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Next Taleb book will debunk the IQ pseudoscience once and for all

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 09:30:29 2020 No.12447041 View Reply Original Report

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Prepare to say good-bye to your garbage garbage IQ threads and other racist shit. Also fuck Charles Murray and similar charlatans that feed you racist pricks.

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1336961470840582145

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 09:32:14 No.12447047 Report

Quoted By: >>12449670 >>12450667

>>12447041
Based. "IQ" is just a measure of conscientiousness

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 09:32:53 No.12447048 Report

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>>12447041
Maybe one day Charles Murray will realize arabs are white.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 09:37:06 No.12447058 Report

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>>12447048
Prof Taleb is not Arab, he is ethnically Antiochian Greek.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 09:38:02 No.12447060 Report

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>>12447058

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 10:37:53 No.12447223 Report

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>>12447041
And why am I supposed to take this from some swarthy Italian?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 10:49:29 No.12447250 Report

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>>12447223
He is my father

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 10:51:41 No.12447255 Report

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>>12447041
Dunno who that is, but it’s a fact that different races have different average IQs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 10:53:45 No.12447264 Report

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>>12447255
That is unfortunate but its a irrelevant and distracting from the actual argument. In other words, its a logical fallacy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 10:56:35 No.12447272 Report

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>>12447250
You are Albanian. How have you discovered the computer, let alone the internet? Did you manage to loot technology from the last caravan you raided?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 11:05:37 No.12447310 Report

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>>12447264
I was never involved in any argument, so there is no fallacy. Kys pseudointellectual

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 11:10:06 No.12447327 Report

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>>12447255
Hes my father

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 11:30:11 No.12447391 Report

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Some races are mentally inferior than other races. Some races are physically inferior than other races. Some races could be considered superior. Taleb is pure cope.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 12:20:27 No.12447550 Report

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https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 12:22:36 No.12447560 Report

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>>12447041
what's his explanation for niggers?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 12:28:48 No.12447583 Report

Quoted By: >>12447725 >>12448635 >>12450107 >>12452190

Imagine being brainwashed by the racist bullshit of people like Charles Murray or Stefan Molyneux. Fortunately, Taleb reads the BS his enemies write. I bet none of the idiots who like to post the cover of that garbage book on IQ have actually read it or are even aware of the endless mistakes it has.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 12:29:54 No.12447589 Report

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 13:30:30 No.12447725 Report

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>>12447583
Yawn

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 13:40:34 No.12447747 Report

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>>12447725
I bet that's what Stefan said after YouTube and Twitter banned him for posting white-supremacist pseudoscience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 13:51:43 No.12447784 Report

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>>12447264
>muh fallacy
lmao that has nothing to do with logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 13:53:28 No.12447789 Report

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>>12447550
A lot of that image of pure bullshit
eg.: the EEF developed agriculture and urbanization independently from ME populations and in fact they were more efficient than those circa the 7th millenium BC. The Cucuteni-Tripyllia culture had settlements larger than those present anywhere else in the world at the time.
t. /his/

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 13:53:39 No.12447791 Report

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Fuck off, pseudo-intellectual shill.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 13:57:16 No.12447798 Report

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>>12447041
>based science

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 15:07:54 No.12447979 Report

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>>12447784
>>12447310
You're trying to mislead us again with statements that have nothing to do with the argument at hand

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 15:44:26 No.12448090 Report

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>>12447041
I am convinced Taled is fully aware of the legitimacy of psychometric tests and IQ testing's predictive power but is claiming it's bullshit to stop the lefties destroying him

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 15:45:36 No.12448095 Report

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>>12447550
That image is really dumb

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 15:45:52 No.12448096 Report

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>>12447041
fuck off science denier. shove your anti science drivel up your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 15:46:48 No.12448100 Report

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>>12447747
crime statistics and divorce rates are pseudoscience?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 15:59:09 No.12448151 Report

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>>12447060
Surprised Belgium is at 23%, they're not even a real country.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 16:02:26 No.12448166 Report

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>EVERY PERSON, EVERY RACE, EVERYONE HAS THE SAME IQ
>STOP ASKING QUESTIONS

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 16:08:28 No.12448186 Report

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https://www.jsmp.dk/posts/2019-06-16-talebiq/

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 16:09:01 No.12448189 Report

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>>12448090
Why would he hate his own country?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 17:20:45 No.12448421 Report

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>>12448151
>Surprised Belgium is at 23%, they're not even a real country.
Ridiculous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 17:28:08 No.12448448 Report

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>>12448186
>For example, Bill Gates and Paul Allen scores 1590/1600 on their SATs, which for SATs at that time meant extremely high IQs. Since Bill Gates is also in the tail of wealth and income, this indicates that the overall impact of people in the tails is to accentuate rather than diminish the importance of IQ.
This is the most retarded "statistical" analysis I've ever read. Literally n=1

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 17:28:53 No.12448452 Report

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>>12448189
What?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 17:30:00 No.12448459 Report

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>>12448448
Bill Gates got where he is through an awful lot of nepotism

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 17:40:54 No.12448501 Report

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>>12447041
Is that the guy who throws a tantrum on Twitter when anyone offers critiques?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 17:44:24 No.12448520 Report

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>>12448448
This is about the level expected of psychometric """""research""""".

