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Can mathematics prove God?

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 22:34:01 2020 No.12450023 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12450036 >>12450041 >>12452258 >>12452263 >>12452319 >>12454340

Can you use mathematics to prove God?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:36:06 No.12450036 Report

Quoted By: >>12450439 >>12452181

>>12450023
No, but you can use real numbers to play God.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:36:54 No.12450041 Report

Quoted By: >>12450070

>>12450023
Define God through set theory and we'll see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:39:30 No.12450052 Report

Quoted By: >>12450061 >>12450288

If you don't have faith in god, you probably don't have much faith in math.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:41:57 No.12450061 Report

Quoted By: >>12450070

>>12450052
Believing in modern math requires much more faith than believing in god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:44:30 No.12450070 Report

Quoted By: >>12450101

>>12450041
>set theory
deboonked. more like cope theory.
ZFCucks btfo
>>12450061
kek based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:47:25 No.12450083 Report

Quoted By: >>12450123

Is there anything true to the virgin atheist physicist vs. the chad religious mathematician meme?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:52:31 No.12450101 Report

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>>12450070
>cope theory
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:57:28 No.12450123 Report

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>>12450083
Mathematicians enjoy life by giving things meaning through the light of god.
Phycucks are schizo retards that live in their own ignorant dogmatism.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:57:36 No.12450124 Report

Quoted By: >>12450272

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:27:24 No.12450272 Report

Quoted By: >>12450381 >>12452204 >>12452282

>>12450124
Can anyone here explain what's going in this image? Sorry for being a brainlet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:30:31 No.12450288 Report

Quoted By: >>12450294

>>12450052
Interesting article by Ed Nelson on this topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGe9rcDfAt0
>It is curious that mathematicians confronting the depths of our subject often fall into the language of faith. Kronecker wrote, \God made the numbers, all else is the work of Man." Once when I expressed my skepticism about the consistency of mathematics to my thesis adviser, the late Irving Segal, he asked, \But you believe in the natural numbers, don’t you?"

>I must relate how I lost my faith in Pythagorean numbers. One morning at the 1976 Summer Meeting of the American Mathematical Society in Toronto, I woke early. As I lay meditating about numbers, I felt the momentary overwhelming presence of one who convicted me of arrogance for my belief in the real existence of an infinite world of numbers, leaving me like an infant in a crib reduced to counting on my fingers. Now I live in a world in which there are no numbers save those that human beings on occasion construct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:31:33 No.12450294 Report

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>>12450288
Sorry wrong link
https://web.math.princeton.edu/~nelson/papers/faith.pdf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:52:25 No.12450381 Report

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>>12450272
It's Gödel's modal ontological proof. Not convinced it actually works but it's still interesting to look into

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 00:05:30 No.12450439 Report

Quoted By: >>12450578

>>12450036
Average rick and morty fan

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 00:36:01 No.12450578 Report

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>>12450439
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 05:28:21 No.12451557 Report

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Can you use mathematics to prove Truth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 11:17:56 No.12452181 Report

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>>12450036
God speaks to me through random numbers. You have no choice if... LISTEN! Listen you nigger. You have no choice if god talks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 11:20:31 No.12452183 Report

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https://urbigenous.net/library/nine_billion_names_of_god.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 11:35:10 No.12452204 Report

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>>12450272
It's defining perfection and godlikeness as having all perfections, then inferring from the possibility of a god to the impossibility of it's nonexistence.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 12:05:47 No.12452258 Report

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>>12450023
God's the ontological bedrock mathematics exists on. For mathematical statements to be absolutely true they can't depend on anything physical or impermanent and they have to have meaning which they can only get from a mind. Eternal nonphysical mind is aka God.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 12:08:01 No.12452263 Report

Quoted By: >>12452324

>>12450023
yes

https://esotericawakening.com/what-is-reality-the-holofractal-universe

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Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 12:16:56 No.12452282 Report

Quoted By: >>12452485

>>12450272
there is a square that is god

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 12:35:48 No.12452319 Report

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>>12450023
Perhaps, but if you desire proof you already made yourself unworthy. The idea is to believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 12:36:54 No.12452324 Report

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>>12452263
>/threading your own post
Cringe.
>esoteric awakening
kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 13:39:00 No.12452485 Report

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>>12452282
>Square

Circle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 20:58:59 No.12454340 Report

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>>12450023
Not your specific jew god.

El Arcón

El Arcón Fri 11 Dec 2020 21:13:24 No.12454395 Report

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You can use mathematics to develop the principles of electronic time travel, and then by the existence of time travel God necessarily follows as a consequence

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