:42 No.12461146 Report

Quoted By: >>12461422 >>12462182

>>12461071
I guess I can't say for sure. My job has me travelling to smaller cities in China a lot, so I feel like I interact with a pretty diverse range of people. The people there are definitely not the mindless zombies that /pol/ would have you believe they are.
I guess my post isn't to claim that the Chinese are smarter than us, because I don't know if that's true. I'm just tired of delusional Amerilards flooding this site with cope posts about how China's gonna collapse any day now. I think that's part of the reason America is going to shit desu

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 19:41:11 No.12461336 Report

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>>12458430
You need a government issued 10000$ a year license to sell avocados in California now.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 20:07:58 No.12461422 Report

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>>12461146
Of course they're not all mindless zombies. You could even go to Africa and that wouldn't be the case. Despite them all being technically retarded for one reason or another. I find it hard to believe that certain people are willing to try very hard on an IQ test or even care about what it is.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 20:19:30 No.12461443 Report

Quoted By: >>12461617

>>12459041
They are just not used to the geometrical questions these tests have. I have met blue collar people that cant calculate the area of a rectangle, they simply never took a single elementary school geometry lesson

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 20:30:03 No.12461470 Report

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>>12459053
If /pol/ wants to come here and discuss science in good faith that is fine. Fuck off you dogmatic retard.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 20:44:08 No.12461507 Report

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>>12458439
>>12458444
blacks have a much higher estrogen level compared to other ethnic grous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:15:14 No.12461617 Report

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>>12461443
since when has raven's progressive matrices required you to calculate area?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:30:42 No.12461658 Report

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>>12459168
This and the IQ tests are also just computerised unsupervised tests given in hospitals which is not how you normally administer a proper IQ test

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 21:31:13 No.12461661 Report

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>>12458430
>anecdotal evidence
yawn

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Anonymous Sun 13 Dec 2020 22:40:59 No.12461882 Report

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>>12458859
I feel like if we told you that you'd become ancap, so let's not.

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Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 00:06:37 No.12462083 Report

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>>12459053

Unironically, kill yourself today my friend.

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Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 00:49:35 No.12462182 Report

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>>12461146
>I'm just tired of delusional Amerilards flooding this site with cope posts about how China's gonna collapse any day now
Some of the most nationalistic chinese citizens I've known have said exactly that. some chinese esoteric types see it as fate for china to grow, become rich as fuck with a massive population, collapse in some of the bloodiest wars imaginable, and repeat. forever. If anything normie americans are the types to believe in endless unmitigated progress for the developing world. literally only hear what you're saying from the chinese themselves, and 4chan nobodies

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Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 02:35:56 No.12462511 Report

Quoted By: >>12462517 >>12463043

>>12458439
>>12458454
stop

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Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 02:38:15 No.12462517 Report

Quoted By: >>12462555 >>12462677

>>12462511
It's for clarity you sperg. I'm neither of these people and have never used reddit and still do it to clarify what is a new thought.

Faggot

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Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 02:45:50 No.12462555 Report

Quoted By: >>12464171

>>12462517
>Faggot
Why the homophobia?

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Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 03:26:00 No.12462677 Report

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>>12462517
>Faggot
why the fascist pretensions?

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Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 06:12:23 No.12463043 Report

Quoted By: >>12464194

>>12462511
if you complain about "reddit spacing" your IQ is automatically sub 90

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Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 14:27:20 No.12464171 Report

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>>12462555
To make bitches like you cry.

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Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 14:37:42 No.12464194 Report

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>>12463043
cope

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Anonymous Mon 14 Dec 2020 23:54:29 No.12466017 Report

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>>12458444
How many times do we have to debunk that map?? It is full of obvious inconsistencies.

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Anonymous Tue 15 Dec 2020 00:13:53 No.12466100 Report

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>>12461047
you forgot about the fact that black males have lower testosterone on average than white males.

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