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 17:49:27 No.12448547 Report

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>>12447058
He's an arab.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 18:00:50 No.12448606 Report

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>>12448459
Yeah, it's not like he created anything new...

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 18:01:55 No.12448616 Report

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>>12447041
*Yawn*

When are people simply going to publicly acknowledge that niggers are dumb. All these mental gymnastics to avoid facing a truth which is so obvious is getting tiring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 18:05:51 No.12448635 Report

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>>12447583
I didn't even know who Molyneux was until some dumbass linked me a three hour rant video on why conservatives were "wolves" and liberals were "rabbits" using r and k typologies as his reasoning. There was like 10 different completely untrue statements in the first 5 minutes, it was wild.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 18:06:06 No.12448637 Report

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>>12448606
His dad was something to do with Starbucks, and big chemical and all this vegan non foods they're pushing now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 18:09:31 No.12448656 Report

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>>12447041
blacks are still seething after they got called low IQ for being homophobic so now they're backpedalling to avoid the shame

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 20:56:42 No.12449486 Report

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>>12448452
Lebanon has 80 something iq so if iq is real then his country is dumb

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 21:25:49 No.12449670 Report

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>>12447047
based retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 21:27:40 No.12449686 Report

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>>12449486
Taleb is a Lebanese Christian they are generally a higher IQ group. the muslims are usually a lot lower.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 21:48:55 No.12449828 Report

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>>12447041
another thesis with positivst sophistry pulled straight out of the ass?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 21:51:16 No.12449842 Report

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>>12449686
That is unfortunate but its irrelevant and distracting from the actual argument. In other words, its a logical fallacy called a red herring.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 21:52:17 No.12449844 Report

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>>12449842
Just like most of Taleb's arguments.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 21:53:30 No.12449849 Report

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>>12449844
No

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 21:56:16 No.12449863 Report

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>>12449849
yes?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 21:57:02 No.12449867 Report

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>>12449863
You're attacking taleb not his argument. Appeal to authority doesn't work because he's an authority on math stuff

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:00:30 No.12449876 Report

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>>12449867
if he's such a maths expert why did he somehow fail to understand the IQ data he was looking at?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:18:07 No.12449950 Report

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>>12449876
Strawman fallacy. You're assuming that I believe he failed to understand the data he was looking at.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:34:52 No.12450028 Report

Quoted By: >>12450217

Taleb is a sweet summer child. It's almost commendable he's still fighting psychometrics, almost. Nevertheless the field has undergone scrutiny for the past 100 years and survived all of it, in fact we now know IQ tests have even more correlates than what we originally believed, everything from mortality to spending behavior. Psychometrics is more rigorous of a field than many other sciences even, and it's certainly more rigorous than the sham that is sociology.

He's not going to refute it.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:40:10 No.12450056 Report

Quoted By: >>12450219

>>12449950
Oh no I believe he understood the data, I believe he was intentionally deceptive in misrepresenting the data

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:45:39 No.12450077 Report

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>>12447550
ok

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:48:51 No.12450088 Report

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Imagine coping so hard you scored low on an internet IQ test that you write a whole book about it lmao

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:50:48 No.12450094 Report

Quoted By: >>12450149

>>12449486
If IQ is real then we are all dumb compared to Japanese and koreans

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:51:37 No.12450098 Report

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>>12448090
Are you retarded? His whole MO is not giving a fuck about what people say. He has openly asked to be cancelled and even defended Pinker who he cucked when he was being cancelled.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 22:53:40 No.12450107 Report

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>>12447583
I looked up some of the names, and they were Europeans.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:01:35 No.12450149 Report

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>>12450094
Yeah and thats completely wrong. We know Japanese and koreans aren't that smart

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:16:26 No.12450217 Report

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>>12450028
There's no way you believe the bullshit you're drivelling in this post. Psychometrics as a field has not "undergone scrutiny for the past 100 years and survived all of it", its been shielded vigorously by the discipline of Psychology because it is the only thing standing in the way it being relegated to a pseudoscience given the immense reproducibility crisis the wider field is suffering from. Psychometrics and IQ were not attempts by psychologists to understand intelligence, they were attempts to inject legitimacy to a field by artificially introducing objective elements that the scientific method could then be used to measure and understand. Its not science its scientism. The scientific method was adopted by the hard sciences because it worked. They built the best tool to fit the problem. Meanwhile the "soft" sciences build the problems that best fit the tool. Its cargo cult.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:17:02 No.12450219 Report

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>>12450056
No U

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:18:03 No.12450229 Report

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>>12450077
Why since 14th century?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:20:16 No.12450246 Report

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>>12450229
If I recall correctly it's because it dwarfss everything before it in quantity

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:27:07 No.12450271 Report

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>>12450246
That's completely arbitrary and basically, cherrypicked.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:30:26 No.12450287 Report

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>>12450271
read Murrray's Human Accomplishment then

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Anonymous Thu 10 Dec 2020 23:40:45 No.12450338 Report

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>>12450217
psychometrics is used extensively in marketing. its a real science and it has undergone rigor and lots of thought, not matter how much you seethe about it.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 00:24:21 No.12450521 Report

Quoted By: >>12450530

>>12447041
Holy fuck he's butthurt that his muzzie friends are low IQ beyond belief.
>>12447058
He's Arabic AND autistic.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 00:25:37 No.12450530 Report

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>>12450521
He's Greek orthodoox christian.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 00:28:46 No.12450551 Report

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>>12447589
Sort of pedantic since European civilization is the successor of ancient Middle Eastern civilization. Also what is "Western"?

El Arcón

El Arcón Fri 11 Dec 2020 00:30:07 No.12450554 Report

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Nice title.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 00:38:11 No.12450588 Report

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>>12450229
The fall and ransacking of Constantinople (previously the wealthiest and grandest city West of China) pushed the intellectual hub of the Western world West to Western Europe. Follow that by the renaissance, the age of discovery and industrialization and there's your 500-ish years of Western European global dominance. Sad it's coming to an end now though thanks to Jews and women voting.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 00:51:09 No.12450667 Report

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>>12447047
Except IQ is slightly negatively correlated with conscientiousness wetard

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 01:21:50 No.12450820 Report

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>>12448616
this

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 01:44:22 No.12450885 Report

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>>12450077
coincidentally this map coincides with the parts of Europe where inbreeding was made illegal

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 01:52:21 No.12450906 Report

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>>12447060
>Greece

LOL, stupid faggots can't even pay their taxes like normal human beings, if it wasn't for the rest of Europe it would literally be a Libya-tier failed state by now

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 01:56:46 No.12450925 Report

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>>12450906
>d faggot
Why the homophoba?

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 01:57:58 No.12450931 Report

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>>12450925
umad bro? Fuck your globohomo shit, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE, WE WANT REAL HUMAN FREEDOM

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 02:08:55 No.12450970 Report

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>>12450931
>FREEDOM
Why the commiephobia?

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 03:09:47 No.12451155 Report

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>>12450271
Holy retard batman.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 05:11:08 No.12451503 Report

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>>12447264
reddit

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 05:30:38 No.12451566 Report

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BASED
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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 06:01:07 No.12451631 Report

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>>12450338
>He's fucking example is marketing
Lmao

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 06:02:37 No.12451634 Report

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>>12447060
How are Norway and Sweden so different?

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 06:23:14 No.12451660 Report

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>>12450338
LMAO marketing anon? Really? This is beyond pathetic. You’ve just made my point retard >>12450217. Psychometrics is pseudoscientific bullshit.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 08:02:29 No.12451864 Report

Quoted By: >>12452399

>>12450271
No, everything that happened before the 14th century is dwarfed by everything that happened after.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 11:21:59 No.12452187 Report

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>>12447041
I would prefer if we just got rid of the n*ggers and trannies instead desu senpai

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 11:24:58 No.12452190 Report

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>>12447583
imagine being so stupid you can't figure out n*ggers are dumb just by observation alone. ngmi you are retarded boyo

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 11:28:34 No.12452196 Report

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>>12448635
Molymeme could kill you with his bare hands pencil neck

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 12:11:30 No.12452272 Report

Quoted By: >>12452420

>>12447041
I don't blame you OP. You need to be high IQ to understand that IQ is one of the most valuable human prediction tools available, so it's only normal that you don't understand it.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 12:52:03 No.12452366 Report

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>>12451634
Norway has oil also and this may have absolutely no relevance at all but during ww2 many many Jews fled to sweden

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 13:02:13 No.12452399 Report

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>>12451864
Completely arbitrary. One might as well say there is far more development distance between the stone age and the 14th century than from the 14th century to now.
Animal analogy: It takes more to go from bacteria to mice than from mice to human.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 13:14:25 No.12452420 Report

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>>12452272
Its only valuable to you because it forwards your pol ideology

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 17:14:21 No.12453328 Report

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>>12452420
yeah okay nigger-lover

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 17:28:39 No.12453384 Report

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>>12447041

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:16:03 No.12453663 Report

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>>12447041
I tell you what mate. We can make two teams chosen at random from people off the streets except for one thing. Half are high IQ and half are low IQ and have a survival competition like The Colony. I will take all the high IQ people and you get all the low IQ people and we will keep the competition until everyone on one team is dead. Who do you think will win?

Please get all the other idiots who don't "believe" in IQ to play this game so we can get rid of all you idiots with a single solution

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:18:03 No.12453671 Report

Quoted By: >>12453755

>>12453663
The low IQ team will win half the time.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:20:21 No.12453681 Report

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>>12447060
once again portugal>spain

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Anonymous Fri 11 Dec 2020 18:42:27 No.12453755 Report

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>>12453671
low iq answer

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